North Korea conducts 'successful' hydrogen bomb test

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Is that sarcasm?

There are plenty of people here who worship their dear socialist leader hero as we sink trillions of dollars deeper into debt to pay for similar bull# while many Americans are starving or close to it.

originally posted by: Glinda
. Kim doesn't have to aim at the US to start WWIII.

WW3 wouldn't start if NK was erased. I hate saying that, but it's true.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: spy66
If you say so.

H bomb or a nuklear detonation.

Kinda the same thing

A h bomb and a nuklear detonation are not the same thing. A hydrogen bomb is much much more Power full for a totally different reason.


According to USGS the detonation happened 10 km under ground. WHat they have to wait for now to know what kind of detonation it was. Is to observe rainfall and dust particles in the air around the detonation site. EDIT: The heat signature from the ground is also something they will look into.

This is what they will use their satellites for in the days to come.

The prescient Trump right again!

From September:

Donald Trump said the U.S. should pay more attention to North Korea's nuclear program, calling its leader a "maniac" during the second main-stage GOP presidential debate on Wednesday night.

"We're talking about Iran. The agreement was terrible, it was incompetent. I've never seen anything like it. One of the worst contracts I've ever seen," said Trump, the Republican front-runner.

"Nobody ever mentions North Korea, where you have this maniac, sitting there, and he actually has nuclear weapons," he added of leader Kim Jong Un.

thehill.com...

a reply to: Vector99

But isn't Kim propped up by China? The NORKS being their proxy against the US interests in South Korea and Japan?

There is no way to "ignore" this (what will Obama do?) And how can the UN spin this? The seismic events from the tests have upgraded to (USGS) 5.1.

I hope I am wrong and end up pleasantly surprised, but I don't feel the current US administration can multitask very well.

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: spy66
If you say so.

H bomb or a nuklear detonation.

Kinda the same thing

A h bomb and a nuklear detonation are not the same thing. A hydrogen bomb is much much more Power full for a totally different reason.

Why? because one is fission and the other is fusion? Both are nuclear reactions.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Yes...I commented (but didn't quote DJT) back on page 3 about Trumps answer on global threats and that everyone ignores Kim. Prescient? Well prepped? Yes I think on BOTH counts. The response (on stage at the Republican debate) was dismissive, eye rolls, and he's a "fear monger."

a reply to: Glinda

China barely tolerates NK anymore, and only for that reason. A buffer zone.

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: brace22



How can they. It just happened a few hours ago. As sson as NK mentioned this on the News Our media desided to treat it as a nuklear detonation. They have not had enough time to assess what kind of detonation this was.


Our governments are guessing just as much as we are.

The only one guessing here is you.

There is a distinct difference between an earthquake and a nuclear explosion when measured by a seismometer.

A seismologist would be able to tell instantly.

a reply to: Vector99

China firmly opposes NK's test..

news.xinhuanet.com...

originally posted by: spy66


According to USGS the detonation happened 10 km under ground.

Last time I checked, it was 0km

a reply to: Chadwickus

Who didn't see that coming...

LIL Kim is REALLY testing the waters with this one. It's one thing to do it when China's economy is stable and can handle a bump from NK, but when their market is in a state-controlled selling situation?

This may be the event that forces China to formally intervene.

a reply to: Bedlam

that's what I was thinking, but I know absolutely nothing about nukes, or the difference between hydrogen and other.

You, however, do.

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
What century is this? This is insane.

Also, how could millions of dollars spent on U.S. intelligence fail to catch a whiff of this?

They caught this likely months ago.

But what can the USA do?

Nothing.

The USA has decided to piss around in the ME instead.

a reply to: crazyewok

The US won't do anything in NK unless China says ok.

Iran has a very good trade relationship with North Korea who supplies them with missile and nuclear technology.

The Middle East has been the major market for North Korean arms, with Iran and Libya making most purchases. Sales to Iran peaked in the early 1980s at the height of the Iran-Iraq war. These sales probably constitute about 90 percent of North Korea's arms exports, making this relationship most valuable. Other Middle East clients probably include Egypt and Syria. Through Middle Eastern arms sales, North Korea gains hard currency, alternative oil sources, and access to restricted technology.

fas.org...

a reply to: crazyewok

Even if we weren't, as you put it so eloquently, pissing around in the ME, we couldn't do much about it anyway. Nothing outside of a war.

In those mountains? In the winter? An entire generation of American GI's and Marines just started shivering again...

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: crazyewok

Even if we weren't, as you put it so eloquently, pissing around in the ME, we couldn't do much about it anyway. Nothing outside of a war.

In those mountains? In the winter? An entire generation of American GI's and Marines just started shivering again...

Not sure how else we can describe the USA invovlment in the ME, it certainly isnt fixing it


Anyway as I said. Nothing the USA can do about NK except send a few angry letters to the UN.

a reply to: crazyewok

Oh, I don't disagree with you. It's as apt a description of what's happening there as any... Unfortunately.

a reply to: crazyewok

I think the pressure will be put on China to act, and their economy is caught in a massive burst at the moment. They can't afford to just pay to shut up NK, well at least I don't think.

Interesting move to say the least. I'll be following this.