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Why are no aliens artifacts found here on Earth?

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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 10:59 PM

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: UKTruth

I don't know - it makes sense to me that any civilisation visiting another planet would use the most available and easy to use raw materials.

I wonder would we still use stone if it was easy to transport, shape and construct with?

Think of a race 10,000 100,000 a million years a head of us, I do not buy it. They would maybe use our natural resources but to build at the tech level of us for that time I do not see it.

A very interesting point, would a civilization like that continue to evolve new technology's or would they eventually level out at a set level, I personally think for a civilization to last that long they would have to level out in order to prevent themselves from destroying themselves or even replacing themselves.

The Kardashev Scale is what a theorist whom thought on just this point created

But I wonder if a race could actually go so far that they would leave the physical dimension behind though this would require them to not level out but to change and adapt becoming more than they were and changing into something entirely alien to there original state of being.

posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 11:06 PM
Well if the earth is a few million years old meteors, volcano s , sun flares....large collision s, with earth that makes the moon, so they say...who knows. reply to: Frocharocha

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 05:20 AM

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: UKTruth

It is a reasonable thought that many of the Nazca lines were made for their gods. The question is who are they? And why the heck did they make sculptures only visible from the sky in terrain that would remain untouched for thousands of years? So far from their cities that they would have to travel and make these. Most ancient cultures that worshipped gods didn't make their tributaries like the Nazca. That is why it remains such a mystery.

Yep, somethings like the nazca lines are questionable. Why would ancient people spend time and effort to build those things to please theirs gods? That's a mystery. Hindu legends and stories als oare very intruiguing, specially the mahabharata, which oddly seems to describe the use of anti-matter/nuclear weapons in celestial wars.

The problem is people do not have faith that humans can do all that, I wonder why... Also do you find it strange of an advance alien race that comes here and then works with raw stone and simple metals? It is like nothing cool and crazy can be human origin. I think aliens are just a cop out for an easy way to explain how something was done instead of really trying to figure out how it was done.

It's no strange that we try to explain such mechanisms and constructions by the work of aliens. The history of many ancient civilizations were since long in the past. As a history teacher of mine once said: "Any explanation for ancient extraordinary stuff will be accptable as long as human imaginatino can florish and there are no concrete evidences to explain such."

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 05:37 AM
a reply to: Frocharocha

How about all the giant monoliths / rock structures? Have we figured out how man, without the wheel, moved 400 ton stone blocks?

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 06:05 AM
the Military Industrial Complex confiscates, steals, and hides any extraterrestrial materials discovered and then threatens civilians who have accidentally found the items with death (and their families with death). Why do you think all whistleblowers have met 'untimely" and 'unexplained' deaths a few months after they have disclosed what they know to the general populace? Research Phil Schneider who was garrotted to death and the thousands of others who have 'died mysteriously" or have supposedly 'committed suicide" by shooting themselves at point blank range in the head 'TWICE'!! Whistleblowers are threatened with death and if that doesn't shut them up, they are then charged with 'possession of child porn' or rape. Their reputation is publicly trashed, or they get locked up in a mental institution with no rights and no way of communicating to the outside world.

The materials have been found and do exist on this planet, but disclosing the whereabouts or knowledge of their existence comes with great cost to the person concerned.

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 08:27 AM

originally posted by: Frocharocha ... what are the chances of aliens who evolved in a star thousands of light-years always also creating the same stuff as we? so if we except to see alien artifacts, it would be something at least out of ordinary.

that's my whole point, you can't figure out their intentions. so what is this something you would have to consider "out of the ordinary"? what if stones and crystals had a really important role in their technology? what if high technology is supersimple? what good does the sophistication of the LHC do if it doesn't make something or do something that directly benefits us? just because it's complicated doesn't mean it's really worth a s-h-I-t. Maybe they are the ultimate recyclers or really good at not polluting? What is so superior about our technology? it is disposable and in ten thousand years there won't be a trace of it, unlike theirs. You can't apply anything you've learned through Hollywood or the mainstream media so again, what do you know about them that makes you unable to believe they would use stone to build an infrastructure on a rocky planet?

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 09:13 AM

originally posted by: Kratos40

originally posted by: Salander
I think there are numerous signs, clues, whatever, showing alien presence here. Indeed, if the hypothesis put forth by Human Genome Project 10+ years ago, that parts of the human DNA strand are extraterrestrial in origin, are true, then we humans are living artifacts of aliens.

Understanding that our "conventional wisdom" regarding human history is grossly incorrect, alien influence cannot be denied.

Actually what the Human Genome Project found was that a lot of our junk DNA or epigenome has a lot of virus DNA incomporated into it. Not from aliens flying in spaceships DNA.

Describe it as you will. I did not mention aliens flying in spaceships DNA, you did.

It's old news now, but when it came out 10 years ago I read the hypothesis, and I'm quite sure the term used to describe our junk DNA was "extraterrestrial in origin".

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 10:34 AM
a reply to: Salander

Well since they brought up the subject of DNA remember the infamous star child skull, I for one think that is a genuine artefact and not the product of hydrocephalus as is the usual debunk claim but to get to my point, the endron's which is the bulk of the DNA that is thought not to be used and is also called Junk DNA is almost identical in the DNA test that was carried out on that skull but later refuted, I actually think the later DNA tests were a cover up and the original test was as accurate as it could be at the time.

Now this so called Junk DNA is thought to be the oldest DNA in our cell's, it is mostly thought to be inactive but though this creature had about 50 percent DNA the same as us and the rest of life on our planet it begs the question did it's origin happen in a different epoch and not one related to the Cambrian explosion, if so then it proves that there was more than one evolution or creation of an eco system on this planet as that 50 percent shared with all other life on our planet would prove a link to the single celled organism's (As they are though to have been) from which our own eco system, plant's, fungus and animal's evolved but since it shares only that base line it would be non of these in our usual categorisation's based on DNA analysis and would represent a fourth life kingdom (Plant's, Animal's, Fungus and whatever this alien's DNA represented), or a previous Ecosystem that did not survive or did not survive ON earth that is.

Of course the critics and debunkers of the star child and it's major backer are many but of course they would be as it would be representative of ground breaking data, it's bone tissue for instance was not bone like our's but more like the enamel of a tooth, it was thiner than our skull but had carbon filament's grown within it that meant it was probably stronger than our own bone's despite it's thin nature (possibly genetic engineering of it's ancestors).

Of course it could have been hydrocephalus and a human skull with the DNA contaminated by it's environment.

I think it is genuinely not human though but if it is a child whom suffered then may the lord rest it's soul.

But someone wanted him silenced.

Ever remember the MJ12 autopsy document's that were supposedly from Roswell, how the Alien's or rather non human's came in two varieties, one with a chlorofil like blood and green skin and the other similar to the gray's of modern ufological lore but in them they seemed to be almost human but with oversized brain's, a third lobe connecting both hemispheres of there brain and an atrophied digestive tract as if they did not ingest food but there ancestors may have.

What if we really are being taken for a ride by self serving interests whom want to keep the truth from us (We all accept we are but the subject matter is the sticking point for many).

The reason why there may not be any alien artifact's or rather very few that have survived is because they may actually not be alien, just not human.
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posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 01:38 PM

originally posted by: Frocharocha
That's a big question of mine. If extraterrestrial entities have been on Earth for so long and also stabilished some civilizations, outposts or whatever like some people usually say, why we can't find artifacts or any kind of vestige from extraterrestrials beings on Earth?

For an alien species to be able to get here, then they would have to be scientifically thousands or maybe even millions of years ahead of us. The science that they would possess could be unfathomable to us humans.

Also in order for a species to survive, they would have to realize their own effect on the environment. We as a species are already aware of our carbon footprint on the environment despite our civilization only being a few thousand years old. We are developing technologies right now to counter this.

Technologies would be created that I am sure would not affect the environment and overtime would disintegrate. If any aliens came here in the past, I am sure that technology would be purposely perishable so it would not affect the environment.

Also, like I said before. That technology might so unfathomable by human standards that maybe they could view everything in earth, but not actually come here. Just viewed it and took samples from millions of light years away. They could view our planet right now and see us typing away at our computers yet we would have no idea. So maybe they don’t have to affect our environment at all.

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 09:39 PM
a reply to: randyvs

All indications are that whether or not they present themselves as pleasing to the eye. They are an abomination. They are wicked and the wise would not put any trust in them.

They've been here all along. Before we ever were here.

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 10:02 PM

originally posted by: LABTECH767
A very interesting point, would a civilization like that continue to evolve new technology's or would they eventually level out at a set level, I personally think for a civilization to last that long they would have to level out in order to prevent themselves from destroying themselves or even replacing themselves.

I think the window for self destruction is small, but they could be replaced with machines. They also could be replaced with self evolution, as Hawking is suggesting we are entering that phase. I do not think they ever stop learning well until they maybe transform into something that doesn't need to learn anymore.

But I wonder if a race could actually go so far that they would leave the physical dimension behind though this would require them to not level out but to change and adapt becoming more than they were and changing into something entirely alien to there original state of being.

What happens when you can instantly create anything, who knows what the next step is.

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 10:45 PM
a reply to: tigertatzen

They've been here all along. Before we ever were here.

I've given myself over to years of unbiased thought and
research on these matters. My thoughts and my beliefs
as a result, lead me to believe, you have it absolutely
100% correct.

posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 11:05 PM
a reply to: Frocharocha

The Universe is only 4% "Normal Matter"

99.999% of Normal Matter is Plasma

That comes out to .0004 * .00001 or 0.000000004 of the Universe that this discussion
is dealing with. (4x 10 -9).

By simple math, it is shown, that humans basically live in a cosmic shoe box compared
to the "main real universe", which could well be crawling with non-material civilizations.

Discussing nuts and bolts UFOs and artifacts is like squabbling over 1 hypothetical
grain of sand, never seen, while ignoring the entire rest of the Earth's mass.


posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 11:07 PM
How many artifacts from our top-secret military projects have been discovered/wandered across, and, importantly, have not had their nature covered up?

Now multiply that secrecy and level of technological advancement by a hundred, or a thousand.

posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 03:23 AM
a reply to: randyvs

Assuming any of this is true, and I am, as you know, a skeptic... I think that notion is closer to the reality than benevolent "space brothers".

posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 06:23 AM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

In that case, your little space buddies are gaseous. Not very useful for a technological civilization.

posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 07:06 AM
They are supposed to be advanced people, don't they? They don't litter. They recycle. BTW, A. Clarke had a theory that life on Earth started from the waste aliens left behind. So.. who knows.

posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 07:06 AM
a reply to: seagull

While the "benevolent" image of aliens is likely incorrect, the truth of the matter is that I simply cannot see them as outstandingly malicious. At the very least, not to our human understanding. At worst, it is probable that they see us in much the way we see antelope, or wolves, or ants. There may be some who see us as objects to be examined (cold and logical), those who care for us and wish to protect us even if they cannot see us as "equals" (WPA type), and those who derive pleasure from our pain (like our own animal torturers.) I would like to believe, however, that the first and second types are significantly more prevalent than the third, much like our own species.
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posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 07:09 AM
a reply to: Debunkology

Why exactly do they NEED to be thousands to a million years a head of us? Scientific advancement seems to happen quickly in small bursts. You have no way of knowing what is actually required scientifically to cross this gap, and when the eureka moment might occur that is the key to the stars.

We could discover it tomorrow if the right mind comes along... heck for all we know we could already have that tech, but it's still experimental and hidden in the black world.

posted on Jan, 4 2016 @ 07:15 AM
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Technological advancement does not require ethical advancement. For all we know aliens are lazy, arrogant and jerks. They quite possibly don't need our planet or our resources. In fact they likely want for nothing. Is possible the only thing they need is things to keep them mentally and emotionally occupied and sated. We could be to them nothing more than a biological and social experiment, beings to study. We could also be their personal play things, poke us and watch us go. Heck they could even if they wanted treat us as living chess pieces. Each species picking different human countries and playing a twisted game of Risk using real people. So many options.
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