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TAMPA — Heroin addicts with recurring heart valve problems caused by their use of dirty needles are forcing surgeons across the state to make difficult ethics decisions on continuing to provide them expensive care.
Cardiac surgeons are seeing a 50 percent increase in ineffective valvular heart disorders attributed to the use of dirty needles, said Scott H. Bronleewe, a cardiac surgeon practicing in Tampa for the past 26 years.
The cost is staggering: more than $500,000 for the procedure and hospital stay for an uninsured addict, many of whom are back on the operating table within a few months, suffering from the same infections.
Surgeons across the state, already stretched thin by the problem, are stepping back, saying they will operate on an addict once, maybe twice, but will draw the line at a third time.
“If they return with reinfected endocarditis due to continued drug abuse, they are on their own,” Bronleewe said.
Though this could open the door to legal action, he said, no medical malpractice suits have been filed yet. Courts have indicated that this stand is legal because it is a form of resource rationing, he said.
By Keith Morelli | Tribune Staff
All I can say is that these surgeons spend much time, effort, and resources to treat these problems,and these junkies just have no shame or concern for their well being. I have to side with the surgeons with this one
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to ALL my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
these junkies just have no shame or concern for their well being.
Lets hope we can try and persuade addicts away from drug use somehow, or perhaps make treatment conditional on rehabilitation in some way?
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: AmericanRealist
Man that sounded low. No compassion at all? These people have to be in an incredibly crappy place to try heroin in the first place.
Addiction is a terrible thing, these people are sick. I think we've all made some bad choices here and there, unfortunately an addict makes the mistake once and it's not so easy to give up.
"Chapter 893 of Florida statutes makes it unlawful to conduct a syringe exchange program," said Susan Smith, press secretary for the Florida Department of Health. "We implement policies set forth by the Legislature."
The law makes it a third-degree felony "to deliver, possess with intent to deliver, or manufacture with intent to deliver drug paraphernalia, knowing, or under circumstances where one reasonably should know" that it would be used to inject, ingest or inhale an illegal substance.
"You'd have to have that willingness," said Allan Clear, executive director of Harm Reduction Coalition in New York City. "One of the problems with Florida is it's not had that willingness. It's politically conservative."
The Florida Department of Health is studying whether to recommend a change in the law. That would need to be in collaboration with the state's drug director, who takes the major role in drug policy, said Tom Liberti, chief of the department's Bureau of HIV/AIDS.
Bob Rihn, executive director of Tri-County Human Services in Lakeland, said he would support having an exemption for syringe-exchange programs if appropriate guidelines were in place.
The rising use of heroin by addicts left high and dry by the shuttering of opiate pill mills a few years ago is the main reason behind the increase, surgeons say.
Bronleewe, also president of the Florida Society of Thoracic & Cardiovascular Surgeons, said his group of five surgeons in Tampa has noticed a sizable bump in the need for the procedure over the past two years, since the state shut down all the pill mills, which were an easy way for addicts to obtain opiates.
originally posted by: sweets777
a reply to: boncho
So when you say its about the needles lol shows you are either a user which i have been one before never shot it up.
Or you just dont know what your talking about ....at all.
originally posted by: AmericanRealist
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: AmericanRealist
Man that sounded low. No compassion at all? These people have to be in an incredibly crappy place to try heroin in the first place.
Addiction is a terrible thing, these people are sick. I think we've all made some bad choices here and there, unfortunately an addict makes the mistake once and it's not so easy to give up.
Yes that was a bit harsh, I will apologize. Let me just say, unfortunately I have met every type of addict known to man, and many of them know full well they dont care to change and admit they will die with a needle in the arm or a glass pipe in their hand. It gets to be depressing.
a reply to: dogstar23
Thing is, people who have hit rock bottom are not even thinking of the cleanliness of the needle. It may be an afterthought when the drug wears off, and many just toss them out into the grass or parking lots. I think that also ties in with what CraftBuilder stated in that those who can actually manage the addiction are a rare breed with a sort of rare immunity.
This article from 2010 explains part of the problem with dirty needles in this state
"Chapter 893 of Florida statutes makes it unlawful to conduct a syringe exchange program," said Susan Smith, press secretary for the Florida Department of Health. "We implement policies set forth by the Legislature."
The law makes it a third-degree felony "to deliver, possess with intent to deliver, or manufacture with intent to deliver drug paraphernalia, knowing, or under circumstances where one reasonably should know" that it would be used to inject, ingest or inhale an illegal substance.
"You'd have to have that willingness," said Allan Clear, executive director of Harm Reduction Coalition in New York City. "One of the problems with Florida is it's not had that willingness. It's politically conservative."
However
The Florida Department of Health is studying whether to recommend a change in the law. That would need to be in collaboration with the state's drug director, who takes the major role in drug policy, said Tom Liberti, chief of the department's Bureau of HIV/AIDS.
Bob Rihn, executive director of Tri-County Human Services in Lakeland, said he would support having an exemption for syringe-exchange programs if appropriate guidelines were in place.
I dont know how much progress is being made, but I found this on Lifeinvader, and have no idea what it says because I dont have a life invader account. Anyone want to help me disseminate any useful info from there onto this thread would be appreciated.