Revelation -Predictive Programming-Her Name is Alice – Continuation

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Disclaimer 2: In most of my threads, I speak majorly in terms of Allegories and metaphors. I believe the answers to many of humanity’s questions can come through stories that are shared in a fictitious form, but yet, allegorically hands out a message to the reader or audience.

Disclaimer3: I may have an “authoritive” way of describing things. People have called me narcissistic, because of this. However, this is how I learned to write and convey a message. Not everyone writes in the same way. I do apologize in advance if I seem narcissistic-ally authoritative. However, when one has studied within an area, or field. We can speak in an authoritative tone, because of the studies done. However, this does not make me a “master, in said field” mostly because I am still learning everyday.

It is no different than listening to a college professor who studied in his or her field of knowledge. Would you dare call a professor “narcissist” because he is speaking in an authoritative tone in front of his class? (I think you would be thrown out of the classroom most likely. All I am asking is to keep things respectful in this topic, and not assassinate my character, just because the topic does not measure to your beliefs. That is actually narcissistic within itself.)

Disclaimer 4: When I mention He/she, it means, im generalizing between both sexes, male and female, and not specifically referring to anyone. I use “he/she” a lot to save time.

Before I start this topic, I wanted to point out, that this is definitely not a topic for everyone. There will be skeptics, and there will be unbelievers. However, this thread, is not for skeptics, because what I am about to show, is for those who are spiritually awake, and will undoubtedly recognize the symbology behind this. I ask ATS members, who seriously partake in this topic to:

1. Ignore the Trolls, or anyone trying to discredit (even through ridicule), and simply share what you know.
2. Do not show fear if you know something, but you read a comment, that may discourage you from sharing your own experience. Please do share, because I do need help with this puzzle. Chances are, you will be adding to this grand puzzle and helping more people within this field.

To those who are skeptics, I understand that:

1. You will think this topic as being "stupid", "crazy" or simply being "my imagination". I am not here to convince anyone, I am mostly here to point out what I have observed, and unite my research with others. Because I know I am not alone in this field, and some people in ATS are most likely doing this research already. This observation is shared with other people who are within this field. If you, have no prior knowledge, and simply want to destroy the topic, save it. And move on, because I’m not here to address skeptics. I am here to talk to:

1. People with biblical Knowledge
2. People who are spiritually awake.
3. People who have their third eye awakened
4. People who have experienced seeing the "eye".

Another reminder to Skeptics: These are spiritual Beliefs, and I advise you, to show me the same courtesy, as you would to those who are:
1. Atheists
2. Islamists
2. Jewish
4. Christian
5. Pagan
6. Scientists

In short: I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe. I am not here to convince you, so don't try to convince me. You won't, and you'll simply be wasting your time. As I said, this topic, is NOT for everyone.

The reason why, is because I actually want to get somewhere through comparing experiences rather than arguing with people who can't comprehend the topic due to their inexperience within this field. It cannot be helped.

Why I posted this in the metaphysical forums, and not in the religious forums is, because the topic does turn metaphysical in nature, especially when it surrounds the symbol of the atom and thought (THOTH). Plus metaphysics leaves room open for that which is “bizarre” or “seemingly “crazy”.

This thread is an addition to my own research with regards to the Jezebel Spirit. Which is a female entity described in the bible. If you wish to see some of my other findings and observations and catch up to this topic please visit my past threads, and view how they are all linked to one another. After reading those, then come back to this one, since it is a continuation of this series.

My intention: Is to overwhelm people with evidences, that they can no longer deny the existence of such evidences. The more evidences and symbols and "coincidences" there are, the more people realize that there IS something more to this topic, which seems "crazy". That being said, I am not here to convince anyone. I am here to point out, an observation.

Past Threads In this Series:

Her Name is Alice, Jezebel, Lilith, ISIS, Our Melisandre
You ARE Anti-Semetic/ Antieverything if you Support ZIonism
The History Untold- How the New World Order was formed- How Narcisism is Destructive
The Illuminati & Dajjal The Cat- Bastet


Now, To the Main Topic.

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a reply to: SoulSurfer
Her Name is Alice – Continuation

Along my research, I stumbled upon Bryan Kemila’s work, titled: Illuminatimatrix

You can find his Research Here:
Illuminatimatrix-Bryan Kemila

He gives a description as to what he thinks the all Seeing Eye is, and what “God” is and what we “are”. Even I struggled a lot in grasping what he was trying to say, because indeed it does confirm my personal worse fear, however it also made me wonder on the words Yah Shu Ah (Jesus) supposedly spoke:

“Love nothing of the world, for those who love the world is not with the father.”

Keep these biblical words in mind as you watch the following video.

However, before you begin watching, do not believe anything anyone says, that includes me, Bryan, or anyone. Look into it yourself and YOU decide for yourself by looking deeper into this research. It is a very long topic, and perhaps an infinite one because it really has no end and the evidences are in fact so overwhelming; that it will take a long time to point it all out, but trust this at least; the more you search, the more you will find, this I guarantee. All I am doing is giving you the eyes to see. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is as deep as I have gone within the rabbit hole, and this is the sole reason why I no longer focus on exposing the elites or the illuminated ones. As I spoken in other threads, they are no longer my concern, as my concern is what is at the top capstone of this pyramid scheme. The prince (or princess) of tier.

Take a moment and watch this video to its fullest. This may resonate with many of you who have meditated and are aware of awareness. This may not exactly be new to you, but this may be new for others who still are not aware.


In the above video, Bryan mentioned (spoilers) that “the God of this realm” is the “Matrix mother” “Lucifer” the “light bringer”. This matrix mother is the “Womb”, the hex placed on humanity. The all Seeing Eye is actually the ATOM. ATOM is also ADAM and EVE. ATOM and Electrons.
Now, this knowledge falls very similar to those of Gnostics, and this is why I am very careful with this, because according to Gnostics, the “Goddess” “Sophia” was superior to the Judeo-christian God.

Those who have done research in this topic, may have stumbled unto forbidden knowledge of “Sophia” and Gnosticism. Sophia is often represented as the “goddess” with the apple of knowledge.

Remember I Pet Goat 2? See 1min and 18 seconds in.


Some things to notice in the image below:

1. The Checkerboard (Masonic symbolism)
2. The rabbit (Alice and wonderland, Alice follows the rabbit down the rabbit hole)
3. The apple
4. Sophia “imprisoned”/ surrounded.




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a reply to: SoulSurfer

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However, what does differ from Bryan kemila’s research vs those who are Gnostics, is that he puts “Sophia” as the demiurge Goddess enslaving mankind. However, according to Gnostics, “Sophia” (Aka Lucifer) is the liberator of mankind and she is often represented by a swastika, or the symbol of the blacksun, the eye, (Counter clockwise swirl, or anti-time. Read on, for more on what anti-time has to do with this “Goddess” later in this thread.)

Gnostics on the other hand, puts the “Judeo-christian” God as the demiurge enslaving mankind, and that “Sophia” or “sophiel” is the superior God beyond the judeo-christian God.

Someone IS lying here, maybe both? I keep an open mind on these topics, because of what I will show you within predictive programing, along with verses of the bible.

In the book of revelations of the King James Version of the Bible, the “Scarlet Whore” of Babylon, and the beast are working together. (Scarlet and the beast, is also a reference to “Beauty and the Beast”.)


Bryan Kemila mentioned in his blog, that all religions are false, let’s take a look at Bryan’s point of view, since Gnosticism, Satanism, and other religions have already been looked into. Since Bryan presents a new point of view, that I have yet to see in other sources, I wanted to give Bryan a chance and explore this by trying to see what he sees. (Put myself in his shoes, other than relying on my own for a moment, but yet applying my own findings within this field to compare experiences.)


This is how I can keep an open mind, without being bias. My ego, still struggles with all of this information, but it does resonate within me, and that is what I find scary. My intuition never lies, and usually is correct, while my mind works opposite to my intuition. (I won’t lie, Bryan’s work has challenged all of my belief system to the point where I even became angry at the information he presented.)


But let’s see how Bryan’s work compares with predictive programming. (Feel free to revisit the threads above, for many evidences within predictive programing. I pointed out a lot of them, and I will continue that series here in this thread.)

Some of you, may be familiar with the Final Fantasy Series.

Yes, I was a fan of Cloud and Squall, and my favorite games of all time remains, final fantasy 7 and 8. I lost count how many times I actually played this game when I was a kid. But these two games bring HUGE clues within this predictive programming. I strongly believe, the Japanese have been warning people as to what is really going on.

Final Fantasy 8 Symbology and Predictive Programming


Let’s examine the plot of the story (Spoiler Alert):


The Main Villain of the story, is a sorceress called “Ultimecia”. She has a pair of black wings, and her ultimate goal is to achieve “Time compression”. Again, we see an anti-time reference here. The heroes’ of the story, has to stop her, or else existence would be denied.

When the characters defeats her the first time, she summons forth a “beast”, very similar looking to a “lion” mixed with something else. After the characters defeats this beast, she then merges with this beast as one being.

(Scarlet and the beast reference is shown right here.) This is also referring to the biblical prophecy of scarlet and the beast. (Keep reading, it gets more interesting).

Take a look at the form she takes as she merges with this beast.

That’s right, the ATOM-the light. (I noticed this today, and I HAD to post this topic.)



Scarlet and the beast Joined as one.


Now, comes the creepy part, many of you have heard the “above, so below” reference right?

After the characters defeats the conjoined being, everything fades away into blackness. (The Void? –Anti-Time?)

Many spiritualists believe, that the void is the opposite realm to this realm. New agers, tells you, to search for the light within this “void”. As above, so below. What I need you to take notice, is how the final form of this “goddess” takes place. As the void comes to fruition, so does her true form, in an “inverted way.”

Her physical body is seen now as “reversed” “below” since they entered the “Void”. It is a mirror reference. Ultimecia’s (Main Villain in FF8) true form is within the void. You will see her emitting “light” within this void. You will also see the Divided light – red, blue- and green, as it forms other colors as the light expands outward.

If you follow Bryan’s work, you will see what this divided light actually means from his point of view.

Now observe the screenshot from this specific scene:



What are the Japanese trying to tell us here?

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a reply to: SoulSurfer


This is not the first time a reference to this Goddess was made in this series. Final fantasy 7 also brings it up. To those who played this game, Remember Jenova? Jenova represents Jehova in a subliminal message.

Final Fantasy 7 Predictive Programming of the Goddess:


The plot surrounds a “goddess’ falling from “heaven” in a form of a meteor. The main villain in this story however is the one winged angel “sephiroth”. He finds out he was genetically modified with the cells of this being that came from “heaven.”

He calls himself a monster, when he finds out the truth of his bloodline. (Beast reference.) He then calls Jenova “mother” and that he was chosen to rule the planet by his “mother” “Jenova”.

Screenshot of Jenova



Won’t get much into the details there, but that is a very odd reference. But it made me wonder about what Bryan said about the all Seeing Eye. Another reference is, Prometheus movie. In final fantasy 7, Sephiroth’s genes were manipulated by the jenova cells. In the movie Prometheus, human genetics evolved from the cells of Prometheus. (Somewhat of a similar theme, but won’t go much into detail on that one.)

Let’s say Bryan is correct, then both Gnostics and the Judeo Christian God (including ISLAM) is false, and what people have been worshiping this entire time was “Jezebel, Lilith, ISIS, whatever her name is, (because she has many, to the Catholics she is Mary.)

Lilith is the inspiration behind the feminist movement. If you do some digging, this entity is worshiped through by the large majority of feminists.


Recently, I found this little jewel of information with regards to Planned Parenthood, and the worship from employees of this Goddess. This researcher, opened my eyes with his work and also mentioned the NEW AGE philosophy as being part of what these employees believe in. (And something tells me there are more people exposing this, the more I search and see all points of views. But what is absolutely frightening to me, is how the dots connects with one another.)





If Bryan is correct on this information, then Lilith/jezebel, is the one blocking our “eternal wisdom” of knowing.


But one question lingers in my mind. Is this “goddess” truly evil? Or is she simply a teacher of lessons? From my personal experience with this Goddess, she is not kind, and she is not friendly, and she declared war against me when I rejected her. Not exactly a loving being is she?


She may as well be the Goddess of this realm. But one thing I know for damn sure, she is NOT my creator.


As for Yah shu ah, aka Jesus. The jury is still out on that one. However, the one thing Gnostics and Bryan have in common, is the Void. Bryan doesn’t refer it as the void, but rather “no-thing”. Which reminds me of the void within Final fantasy 8. But perhaps this “goddess” wants to control that “void” even though she herself is part of it.


Because the goddess is “something” according to Bryan’s philosophy and research, then she is in fact false. (The light is the lie). The illuminati, and freemasonry, worship “The Light”, which equals to Knowledge. (Many are right, on not worshiping a being specifically, however, the light is still something they do tend to bring into attention. So follow the words carefully of those who speak in favor of “the light”.)


Which reminds me of this scene from the movie merlin, when merlin fights against queen mab. His solution was simply to ignore her existence.



It also reminds me of when Buddha achieved enlightenment in this scene starring Keanu reeves.



There are also clues within the King Arthur Mythology, with regards to merlin’s fight against Morgana, and other female sorceresses. It was because of Morgana, or queen mab, that Arthur met his “end” but was said, to return when man needed him the most. (Which is a allegorical reference to Yah shu ah, king of kings)

While you agree or disagree, it is rather thought provoking when looking at the details and metaphors of certain stories. However, most people don’t take notice, because they mostly take stories literally, instead of metaphorically. But you will find that many stories actually share the same exact metaphor, repeated, over and over. When you see it on a grander scale, the great majority of stories are actually telling the same story line, only using different plots, different characters, and different settings.

That’s why many notice the “clichés” and tends to predict when a character or a certain character will die. It does become predictable when you’ve familiarized yourself with the same story time and time again. That is the beauty of metaphors and allegories. Many don’t notice the same theme. That is why hidden messages, are actually called “hidden in plain sight”.

I hope this provoked some critical thinking within you, and my apologies for the four disclaimers at the start of the thread. That was mostly placed as a shield against possible attacks against my character.

Hope you all have a nice day, and thank you for taking time in reading into my latest finds. I will post more as I find them. (No compromises though.)

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originally posted by: SirGuese
Japan wouldn't exist without the protection that the United States provides.

Off topic. And this shows you read nothing on what the topic is about.

Ignore Sirguese's post. It has nothing to do with what was spoken about in the OP.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
The illuminati, and freemasonry, worship “The Light”, which equals to Knowledge.

Masonry does not worship anything, including 'light' or 'knowledge'.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
The illuminati, and freemasonry, worship “The Light”, which equals to Knowledge.

Masonry does not worship anything, including 'light' or 'knowledge'.

I will trust my masonic sources who speak otherwise from the lodge A.U.R.O.R.A. and A.L.G.A.D.U.

And we have been over this before. And I will say again, I have my sources, you have yours. And i trust them more because I have been inside those temples and had symbols explained to me by the Grand Master at said lodge.

the light is the great architect of the Universe. (or the womb of the mother matrix). It all leads to what I mentioned in the OP.

By the way, my stalker, you posted in every thread i made. I feel flattered. Do you have me bookmarked as a "priority"? I don't follow you, why are you following me?

Just saying.. again,.. because this is getting old.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
I will trust my masonic sources who speak otherwise from the lodge A.U.R.O.R.A. and A.L.G.A.D.U.

Good for you, those lodges are minor in nature with a very small membership compared to Regular Masonry which is what I am referencing.

And we have been over this before. And I will say again, I have my sources, you have yours. And i trust them more because I have been inside those temples and had symbols explained to me by the Grand Master at said lodge.

Good for you, let me know when you actually become a member of what I am referring to so we can discuss this as equals on the subject. I was in a hospital once but I try not to tell surgeons what to do.

the light is the great architect of the Universe. (or the womb of the mother matrix). It all leads to what I mentioned in the OP.

Actually, in Masonry, 'light' is synonymous with 'knowledge', not with God.

By the way, my stalker, you posted in every thread i made. I feel flattered. Do you have me bookmarked as a "priority"? I don't follow you, why are you following me?

Yes, I was assigned to follow you otherwise I do not get my full commission every quarter.

Just saying.. again,.. because this is getting old.

Maybe if you stopped making things up I would not have to correct you. Right, professor?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Actually, in Masonry, 'light' is synonymous with 'knowledge', not with God.

...really?

Read my quote from the op:

The illuminati, and freemasonry, worship “The Light”, which equals to Knowledge. (Many are right, on not worshiping a being specifically, however, the light is still something they do tend to bring into attention.

Maybe if you stopped making things up I would not have to correct you. Right, professor?

You did not correct me, you actually proved that my statement was true when you said:

Actually, in Masonry, 'light' is synonymous with 'knowledge', not with God.

I fail to see why we are arguing in the first place? You say potato, i say Pohtahdoh.
Overall on the same page...

anywho, thanks anyways for the. "correction".

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
...really?

Read my quote from the op:

I did, and then later you claimed 'light' is 'the Great Architect of the Universe'. It is not that nor is it worshipped.

You did not correct me, you actually proved that my statement was true when you said:

See above Professor.

I fail to see why we are arguing in the first place? You say potato, i say Pohtahdoh.

The fact that you claim Masonry 'worships' anything, it does not.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Perhaps the word worship, was the wrong choice. And I do stand corrected on that one. However, the term "follow the light, which means "follow the knowledge" is what freemasonry does. Which would be the more correct term to use in this regards. Correct?

However, where I do say you are wrong, is with regards to the great architect. It is, the all seeing eye. The eye / architect represents The arcing ability, to bend LIGHT. Light = thought, thought IS the egyptian God, THOTH.

Knowledge is symbolic with the apple. Correct? (This is universally known.)
The apple is a reference to the serpent and LILITH according to biblical studies. correct? (This too is universally known).

SO, what I am getting at, is that the light = to lilith. "The Goddess".

Freemasonry may not worship her, but they damn well follow her unknowingly. So does the great majority of people on this planet.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
Perhaps the word worship, was the wrong choice. And I do stand corrected on that one. However, the term "follow the light, which means "follow the knowledge" is what freemasonry does. Which would be the more correct term to use in this regards. Correct?

Masonry does not 'follow' anything. I think you are confused as to the fact that there are no directives given by anyone in regards what you should or should not learn. It is an independent spiritual growth that one must undertake and explore on their own.

However, where I do say you are wrong, is with regards to the great architect. It is, the all seeing eye. The eye / architect represents The arcing ability, to bend LIGHT. Light = thought, thought IS the egyptian God, THOTH.

The clear explanation given in the Master Mason Lecture is that the All Seeing Eye is the eye of God and God's ability to see your innermost thoughts and that you cannot hide them from God or yourself.

Knowledge is symbolic with the apple. Correct? (This is universally known.)

Not in Masonry.

The apple is a reference to the serpent and LILITH according to biblical studies. correct? (This too is universally known).

It has nothing to do with Masonry as none of those subjects are mentioned.

SO, what I am getting at, is that the light = to lilith. "The Goddess".

See above, Lilith has no mention in Masonry.

Freemasonry may not worship her, but they damn well follow her unknowingly. So does the great majority of people on this planet.

If you say so. You strung a bunch of unrelated topics together and then claim they are somehow germane to each other and that the majority of the planet ascribes to them. Not exactly top notch research, eh Professor?

Alice ? loll who the **** is Alice

Masonry does not 'follow' anything. I think you are confused as to the fact that there are no directives given by anyone in regards what you should or should not learn. It is an independent spiritual growth that one must undertake and explore on their own.

No, I am pretty certain I am correct on what I said. No confusion here other than what you corrected me on before.

The clear explanation given in the Master Mason Lecture is that the All Seeing Eye is the eye of God and God's ability to see your innermost thoughts and that you cannot hide them from God or yourself.

"Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 819)

I will simply allow readers to ponder on that one.

Not in Masonry.

I disagree, because my sources told me otherwise.

It has nothing to do with Masonry as none of those subjects are mentioned.

It has EVERYTHING to do with masonry. But I will stop there because it is obvious I am exposing certain things within masonry, that masons would not like exposed. We will disagree here.

See above, Lilith has no mention in Masonry.

It has no mention, you are correct. But I am pointing out the connections with regards to it.

If you say so. You strung a bunch of unrelated topics together and then claim they are somehow germane to each other and that the majority of the planet ascribes to them. Not exactly top notch research, eh Professor?

They are very much related, and those with eyes that see will see them as I have. It is for them that I wrote this thread for. Not necessarily skeptics or Freemasons. To those reading this thread, follow your intuition, not what I nor Augustus says. Look into the information and connections yourselves. There is ALOT more and this topic is in fact endless the more deeper into the rabbit hole one goes.

I will continue posting these threads, whether the masons like it or not.

And I predict you will post again in other threads I make, Mr Mason. (The door swings both ways on that one.)

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
No, I am pretty certain I am correct on what I said. No confusion here other than what you corrected me on before.

If you are claiming that you are correct and that Masonry instructs anyone to follow anything, 'light' and 'knowledge' included then you are not correct.

"Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them." (Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 819)

Albert Pike is irrelevant to the majority of Masons and the book you are quoting is his opinion while the Master Mason Lecture is not.

I disagree, because my sources told me otherwise.

Your sources are irrelevant to the majority of Masons who are part of Regular Masonry.

It has EVERYTHING to do with masonry. But I will stop there because it is obvious I am exposing certain things within masonry, that masons would not like exposed. We will disagree here.

The cite the ritual where apples and Lilith appear. And frankly the only thing were are obligated not to discuss is five handshakes and five passwords, those are the big 'secrets'.

It has no mention, you are correct. But I am pointing out the connections with regards to it.

These are 'connections' that you are personally concocting, not any that are discussed or taught in Masonry.

They are very much related, and those with eyes that see will see them as I have.

They may be related to you but they have no relation within Masonry.

I will continue posting these threads, whether the masons like it or not.

And I will continue to correct you, whether you like it or not Professor.

And I predict you will post again in other threads I make, Mr Mason. (The door swings both ways on that one.)

It all depends on whether you intend on inventing facts or not and if you do not like people posting in your threads then go home to your website and post there Professor.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Can you quote me on these facts that I "invented" for the viewer to see if I indeed "invented" these facts by them searching if I am the inventor of said facts?

As to the rest of your post:

Well, you see it the way you do (so you say), but I have a different view on the subject to which, I see as correct. While it may not be correct with you, Mr, Mason. It is CORRECT to me.

Continue using the mocking ""professor" i respond with "Mr Mason" hence why the door swings both ways.

So, continue to try and correct, what I see as correct. I simply allow the viewer to decide for themselves without the interference of the freemasons within this subject. Which is supposed to expose the pyramid capstone.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
Can you quote me on these facts that I "invented" for the viewer to see if I indeed "invented" these facts by them searching if I am the inventor of said facts?

Here:

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
However, the term "follow the light, which means "follow the knowledge" is what freemasonry does.

The above is not correct by any means.

Well, you see it the way you do (so you say), but I have a different view on the subject to which, I see as correct. While it may not be correct with you, Mr, Mason. It is CORRECT to me.

Your personal perception does not make anything FACTUAL.

So, continue to try and correct, what I see as correct. I simply allow the viewer to decide for themselves without the interference of the freemasons within this subject.

Thank you Professor but I do not need your permission to post.

Which is supposed to expose the pyramid capstone.

How would you 'expose a capstone' when it already sits on top of a pyramid? That makes no metaphorical sense.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The above is not correct by any means.

You're wrong, it is correct.

Your personal perception does not make anything FACTUAL.

It is when evidences are presented, especially accompanied by that which many would call "coincidences". Which are not coincidences but in fact, FACTUAL.

Thank you Professor but I do not need your permission to post.

Then by all Means, MR. Mason, continue to post, for I know how to handle you now.

How would you 'expose a capstone' when it already sits on top of a pyramid? That makes no metaphorical sense.

That is mostly your own fault for failing to understand what the term "allegories" means. I cant help you there if you have no knowledge on what THAT means.

lets continue this arguement then, you show no signs of backing down, and neither will I. I say you are wrong, and lying. The fact is, YOU DONT KNOW. But I do.

and the quote from albert pike applies because it is the TRUTH with regards to YOUR current situation and sheer IGNORANCE.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

So how is it you say you KNOW these things

But Augusts, an actual mason , not relying on anecdotal evidence, second hand information, or supposition, does NOT know?