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originally posted by: beansidheThe Cruithne could have been the Scandanavians though - there's some thought that the Picts came from Denmark. There was a grave of a Pict unearthed not that long ago, I'll need to find that story. The legend was that he was a great Pict, and when his DNA was tested he was Danish.
DNA analysis of the Neolithic woman from Ballynahatty, near Belfast, reveals that she was most similar to modern people from Spain and Sardinia. But her ancestors ultimately came to Europe from the Middle East, where agriculture was invented.
DNA analysis of the Neolithic woman from Ballynahatty, near Belfast, reveals that she was most similar to modern people from Spain and Sardinia. But her ancestors ultimately came to Europe from the Middle East, where agriculture was invented.
originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: Boadicea
I'm fascinated by it too. I'm thinking of Goidel Glas, the father of the Gaels, and son of Nel and Scotia who travelled from Egypt, to Spain and then on to Ireland.
I'd wondered if Goidel Glas' story wasn't meant to have encapsulated the movement of a people rather than a man, and his story was just a way of remembering the main parts. There was a notion in there that he was related to Japheth, son of Noah, if I remember?
originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: neo96
Are you sure you want to know? Anyway, failte cousin, to the convoluted world of your ancestors.
a reply to: Rosinitiate
The first 'invasion' was Cessair, and he brought Alba, Finn etc round about the time of the flood.
Then came Partholon, who slaughters the Formorians, but they all die of plague.
This leaves the Formorians to battle the Nemedians, who come around 20 years later.
Next is the Fir Bolg, with their bags of clay.
Then come the Tuatha de Danaan, the fairy folk.
Lastly the Milesians arrive and drive the Tuatha underground. What they actually said was 'we'll share the land with you - we'll live on it and you can live below it!' ie they slaughtered them. That's my interpretation anyway, of why the Tuatha are linked with the sidhe and the otherworld.
Let me try and find something visual.
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Thanks! So just to be clear, this mythology is isolated to Ireland? Shared on some level with the Scott's?
The name may be based on, and cognate with, Belgae.[5] The Belgae were a group of tribes living in northern Gaul. Some have suggested that the writers merely named a fictional race, the Fir Bolg, after a real group, the Belgae.
Others, such as T. F. O'Rahilly, suggest that the Fir Bolg, Fir Domnann and Fir Gáilióin were real peoples who arrived in Ireland in ancient times. He proposed that the Fir Bolg were linked to the historical Belgae, the Fir Domnann were the historical Dumnonii and the Fir Gáilióin were the Laigin.[9]
Another suggestion, put forward by John Rhys and R. A. Stewart Macalister, is that the Fir Bolg are the Fomorians (Fomoire) under another guise.[10]