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Originally posted by gps777 Albert Pike let �the cat out of the bag in his secret instructions for 30th 31st and 32nd degree Freemasons:
That which we must say to the crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be, by all us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Lucifererian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. In analogical and universal dynamics one can only lean on that which will resist. Thus the universe is balanced by two forces which maintain its equilibrium: the force of attraction and that of repulsion. These two forces exist in physics, philosophy and religion. And the scientific reality of the divine dualism is demonstrated by the phenomena of polarity and by the universal law of sympathies and antipathies. That is why intelligent disciples of Zoroaster, as well as, after them, the Gnostics, the Manicheans and the Templars have admitted, as the only logical metaphysical conception, the system of two divine principals fighting eternally, and one cannot believe the one inferior in power to the other. Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
Try these then
www.cuttingedge.org...
The True god or gods of Freemasonry
The secret name for the god of the Freemasons is �Jahbulon� or �Yahbulon�. This is a compound name taken from �Jehovah or Yahweh� the Christian God, �Bul� from the ancient pagan fertility god �Baal� and �On� from the ancient Egyptian god "Osiris". Albert Pike let �the cat out of the bag in his secret instructions for 30th 31st and 32nd degree Freemasons:
That which we must say to the crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees - the Masonic religion should be, by all us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Lucifererian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. In analogical and universal dynamics one can only lean on that which will resist. Thus the universe is balanced by two forces which maintain its equilibrium: the force of attraction and that of repulsion. These two forces exist in physics, philosophy and religion. And the scientific reality of the divine dualism is demonstrated by the phenomena of polarity and by the universal law of sympathies and antipathies. That is why intelligent disciples of Zoroaster, as well as, after them, the Gnostics, the Manicheans and the Templars have admitted, as the only logical metaphysical conception, the system of two divine principals fighting eternally, and one cannot believe the one inferior in power to the other. Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
This pretty much shows that the Freemasonry doesn�t hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, and believe in a dualistic god / devil balance of power in the
universe, like the pagan Gnosticism. Also since Lucifer or Satan is nothing more than a created and fallen angel according to the Bible, it appears freemasonry elevates him to godhood, worshipping and calling the Devil 'God'. Again remember this isn't an opinion, it comes from the Masonic Authority Albert Pike himself.
Originally posted by gps777
This is as close as i can find to sum up that Christ is not Lucifer for you,you cannot be a True Christian and a Mason sorry to say
Originally posted by Bondi
Originally posted by gps777
This is as close as i can find to sum up that Christ is not Lucifer for you,you cannot be a True Christian and a Mason sorry to say
According to your interpretation. Are you a part of the clergy, and angel, a prophet, a person of divinity
If not then you are not a voice of authority and can merely give your opinion, which is your entitlement, but at least state it is your opinion. Christianity cannot decide on whether Freemasonry is compatible, a recent poll run in the UK produced a vote of approx 6000 to 500 in favour that the two organisation are compatible. This poll was advertised here, on nearly all Christian forum sites and masonic forum sites as well as on radio and on general sites. Does democracy not rule.
Let's face it if Christianity can't decide for itself, no one or group of Christians can definitively say yes or no. And even if it did Christianity has been wrong in the past, the Earth is round
Originally posted by gps777
This is as close as i can find to sum up that Christ is not Lucifer for you,you cannot be a True Christian and a Mason sorry to say
Masonary is totally opposite to which Christ instructs his people
and
www.1john57.com...
Masons will tell you anything to take you away from the truth
Freemasonry teaches men the duty they owe to God, his family, other people and himself. Show me where Freemasonry has any philosophy that is anti Christian. Having read your posts against Freemasonry which are often very long but without much substance I will be susprised.
Gerard
[edit on 7-1-2005 by Gerard]
Originally posted by gps777
NO unclean spirit has authority over a Christian
Originally posted by gps777
Bondi i am saying it is not compatible to Christs teachings and Gods word,which therefore are not compatible to me either hope thats clear enough but i guess not your simply a Mason groupie and not interested in the truth.
Originally posted by Agnis
Excellent post, MA. I�ll print it out right away.
I guess you deserve
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Originally posted by Leveller
ML. I've looked a little at the Greek Mysteries. They're an interesting subject but because of their very nature, it's hard to find good resources for study. Is it possible that you have some good links to websites regarding this subject?
I've read elsewhere that the mystics endowed people like Pythagorus with powers not far removed from those of Christ. ie: he was able to perform miracles such as walking on water. If this is true, is there some link between early Christianity and the earlier Greek Mysteries?
And the Mysteries themselves: what was their basis? Certain parts of the belief system seem to be closely linked to Egyptian religion as you state but was there any other influence that can be found elsewhere?
Originally posted by GLeamer
If this has one thing to do with the High Level Masons ruining this country
or secret society
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Therefore, Buck correctly contends that the problem with our country currently is the tendency of government to ignore the Masonic ideals upon which it was founded.
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