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Revelation 21:8
Parallel Verses
New International Version
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
New Living Translation
"But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars--their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
English Standard Version
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Berean Study Bible
But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."
Berean Literal Bible
But to the cowardly and unbelieving and having become abominable and murderers and the sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their portion is in the lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
New American Standard Bible
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
King James Bible
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21
New International Version (NIV)
A New Heaven and a New Earth
21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
originally posted by: SBargisen
You must be kidding.
originally posted by: SBargisen
We have a pretty clear definition of a murderer, which has been the same for thousands of years. As someone who kills another, which you already know.
originally posted by: SBargisen
Technically, a soldier killing another christian in battle is a murderer in the biblical sense, but not the law sense.
originally posted by: SBargisen
If you kill someone that is of another belief, you are merely a "crusader" and it is actually written in the bible, that people who believe in "different gods" should be stoned to death.
originally posted by: SBargisen
Immoral sex? Gotta be kidding again. Immoral sex is sex out of marriage, or with others (bastard sex) (I know, marriage weren't exactly around back when Jesus allegedly existed.)
originally posted by: SBargisen
An unbeliever? Easy. Muslims, atheist, hindus, I could go on?
originally posted by: SBargisen
Are you joking again? Fcking troll.
originally posted by: VP740
a reply to: Profusion
Supposedly true Christians will not fall into any of those categories. When you're called to believe in Christ, I don't think that's just literal belief. I believe in Hitler as a literal historical figure, but I don't "believe" in Hitler. I don't think Jesus really cares if you literally believe in him but don't believe enough to follow his teachings. In fact if you think Jesus was a fictional character but you love your fellow man and you have gratitude for the gifts of nature, I'd bet he'd welcome you into his club when he's done driving off the false christians.
originally posted by: ketsuko
There is forgiveness, but in order to be forgiven, you have to first be aware of you sin and repentant which means you take responsibility for it and are remorseful for it.
Revelation does not address the repentant but the unrepentant.
Every time I know a Christian is lying to me I want to ask them about Revelation 21:8. But, there a whole lot of other issues brought up in Revelation 21:8. Let's take the verse from the King James version. Who will "have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone"?
originally posted by: Brotherman
David murdered Goliath, he's a murderer along with others, remember the dude from soddom n Gomorrah? He was sexually involved with his daughters, yet god saved him? Solomon practiced sorcery and consorted with demons??? Wtf
Romans 3 ►
King James Bible
God Remains Faithful
(Psalm 147:1-20; Hebrews 10:1-18)
1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. 3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
5But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 8And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
Psalm 116:11
King James Bible
I said in my haste, All men are liars.