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The bible is meant as to be 'metaphorical/poetic' knowledge; a poem if you will.
vhb:The bible is meant as to be 'metaphorical/poetic' knowledge; a poem if you will.
Punisher: Explain to me why you feel this way and why I should agree with you in light that the vast majority of textual scholars both religious and secular disagree with you?i.e. What evidence do you bring to the table?
You do not have any understanding of who the Essenes were; when they lived and continue to be as/in abiding by the sacred Khem Hermes Trismegistus/Egyptian knowledge hidden (for a reason). There are 12 stages of enlightenment; the notebook called the Quabala. Who invented this and was then stolen by whom? Where does your knowledge lie?
Punisher75: Where does your value come into play as a truism that is convincing enough to persuade me to your position?
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
a reply to: beenharmed
What you say is not science; but Magick.
You have no reason to understand my opines. I have a reason to be and for you 'demanding any understanding' of why I exist is not of your immediate concern.
vhb: You have no reason to understand my opines. I have a reason to be and for you 'demanding any understanding' of why I exist is not of your immediate concern.
Punisher75: Firstly I did not demand anything, much less your understanding of why you exist.
What I did do, however was ask what evidence you have to make a claim that the mass majority of peer reviewed scholars in the field of question are mistaken.
Punisher75: If it is an issue of faith, that is fine just be honest about it, but if you have something more tangible that's fantastic, it would actually make this entire conversation worthwhile.
Punishery75: As to my reason to understand your opines, it would be, I thought a pretty reasonable request considering we are on a discussion board. That is after all the point of the thing.
This is a debate forum and a very good one because of the quality of mind the splendid participants offer (that was a hats off). I just question everything; do not put an equation to it is all. There is such as thing as 'personal truth' (acquired knowledge) and without that you have no soapbox to stand upon to force or defend an arguable position.
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
a reply to: beenharmed
Whom are your teachers; beenharmed, they are telling you a truth you believe and wish to share with others? Cool. I appreciate your sharing (yet reserve comment).
originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: Punisher75
The reason it makes no sense to preceding information is because it is a review of OCCULTISM.
The Book of the Dead was practiced...stone levitation and stone conversions using the holy dust in a different ancient procedure to modern time. The ancients did not create nuclear fuel....they used it for levitation of stone, the secret building practices of PHI.
Our holier brother attacked by the occultism was sick and tired of his evil minded brother and his personal pursuits of occultism....had to use the information even though he did not practice....called forced teaching.
He reviewed the PHI condition by evaluation.
He therefore used the circle....applied the angles, via the conditions of his spiritual observations UFO activations.
He therefore used astronomy to self advise the conditions of the attacks.
THE WORD OF GOD therefore like scientific practice, is an applied theory. As GOD creates, the observation had to determine that GOD was being destroyed....the HOLY PHI LIGHT AND SOUND that protected our life...ANGELIC LIGHT SOUND and ANGELIC MASS...atmospheric condition itself.
Hence ANGEL = ANGLE.
He then factored the factors...angles inside of the circle AND FORMED THE WORD OF GOD as a PHILOSOPHICAL review about being attacked, and what the attacks were causing.
He therefore proved to his evil self possessed occultist brother that he was WRONG....he had a fake and artificial memory use and that he WAS POSSESSED....he proved it to him.
In the future the UFO attacks...continued to attack, which proved to my brother that they were not HEALED....they were not a part of the natural atmospheric creation and that they were destroying life....PROOF.
Our brother an occultist...an actual Roman himself, believed when he got attacked and then supported the Christian movement of CHRIST REVELATIONS and then went about murdering the occultists, just like history attests.
vhbFor the same reason the Higgs Boson is not 114 (suggests symmetry) or 140 in mass (suggests Multi-verses) but is exactly in the middle at 125.4. Chaos on the verge of destroying everything at its whim (got to love the universe with its jokes played upon Mankind).
Punisher75: This is not my area of expertise at all. I am sorry but I cannot really comment on this intelligently, as I do not have enough knowledge of the ins and outs of Particle Physics to give a respectable opinion on your comparison.
vhb: This is a debate forum and a very good one because of the quality of mind the splendid participants offer (that was a hats off). I just question everything; do not put an equation to it is all. There is such as thing as 'personal truth' (acquired knowledge) and without that you have no soapbox to stand upon to force or defend an arguable position.
Punisher: Thank you for the compliment.
Punisher: However I think that we may just have to agree to disagree, and hopefully do so in an agreeable manner.
I say this because, I don't really buy into the concept of a "Personal Truth". I believe that what is true is true, regardless of someones view of the circumstances inside or outside their life.
Punisher: Perhaps I am misrepresenting your position on the nature of truth, and if that is the case then of course I can accept correction on your opinion, and have simply misunderstood your position.
originally posted by: Punisher75
originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: Punisher75
The reason it makes no sense to preceding information is because it is a review of OCCULTISM.
The Book of the Dead was practiced...stone levitation and stone conversions using the holy dust in a different ancient procedure to modern time. The ancients did not create nuclear fuel....they used it for levitation of stone, the secret building practices of PHI.
Our holier brother attacked by the occultism was sick and tired of his evil minded brother and his personal pursuits of occultism....had to use the information even though he did not practice....called forced teaching.
He reviewed the PHI condition by evaluation.
He therefore used the circle....applied the angles, via the conditions of his spiritual observations UFO activations.
He therefore used astronomy to self advise the conditions of the attacks.
THE WORD OF GOD therefore like scientific practice, is an applied theory. As GOD creates, the observation had to determine that GOD was being destroyed....the HOLY PHI LIGHT AND SOUND that protected our life...ANGELIC LIGHT SOUND and ANGELIC MASS...atmospheric condition itself.
Hence ANGEL = ANGLE.
He then factored the factors...angles inside of the circle AND FORMED THE WORD OF GOD as a PHILOSOPHICAL review about being attacked, and what the attacks were causing.
He therefore proved to his evil self possessed occultist brother that he was WRONG....he had a fake and artificial memory use and that he WAS POSSESSED....he proved it to him.
In the future the UFO attacks...continued to attack, which proved to my brother that they were not HEALED....they were not a part of the natural atmospheric creation and that they were destroying life....PROOF.
Our brother an occultist...an actual Roman himself, believed when he got attacked and then supported the Christian movement of CHRIST REVELATIONS and then went about murdering the occultists, just like history attests.
Can you provide evidence for any of this?
an you perhaps make a video of levitating stones using the method described?
In addition;
I hope I don't have to tell you that root of the word Angel is the GREEK Aggelos which means Messenger or Delegate.
The Word Angle has its Roots in LATIN angulus, and it means Corner.
So in effect what you are trying to do is connect two words with different definitions from different languages that don't mean anything similar, and connect them to words in a third language?
Really?
SMH
sigismundus:You wrote: QUOTE 'The Gnostic texts were written by the Essenes (Jesus and John the Baptist were both adherents to this form of Judaism).'
Sigismunds: I think there might have been a 'gnostic underground stream' which infected the 'Ossim, (Gk. Essenoi) to a certain extent but the gnostic 'salvation by knowledge' groups in the 1st century CE also influenced Egyptian religion, Mithraism, Greek religion, the Mystery Religions and even normative Judaism, but to say that the later Gnostic texts (e.g. the Nag Hammadi corpus from the late 3rd century) were written by 'Ossim is fallacious...and carries no weight. At least these documents do not line up very closely with the Dead Sea Scroll Covenanters who were ultra orthodox Messianic Jews who revered 'the Teacher of Righteousness' who founded their community c. 190 BCE.
Sig: To stipulate that 'John the Baptist' (R. Yohanon bar Zechariah) and 'Jesus' (R. Yehoshua bar Yosef) were 'Ossim is a possibility but needs clarification - one must always remember that there were at least 24 different splinter groups that branched off the Pharasim, the Tzadukkim, the Samaratim and the 'Ossim in the 1st century CE, so the best we can guess is that both 'John the Baptist' and 'Jesus' were both 'Essenoid' in that they believed in the coming of a Daviddic Messiah, in the Last Judgement, in angels/daemons and holding both the Torah and the Prophets/Psalms as 'defiling the hands' i.e. holy writ.
The ancients did stone levitation and used dust differently to modern occult conversions.
originally posted by: Sigismundus
a reply to: beenharmed
You wrote: QUOTE "The UFO you have caused today is not the same UFO that the ancients caused...for their occultist technique was different to your own. UFO is just a caused body....it is not a science. You might study it as a science, yet your theory proposed from your self possessed mind considerations is as fake as you are..." UNQUOTE
So....according to your line of reasoning (which I am still trying to parse) the unwed Miryam of Galilee became pregnant, how exactly? Is it your position that what we call UFOs were involved? And please be specific as to methodology...and try to stay more on topic if you would, please !
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: beenharmed
What is your obsession with the word "occult"... as if it means some secret organization that has been plotting the destruction of the human race since the beginning of time?
sure it means secretive, but you do realise that almost anything that is outside of "Christianity" is considered occult practices
Anything that has a mystical aspect to it is considered the occult...
New agers have been considered the occult...
sects of Christianity have been considered the occult...
Satanism has been considered the occult...
and on and on...
Your posts are wildly entertaining but I think you take things a bit to far... too much conspiracy perhaps?
It does lead to mental illness you know?