originally posted by: vethumanbeing
a reply to: matafuchs
You do not realize Trump and Sanders are of the same Libertarian Stamp. Trump embodies the far right, Sanders the far left within this ideology. They
should run on an Independent ticket together; if so; could win.
I've been saying the EXACT same thing.
Trump and Sanders, in my opinion, are the least likely, currently "visible candidates", to be heavily affiliated with NWO/Old-Money types. Trump and
Sanders weren't "born into" the "right kind" of political families, in fact their ancestors were immigrants from the lower classes of Europe. Its
actually really too bad they can't be on the same ticket, running as Independents, with Sanders and Trump as President and VP, with people like Ralph
Nader, Jessie Ventura and Ron Paul filling the various cabinet positions (pooling campaign resources, with the intention of actually trying to win, as
a team and not solo).
But if they tried to pull a "hat trick" like that, I'm sure quite a few of them would QUICKLY find themselves at risk of being in a "plane crash" or
on the wrong end of a "car accident".
I also really don't quite understand why some people think Donald Trump is a worse choice than "Clinton part II" or "Bush part III".
Trump is running a Presidential Campaign and a company with 22,000+ employees, that has billions of dollars in real estate holdings. People need to
start giving the guy some friggin credit. In contrast, what other organization, WITH EMPLOYED STAFF, was Obama "running" during his initial
Presidential campaign? NONE, just his Presidential campaign, with some skeleton crew staffers left behind, to autopilot his Senate duties, same goes
for "Bush part II" (just replace the title "Senator" with "Governor").
Although Trump did grow up rich, inheriting money and property from his fathers businesses, the Trump Family is self-made for the most part and do not
seem to be directly connected with NWO/Old-Money types (all the Trumps are Tax Dodgers BTW). Trumps grandfather did not process properly through
Ellis Island, in the late 1800's and had left behind many unpaid debt in Europe by the time he came to America and started his new businesses. What
regualr people don't seem to understand is that folks like Donald Trump and Ross Perot are considered "trash" by the standards of the Romney and Bush
clans types, with family members having held political offices, in the Untied States, as far back as the 1850's. Note, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama
also had no direct family ties to the NWO/Old-Money types. However, they were not nearly as wealthy, nor as independently bold, as Trump or Perot and
eventually all of them did "toe the line", following the orders of the NWO/Old-Money types.
The reality is that Trump will NEVER be accepted as part of the true "Owners of Capital" club because he is the decedent of regular working class
immigrants from Germany, that came to the USA via Ellis Island. Whether voters believe it or not, people like Donald Trump and Ross Perot before him,
are truly, the best chance, regular people have to being represented by someone in office who's family is not beholden to or part of the NWO/Old-Money
types. Although I have not thoroughly checked, it does not appear that Donald Trump nor Ross Perot were ever invited to or attended the Bilderberg
Conference. That's a GOOD sign, not a bad one.
Also there are some other things to consider, if Trump has a REAL chance at winning the republican nomination or somehow gets huge backing as an
Independent, the "Owners of Capital" will simply do what they did to Ross Perot and once that process unfolds he will eventually decide to "willingly
withdraw" from the race.
Also, do people really believe, that if someone like Donald Trump wins the election, that he will be able to do what he wants, as apposed to, what the
"Military Industrial Complex" wants him to do?
Anyone who becomes President of the United States has to "cow tow" to the "Military Industrial Complex" and even Donald Trump is not immune to a
guaranteed "CIA visit" once in office.
Be assured they will pay him a visit, if he ever wins, and like Ross Perot, Jessie Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Obama, he too will be told to
"toe the line" and "play ball", as they dictate. For example, why in the world did Arnold Schwarzenegger need to do ANYTHING along party lines? His
fame and popularity COMPLETELY transcended political parties, yet somehow he was still "answering" to politicians who "in theory" should have had no
affect on his personal life, political career or personal fortune, all of which existed prior to being elected and was held COMPLETELY outside of the
confines or influence of the "Military Industrial Complex".
Also consider this angle, there is a huge assets difference between someone like Mitt Romney, who has a $250 million net worth and Ross Perot with a
$5 billion net worth (Donald Trump has a net worth of $4 Billion). Yet, someone like Romney was a shoe in for party nominations. As I alluded to
above, its NOT the money nor the popular vote that matters, people like Mitt and Jeb Bush are government insiders and both come from families that
always have been government insiders. That was not the case at all with Perot and the same goes for Trump, hence neither of them can be elected
regardless of the popular vote or the public's desires or how much money they spend.
Ross Perot dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance either, nor simply about his daughters wedding:
Mr. Perot offered no evidence,
only quoting friends and an unidentified "top Republican." "I can't prove any of it today," he said on tonight's CBS News program "60 Minutes." "But
it was a risk I did not have to take," he added, "and a risk I would not take where my daughter is concerned." Mr. Perot accused the unidentified
C.I.A. employee of being hired to tap into his computerized stock trading program to prevent him from having the money to revive his
I think Ross Perot would have done a much better job than ANY of the "good ol' boys" that we've gotten as Presidents since then. Again, Perot
dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance, nor was it simply about his daughters wedding. He was likely threatened in some way that none
of us can imagine. Which is most likely why he has he been so quiet, for the last 20+ years. In the end Trump and Snders will be no different, but,
if either decides to run for President and somehow wins, best case scenario, it will be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan all over again.