Billboard asking people to skip church on Christmas stirs controversy

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Funny how they say being good isn't tied to religion, but then say people should skip church as if it angers the ignorant and hypocrite Atheist, and by stating it, destroys any possible consideration by others that their statement was valid. They proved their message was one made of ignorance of their own spirit and character which doesn't seem able to see the illogical words of their own statement.
Every Christian already knows just going to church is not a ticket to eternal life in abundance, and if Atheists really cared about their fellow man, they would simply accept their church going neighbors with care and compassion, and maybe love, And if not, why the HELL NOT?? Stop being the stick wedged up your own holes and let some light in, and the belligerence out. Jesus Christ Almighty!

I bet if Athiests went to a church and saw how simple and nice people are who don't go around tossing incitful words towards everyone else, they might see they really need to throw all that trash baggage out and let people live like they are always demanding others allow them to live. Leave people alone for once and tend to your busted up selves before trying to change others.
If you cant do that, then it shows you are the one holding the all the red flags.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Funny how they say being good isn't tied to religion, but then say people should skip church as if it angers the ignorant and hypocrite Atheist, and by stating it, destroys any possible consideration by others that their statement was valid.

Believers trying to think atheist always comes out as ridiculous.

The message is simple, and directed at "closet atheists". Those who still go through the motions, for whatever reason (family, parents, co-workers, etc).

Trying to make it more then that is just stupid.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

For what? Maybe you have been living in a glass bubble, under a rock, on Mars. It should take you all of 5 seconds to find someone who has done thing that they need redemption for.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

Where is the love, compassion, acceptance, understanding for us atheists.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

Where is the love, compassion, acceptance, understanding for us atheists.

More logical fallacies. You made further comments that you can't back up and now change the argument again, to yet another argument that was never made.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

Where is the love, compassion, acceptance, understanding for us atheists.

More logical fallacies. You made further comments that you can't back up and now change the argument again, to yet another argument that was never made.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

What?

Not taking me seriously on abuse of atheists?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

Where is the love, compassion, acceptance, understanding for us atheists.

More logical fallacies. You made further comments that you can't back up and now change the argument again, to yet another argument that was never made.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

What?

Not taking me seriously on abuse of atheists?

I will say it one more time.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Raggedyman

I am a Christian because I wasn't good and I believe what I deserve isn't good
My promised reward is forgiveness and I know I don't deserve that

Do you even realize how negative that sounds?

But, Hey! If it works for you.

No matter what you have done, you can be redeemed. There is no hole too dark for the light to fill.

So negative ...

Oh please, give it a rest.

I was 65 when I stepped out of the "God circle". It's not like I didn't give it a go.

When something makes no sense, it makes no sense.

God and religion is man made.

Nice logical fallacy. You made an ignorant comment, I corrected it, and since you had no response you simply changed the argument to something it was not.

What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant. The message that you are NEVER beyond redemption is not a negative one, and just because you want it to be will never make it so.

Redemption?

Really?

For what?

The only person responsible for me, is me.

Good thing God agrees. You are responsible for you, not Him. Just like a child is responsible for their actions, even if a parent is willing to step in and save them from themselves.

Where is the love, compassion, acceptance, understanding for us atheists.

More logical fallacies. You made further comments that you can't back up and now change the argument again, to yet another argument that was never made.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

What?

Not taking me seriously on abuse of atheists?

I will say it one more time.

Can you show me where I said anything about not loving atheists?

Can you show me where you did?

Anyway, preaching to me about God is kind of ridiculous.

This thread is about an atheist billboard.

I like the atheist billboards. All of them. It is important they reach the audience they are designed for. That audience needs to know they are not alone. They have support. There are others like them.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Jesus died to set sinners free from sin
The whole world is broken and falling apart very quickly
You want negative, pick up the paper, watch the news.
Isis, Russia turkey, guns, terrorists, murders, the list is endless

Negative, look around, just look around

There is no promise of peace and happiness on earth
There is a promise of peace and happiness after earth, that's the positive

Or should I pretend life is all candy, cuddles and joy

Maybe I should be positive when I watch the news, watch the slaughter, watch army's confronting each other, maybe I should just be happy and enjoy it all
Be positive and pretend it doesn't effect me, pretend I don't care, that's healthy, just become mindless

I tried it, it didn't work

My hope is in Jesus, not pretending happiness

Lifespans the world over are longer than they have ever been.
Disease and starvation are at record lows.
This is the first time in human history where there hasn't been any real war, and even few battles are going on.
Violent crime has been steadily dropping all over the world.
Charity is at record highs.
Political systems are more transparent and less corrupt than any time in history.
Several diseases have been wiped out.
New advances in science and mathematics are happening all the time.
Travel is becoming easier and easier.
Nearly everyone on the planet has unlimited access to the worlds collective knowledge through the internet.

And I could continue. What you see as the end times I see as the pinnacle of human civilization. There are challenges to be sure, we don't live in a perfect world but times just keep getting better for the planet as a whole.

originally posted by: Annee
Can you show me where you did?

Anyway, preaching to me about God is kind of ridiculous.

This thread is about an atheist billboard.

I like the atheist billboards. All of them. It is important they reach the audience they are designed for. That audience needs to know they are not alone. They have support. There are others like them.

When I said any atheist no matter what they have done is not beyond redemption. Sounds like love and compassion to me.

Now we can say I don't have to show you anything, you made the claim I was against love for atheists, it's up to you to prove I said it, not on me to prove I did not. Just because it's easy to do I decided to prove it, that doesn't mean you haven't used another logical fallacy.

All you have done is non stop logical fallacies to support a biased agenda.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

This thread is about an atheist billboard.

Redemption is not in my vocabulary.

If it's something you choose to believe, fine. Keep it to yourself.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

When I said any atheist no matter what they have done is not beyond redemption. Sounds like love and compassion to me.

Believe or be burned.

Hmm. Yeah some great compassion.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

This thread is about an atheist billboard.

Redemption is not in my vocabulary.

If it's something you choose to believe, fine. Keep it to yourself.

If you want to think you can do something that makes you so worthless there is no hope for you, you are welcome to believe it. The thread can be about anything in the world, you responded to a post and said the idea of hope and redemption no matter what you have done is negative. If you want to think there is no redemption for you and you are hopeless you are welcome to. Don't claim hope is negative, and hopelessness is not.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

When I said any atheist no matter what they have done is not beyond redemption. Sounds like love and compassion to me.

Believe or be burned.

Hmm. Yeah some great compassion.

If your father loved you and wanted your love back and you refused to give it, and no matter what you did he said he would bail you out and you refuse to talk to him, do you expect an inheritance? Is it not compassion that you can be a complete prick to your father your whole life, and he will still take you back and give you everything?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If your father loved you and wanted your love back and you refused to give it, and no matter what you did he said he would bail you out and you refuse to talk to him, do you expect an inheritance? Is it not compassion that you can be a complete prick to your father your whole life, and he will still take you back and give you everything?

Would your father who loves you hurt you if you refuse to love him back?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If your father loved you and wanted your love back and you refused to give it, and no matter what you did he said he would bail you out and you refuse to talk to him, do you expect an inheritance? Is it not compassion that you can be a complete prick to your father your whole life, and he will still take you back and give you everything?

Would your father who loves you hurt you if you refuse to love him back?

God is not hurting anyone. I will take your response to mean you agree with me since you could not refute my post.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

God is not hurting anyone. I will take your response to mean you agree with me since you could not refute my post.

So you do not believe in hell?