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originally posted by: MadRob
It's scaled up so why would it break?
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: MadRob
I've always wondered about this picture. Does anyone know the back story to it?
Yes. If you read reallllly carefully (no snark intended there, it's buried in the text and almost unnoticeable) it's a sculpt of what the femur of a 9 or 10 foot tall person might be. Problem is, nobody that tall could actually stand with a femur like that (it'd break off under the stress of the body.)
originally posted by: Marduk
originally posted by: stonerwilliam
What if the atmosphere was different then so the earth could support giant creatures and plants
Just a thought
back then being what, 3000 years ago, yeah the world was completely different then, there wasn't any internet...
just one giant skeleton, anyone ?
Maybe longer 5000 to 10.000 years ago there are 8000 year old ruins in my country every where but the invading christians were quick to cover up many things in many countries they came to
In a book called conquista de mexico there is a sentence that says the bones of the giants were more numerious than the stars in the sky
I believe they were ground down and used for fertiliser just my 2 cents
originally posted by: MadRob
It's scaled up so why would it break?
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: MadRob
I've always wondered about this picture. Does anyone know the back story to it?
Yes. If you read reallllly carefully (no snark intended there, it's buried in the text and almost unnoticeable) it's a sculpt of what the femur of a 9 or 10 foot tall person might be. Problem is, nobody that tall could actually stand with a femur like that (it'd break off under the stress of the body.)
3. YAYALI, THE GIANT
The Giant walked from below. He shouted as he journeyed up the mountain, shouted all of the way. He shouted to the people as he searched for them, shouted all around the hills.
Chipmunk answered him. Chipmunk told the people that someone was coming up the mountain shouting. "Perhaps he comes to tell us something," said Chipmunk. "I shall meet him." Chipmunk said to his wife, "I think your brother comes. I shall meet him, for I think he comes.
It was raining heavily when Chipmunk went to meet the newcomer. Chipmunk called to him, "Come, tell us who you are." The Giant answered Chipmunk by saying, "There is my meat." Chipmunk again answered the Giant's call, for he thought that his brother-in-law was coming.
Chipmunk at last realized that the newcomer was not his brother-in-law, and he said to himself, "I have found someone. I have met someone. He is not my brother-in-law." When Chipmunk saw the burden basket on the back of the Giant, he knew that he was not his brother-in-law. Chipmunk said to himself, "I do not think I will go anywhere now. I do not think I will be able to reach home." Just then the Giant approached him and asked him where he was going. Chipmunk replied, "My assembly house is over there." The Giant said, "Go ahead and I will go with you."
Upon arriving at the house, Chipmunk told the Giant to enter ahead of him, while he obtained wood and built a fire. The Giant insisted, however, that Chipmunk take the lead, saying that he was not a member of the family. "You are the owner of the house," said the, Giant. "You lead into your own house. I am not the owner of it." Chipmunk demurred and asked the Giant to go ahead. "Take the lead, or you will freeze," he said to the Giant. "You have been in the rain and have become wet. I will build a fire for you."
Chipmunk's insistence was of no avail. Again the Giant said, "You take the lead. You are the owner of the house." Then Chipmunk, to save further argument, led the way into the house. The
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Giant followed him. As they approached the door, the Giant reached into his basket, securing a stone. He threw the stone at Chipmunk, striking him on the back and killing him.
After he had killed Chipmunk, the Giant told Chipmunk's wife to help him bring in the meat. He then made himself at home and married Chipmunk's widow. He cooked Chipmunk, the owner of the house, whom he had killed. He told his new wife to eat of Chipmunk's flesh after he had cooked it. She said, "You eat it." The Giant insisted, "You eat it, you eat it."
After the Giant left the house, his wife (Chipmunk's widow) dug a hole in the ground. She placed in the hole her daughter by Chipmunk. She fed the little girl with deer meat.
The Giant returned at sundown. He had in his basket many people, whom he had killed. When he entered the house, he said to his wife, "We will not starve. We have plenty of meat." The woman told the Giant to eat the human flesh himself. She cooked deer meat for herself. She ate the deer meat. The Giant ate the people whom he had killed.
The Giant's wife cooked deer meat, with which she fed her daughter, whom she had hidden in the pit. She did not wish the Giant to see her daughter, for fear that he might eat her.
As the Giant departed the next morning, he said to his wife, "You have a better husband than you had before. He obtains more meat than your former husband, Chipmunk. I go now to get you more meat." He proceeded into the hills in search of more people. He told his wife before he left, that he would be back at sundown. As he departed he rolled a big boulder against the door, so that his wife might not escape. He rolled large boulders against both ends of the assembly house, and also one over the smoke hole at the top of the assembly house, where the smoke emerges. He closed the doors tightly with large boulders. After he had closed the doors, he went into the hills, to capture more victims. He returned with a load of people in his basket. He had captured many large, fat people for his wife. He rolled the boulders aside, and entered the house.
While he was away, his wife had cooked deer meat. The Giant wished to feed his wife upon fat people. He told her to eat the flesh of fat people. She said, "Yes,'' but instead she ate deer meat. The Giant thought that she ate the fat people, but instead she ate deer meat. He threw away some of the human flesh, because he could not eat it all. Again he obtained more fat people and cooked them. He
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told his wife to eat the flesh of the fat people. He said, "If you do not eat them, I will kill you." He said, "I think you have a very good husband. He always obtains plenty of meat, when he hunts. He never misses a person with his stone." Again he returned with a large load of victims, whom he cooked for his wife. He cooked, and he cooked, and he cooked. When it became dark he danced. He was so tall that his head projected through the smoke hole of the assembly house.
The Giant's wife gave birth to two boy babies. Both of them were little giants. She wished to kill them, but she feared that the Giant would avenge their deaths. She fed them and they grew. All the while she kept Chipmunk's daughter in the pit. She fed her continually with deer meet. By the Giant, she bore two little giants.
When the Giant departed for the day, she took her daughter from the pit, and held her in her lap, while the two little giants slept. She cried all day, when the Giant was away. She mourned for poor Chipmunk. She feared the Giant, but she could not escape, because the boulders, which the Giant put against the doors, were too heavy for her to push away. So each day she sat in the house and cried.
"You eat them. This is the meat which I cooked for you. You eat them. This is the best one. I selected it for you." The woman replied, "Yes." Then the Giant danced. he danced. He danced. His head went through the smoke hole, when he danced. When he felt happy he danced, his head going through the smoke hole.
He told his wife, "Care for my sons. Don't lose them, Care for my sons. Do not fear hunger, for I will always bring you plenty of meat. I am always sure to obtain meat when I hunt." He went into the hills again in the morning to capture more women and boys and men. He killed everybody, old people, young people, girls, and men. He killed so many that he filled his basket in a very short time. His wife, however, had plenty of deer meat which Chipmunk had obtained for her.
Every night, when the Giant came home, he danced. After he had danced, he cooked the meat for his wife, giving her old men and old women. He took for himself the young people. When he came home, he brought pine nuts with his victims. The old white-shelled pine nuts, that were worthless, he cracked and gave to his wife, "Eat these pine nuts. Here are plenty of pine nuts. You will not become hungry, if you stay with me. Thus he spoke to his wife, when he came home each night. He said to her, "Eat these pine nuts, for I
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perceive that you are hungry." His wife said, "Yes." However, she deceived him, for she did not eat the pine nuts. When he was not looking, she threw them away. She threw them away, when he was not looking. At the same time, she made believe that she ate the pine nuts. She ate only pine nuts which Chipmunk had obtained for her. She did not eat those which the Giant brought to her. Each time that the Giant went away, she ate from her own stock of pine nuts, which Chipmunk had collected for her.
The old women and the fat women that the Giant obtained, he brought to his wife; also those women who were pregnant. He said to his wife, "Eat. Eat well." His wife replied, "Yes, I am eating them." Yet all the time she deceived him.
Again he went into the hills to hunt people. He travelled all over the country in his search. When he returned, he brought a large load of people. Upon his arrival, he cooked the old women for his wife. Then he danced outside of the assembly house. Afterwards he danced inside. His wife did not eat the old women whom he cooked for her. She said, "Yes, I am eating," but she always deceived him. She worried every day, for fear that the Giant would kill her. That which he cooked for her she put into a hole, making believe, however, that she ate it. Instead, she ate deer meat. The Giant thought that she ate the persons whom he cooked for her.
The deer meat, which she cooked each day while the Giant was absent, she fed to her daughter in the pit. Each day, when she took her daughter from the pit, she cried. She felt sorry for the girl, because her father had been cooked in the fire. The thought of Chipmunk's sad end depressed her and made her cry all day, while the Giant was away. When the Giant returned in the evening, she hid her daughter in the pit. She herself lay over the pit, so that the, Giant would not find her daughter. She sat over the pit, so that the Giant would not take the girl. The two sons of the Giant lay in the corners of the house. The Giant changed them from corner to corner, when he came home. The boys never cried. They laughed all the time. That is all that they did.
Chipmunk's brothers below dreamed about him. One of them said, ''I think I will visit him. I will see how he fares. I dreamed that he was sick." So spoke one of Chipmunk's brothers after he dreamed about him. He told no one that he was leaving, but proceeded secretly into the mountains. He did not follow the regular trail, but went through the brush, passing through the high
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mountains. He spoke to no one of his proposed visit. He did not hasten, but travelled slowly toward his brother's home.
At last he arrived at Chipmunk's assembly-house, he said to his sister-in-law, "I am coming. Why are these large boulders against the door?" Then his sister-in-law answered him from within, saying, "Come in. The Giant killed your brother, He closes the door with those large boulders each time he goes out." Thus did his sister-in-law answer him, when he arrived at her house.
Then he rolled aside the boulders at each end of the house. His sister-in-law said to him after he entered, "The Giant killed your brother. Just see us. There are the Giant's two sons." Her brother-in-law then inquired about her daughter. "Where is my brother's girl?" he, said. The woman replied, "She is in this hole. I did not want the Giant to see her." Thus spoke his sister-in-law, when she answered him.
Chipmunk's brother asked his sister-in-law when the Giant would return. She said, "Sometimes he returns after sundown, sometimes before sundown. Today he went far and will not return until tomorrow morning."
Then her brother-in-law told her to crush some obsidian. He said, "You can go home. The Giant has many brothers. If they overtake you, and try to catch you, while you are on your way home, throw the crushed obsidian in their faces. I shall not go. I shall remain here."
She crushed obsidian and placed it on a deer hide. After she crushed it, her brother-in-law told her to start for home. He warned her especially not to lose the obsidian. "If they catch you," he said, "you can use it. Throw it in their eyes." He then proceeded to dig holes in different directions.
Following his advice she started. Meanwhile he dug holes, one, toward the south, one toward the east, one toward the north, and one toward the west, He dug them so that he might conceal himself and dodge from one to the other in case he were pursued. He made holes all around the assembly house, both inside and outside. After he had finished digging the holes, he did nothing. He rested and walked about outside of the assembly house.
He thought about the Giant and wondered when he would return. He went into the hills and cut a manzanita stick, sharpening one edge of it. He worked upon it all day, making it sharp. His sister-in-law
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told him to be careful with it. He asked her what the Giant did when he came home. She told him that the Giant always danced, and that every time he danced, his head projected through the smoke hole, his head projected through the smoke hole at the top of the house. Chipmunk's brother said, "All right." He finally finished sharpening the manzanita stick, making it very sharp.
Then he walked around, he walked around. While he watched the Giant came over the hill. He said to himself, "I think that is he coming now." He stood outside and watched the Giant. As the Giant approached the house, Chipmunk's brother stepped inside. The Giant saw him and said, "There is another victim. There is another victim." The Giant was glad that he had another person to kill. The Giant followed close behind him into the house.
Chipmunk's brother had killed the two young giants. He gouged out their eyes after he killed them and threw their eyes into the fire, putting one in each corner. Before his sister-in-law had left, he had asked her where the young giants kept their hearts. She had told him, "In the ankle," and that is where he hit them with the stick, when he killed them. After he had thrown their eyes into the fire, he went outside. The young giants were in each corner beside the fire. The two young giants were dead.
Chipmunk's brother now talked to the Giant. He asked him, "What do you do first, when you come home?" The Giant replied, "I dance. Just watch me dance."
Then Chipmunk's brother went into his holes and came forth in different places. The Giant tried to catch him and followed him about, but Chipmunk's brother was too quick for him and dodged into the holes. The Giant chased him around the assembly house. Every time that the Giant neared him, he jumped into a hole, appearing again in another part of the house.
He told the Giant, "You cannot catch me unless you dance. After you dance, I will let you catch me. I want to see you dance first."
Chipmunk's brother stayed outside, while the Giant danced. He shouted at the Giant and said, "Dance more. Jump higher through that smoke hole. I like to see you dance."
The Giant did as Chipmunk's brother told him. While he danced, Chipmunk's brother with his manzanita stick climbed on top of the assembly house. Suddenly he struck the Giant across the neck, decapitating him. The head rolled down close to the spring near the house
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continued,
The story didn't seem this long
originally posted by: Rapha
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
Um...wasn't it common to express the importance of individuals by portraying them larger? I don't think that's to be taken literally.
Then paintings of the 'fat git' King Henry VIII should be so big that no other humans can be fitted into the painting.
However, there he is, exactly the same height as other people of all different classes.
You know, when the giants return though the portals when the veil collapses, its going to be so much fun shouting to the denialists; 'what giant, your seeing things'. Then the giant eats them alive. Munch, munch, munch.
originally posted by: Rapha
originally posted by: Marduk
just one giant skeleton, anyone ?
How can you ask that 'arrogant' question if your own avatar has any validity ?
originally posted by: MadRob
It's scaled up so why would it break?
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: MadRob
I've always wondered about this picture. Does anyone know the back story to it?
Yes. If you read reallllly carefully (no snark intended there, it's buried in the text and almost unnoticeable) it's a sculpt of what the femur of a 9 or 10 foot tall person might be. Problem is, nobody that tall could actually stand with a femur like that (it'd break off under the stress of the body.)
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: stonerwilliam
The atmosphere was no different than now 3 KA, 8 KA or 30 KA.
(etc - excellent explanation)
originally posted by: Blarneystoner
a reply to: Byrd
What about the Karankawa people? It's said that they averaged 6' - 7' in height.... and they lived on the Gulf Coast in what is now Texas. You're in Texas... you didn't know this?
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: Blarneystoner
a reply to: Byrd
What about the Karankawa people? It's said that they averaged 6' - 7' in height.... and they lived on the Gulf Coast in what is now Texas. You're in Texas... you didn't know this?
Karankawa were not that tall. The Spanish depict themselves as being taller than the Karankawa.
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: stonerwilliam
The atmosphere was no different than now 3 KA, 8 KA or 30 KA.
(etc - excellent explanation)
We should also add that the bones of those giant animals were MUCH different than bones of cows or whales or other quadrupeds. They are, in fact, VERY lightweight and similar to bird bones (though incredibly thick.)
originally posted by: peter vlar
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: stonerwilliam
The atmosphere was no different than now 3 KA, 8 KA or 30 KA.
(etc - excellent explanation)
We should also add that the bones of those giant animals were MUCH different than bones of cows or whales or other quadrupeds. They are, in fact, VERY lightweight and similar to bird bones (though incredibly thick.)
Excellent point. Not only was the skeletal structure and composition markedly different than that of modern mammals but the dispersal of air sacks throughout was a huge part in allowing such large creatures to maintain appropriate levels of oxygenation in their blood. If an organism of that size were to rely solely on 2 lungs it wouldn't work. Trying to say that humans should be able to have uninhibited levels of growth because dinosaurs reached such massive sizes isn't even apples and oranges. It's grapes and tractors.
originally posted by: Harte
I see you haven't met Marduk.
Finally, he killed Kingu and used his blood to create humans as servants of the gods. In recognition of his power, the other gods built a great temple to Marduk in the city of Babylon.
originally posted by: Rapha
originally posted by: Harte
I see you haven't met Marduk.
Finally, he killed Kingu and used his blood to create humans as servants of the gods. In recognition of his power, the other gods built a great temple to Marduk in the city of Babylon.
Read more: www.mythencyclopedia.com...
In other words, Marduk is a pure evil slave driver. Hitler / Stalin would be so proud of this alien negative entity.
originally posted by: Rapha
In other words, Marduk is a pure evil slave driver. Hitler / Stalin would be so proud of this alien negative entity.