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originally posted by: DAVID64
We want to look out for our children right?
And there's the "guilt" card, rearing it's ugly head. "Do what I think is right or you're a bad parent"
I eat meat, my kids eat meat and you can keep the holier than thou attitude.
Just playing. Gah
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: ConMi27
So you want to eat children?
I said more children.
That's the whole point though. You should watch the video. He discusses how TYPE ONE diabetes, that children and adults have, can be CURED and has been PROVEN to be cured after diet change. If that's not a godly miracle, then I don't know what is. And if that doesn't make you want to change your lifestyle, then my point is moot because you can't make people want to care about themselves. sadly
originally posted by: onthedownlow
'This is science, after all'. It seems that science can be manipulated to fit any agenda. A statistical sampling of no group in particular and, viola, proof! Meanwhile, people are dying of cancer and any number of diseases, and we get don't eat meat? What are we all worried about, is it because the average lifespan has been stagnate for a decade? Here's one that science missed, we all die.
I'm also referring to E. Coli, H1N1, H1N5, Mad Cow Disease, the use of high levels of estrogen in animals which is a major cause of cancer in women,
originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan
originally posted by: ConMi27
I full agree. You would just think at some point, people would start to care about themselves enough to want to live longer, be healthier, find a humble spot and stay there. Or else what's the point to life?
originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan
originally posted by: ConMi27
So here's the deal: We all know now that eating meat in general causes cancer.
So my question is: Why are YOU still eating it.
Capitalism = Its ALL about money(power), nothing else. EVERYTHING WE DO, IS JUST CRAZY!!! but we need to make money, forget about everything else...
We are keept to busy, to think, so we dont have time to realize this stuff, or we are to busy to take it seriously, we spend our time earning money, so we can buy the stuff your talking about, cause we dont have enough time to earn enough to buy something better, so we make compromises, so we got time to earn more money...money, money, money, money, money, money etc. and then some more money
Your answer is money!
S&F
You would think that, right? I dont get it either! But i also realize, that i myself, do all kinds of stupid things i know aint healthy for myself, iam getting better, and try to get the best food i can, but i sometimes buy crap anyways
I might be a slow learner, but iam getting there, ...slowly
Some would say life aint worth living, if you cant enjoy it - but i think there is a more healthy solution to allmost everything in life, so that aint that
ETA - I just remembered an experiment some scientist did - i will try to find if i can
But some scientist, couldnt understand why, when animals where used in experiements, when given the choise between clear natural water, and water with drugs, they chose the drugs!
He thought, these experiments are made in cages, and not in the animals true enviroment, so gave some rats an enviroment, like they have in nature, and gave them the same choise, but now, they chose the clean water
So when free and happy, the choise was clean water
When trapped and depressed, the choise was drugs
Ever heard of that experiment? Cause that might answer some questions
ETA2 - Rat Park - Wiki
Alexander's hypothesis was that drugs do not cause addiction, and that the apparent addiction to opiate drugs commonly observed in laboratory rats exposed to it is attributable to their living conditions, and not to any addictive property of the drug itself.[1] He told the Canadian Senate in 2001 that prior experiments in which laboratory rats were kept isolated in cramped metal cages, tethered to a self-injection apparatus, show only that "severely distressed animals, like severely distressed people, will relieve their distress pharmacologically if they can."[2]
originally posted by: ringdingdong
I think the science is garbage. Too much fat or carbs? Pfff you realize there's only fat, carbs and protein as macronutrients, right? The issue is caloric excess, little exercise, and micronutrients deficiencies.
Not buying this junk. How many of these studies used grass fed meat? How many ate herbs, spices, veggies that could mediate the negative effects of the meat?
originally posted by: CallYourBluff
Oxygen causes oxidation, which also kills.Stop breathing and save your life.
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: ConMi27
I'm also referring to E. Coli, H1N1, H1N5, Mad Cow Disease, the use of high levels of estrogen in animals which is a major cause of cancer in women,
E. Coli, caused by bacteria , most likely from the foodstuff the animals ate or from food not prepared correctly (i.e. cooked)
H1N1, H1N5, both viruses and not caused by the animal. Similar to the flu or cold
Mad Cow Disease , again , a natural occurring disease. HIGHLY preventable from spreading disease to a human.
As far as the androgen/estrogen , it is from preparing it w/o gloves. Even as a kid I was taught that.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: ConMi27
Just playing. Gah
That makes one of us.
originally posted by: ConMi27
He discusses how TYPE ONE diabetes, that children and adults have, can be CURED and has been PROVEN to be cured after diet change. If that's not a godly miracle, then I don't know what is. And if that doesn't make you want to change your lifestyle, then my point is moot because you can't make people want to care about themselves. sadly
originally posted by: Agartha
originally posted by: ConMi27
He discusses how TYPE ONE diabetes, that children and adults have, can be CURED and has been PROVEN to be cured after diet change. If that's not a godly miracle, then I don't know what is. And if that doesn't make you want to change your lifestyle, then my point is moot because you can't make people want to care about themselves. sadly
There is no cure for type 1 diabetes: there is no way to replace the insulin producing cells that have been destroyed in the pancreas. Once they are destroyed there is no solution, the pancreas doesn't make new ones and we have not yet been able to make them in a lab.
Type 2 diabetes can be fixed with diet and exercise because it is caused by insulin resistance (and not even with all patients).
Please provide the evidence that shows type 1 diabetes has been cured. Thank you.
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: ConMi27
Again , , as I stated E.Coli is a bacteria. The stuff you stated is EXACTLY to the word the same meaning I posted. It is a "naturally" occurring bacteria. If you eat contaminated plants , you have just as much chance of infection by E.Coli as the animal did. And , did I not state from undercooked or ill prepared food? And that goes for vegetables as well as meats. The H viruses you mentioned are VIRUSES. Look the meaning of virus up .Has nothing whatsoever to do with eating meats unless the animal was sick in the first place. Then cooking may even destroy the virus. Heat has a way of doing that, dont cha know ? But why take a chance ? ANNNNDDDD you can get H1N1 or H1N5 just by being in proximity to any animal that has the virus.IT IS A FORM OF THE FLU for gosh sake .
Could this happen when uncomposted manure is applied to a field, or when water contaminated with livestock waste is used to irrigate a crop, or when deer wandering through a field or geese flying over it leave behind some fecal droppings? Could some of the pathogens from the manure, polluted irrigation water, or droppings from wildlife soak down into the ground and become available to the roots of the plants?
And it was the same potentially fatal type of E. coli that killed three people and sickened more than 200 in the 2006 outbreak linked to baby spinach grown in California. The likely culprits in that outbreak were wild pigs or livestock that wandered through the field or perhaps nearby irrigation water that had been contaminated by livestock or wildlife. But even with matching DNA samples, the exact way the pathogen actually spread to the spinach remains unknown.