The Ultimate Guide to Aircraft & Spacecraft in Ancient Scripture

a reply to: jeep3r

if you include the Bible as ancient text:

“5 They come from a far country, from the end of the heaven: even the Lord with the weapons of his wrath to destroy the whole land.”
Isaiah 13:5

“4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and make thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.”
Obadiah 1:4


Hundreds of cases of ufo/abductees calling on Jesus to end their abuse have been documented.
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Youtube: Ancient Aliens Debunked
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Couple of thoughts.

Just who is supposed to be using these machines that run on smoky and noisy jet or rocket fuel? Aliens? Seems like maybe aliens would have a more sophisticated way of getting around that hot burning rocket fuel.

And even if it is aliens -- or some kind of super-advanced lost civilization -- flying these things around, where exactly are the oil wells and refineries and processing plants they used to manufacture the rocket/jet fuel? After all, it isn't something you can make in a still in your back yard.

Other than that, if we're going to take these accounts as fairly accurate, then let's not assume they're confusing "smoke" with "clouds." Big difference.

So, sure, whatever. Skepticism and stuff.

originally posted by: Verum1quaere
a reply to: jeep3r

if you include the Bible as ancient text:

“5 They come from a far country, from the end of the heaven: even the Lord with the weapons of his wrath to destroy the whole land.”
Isaiah 13:5

“4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and make thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.”
Obadiah 1:4

Neither quote has anything to do with any extraterrestrials. I also note that you choose not to include context.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
I also note that you choose not to include context.

Harte

Isn't that standard practice when quoting scripture to support an agenda?

It's threads like these which drew me to ATS in the first place, it's good to read something on here that doesn't have to do with Muslims, racism or bashing on religion.

a reply to: Harte

Since your such an expert on biblical scripture, why don't you enlighten us.

originally posted by: Konduit
It's threads like these which drew me to ATS in the first place, it's good to read something on here that doesn't have to do with Muslims, racism or bashing on religion.

a reply to: Harte

Since your such an expert on biblical scripture, why don't you enlighten us.

Sure: link.

Let me take this opportunity to apologize for assuming people would possibly possess the scintilla of curiosity necessary to motivate them to look into it for themselves.

Harte

originally posted by: jeep3r

The ancient astronaut theory may not be everybody's darling but fact is: many ancient texts seem to describe aerial phenomena that, from today's perspective, could be interpreted as aircraft, spacecraft or other high-tech devices not known to the observers of the time..

Top stuff Jeep3r and all those accounts of stationary clouds, sky thrones, fiery chariots, flying rolls, pillars of light, platforms, vessels and fiery wheels in the sky really sound pretty intriguing - especially when the objects are described as exhibiting rapid, prolonged flight; hovering; ascending or descending.

Found this interesting article about stories from the Bible taken in UFO context -there are many other examples at the link but there's an intriguing account below of Moses following a cloud to Canaan.

Following A Cloud to Canaan

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When Moses led the Isrealites out of slavery in Egypt he certainly didn't do it alone. From the account recorded in the book of Exodus, it seems he had a lot of help from above, and this help appeared in a very unordinary way.

Now remember that when the history of that journey was recorded thousands of years ago, the author didn't have modern words like "UFO" or even "airplane" to describe what was witnessed. Think about it, how would you describe a UFO if you couldn't use any modern words? I'd imagine you'd compare it to something that people would be familiar with. Even today people refer to "cigar shaped" or "saucer shaped" or even simply "triangle shaped" UFOs.

With this in mind, let's look at the first account of the strange object that appeared to lead the Isrealites shortly after they left Egypt:

Exodus 13: 21-22 (NIV)

By day the LORD went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night. Neither the pillar of cloud by day nor the pillar of fire by night left its place in front of the people.

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The object is described as a "pillar" - certainly a common visual picture for anyone who lived during that time. But what would we think today if we saw this object that is compared to a pillar of cloud and fire?

Looking at the event from today's perspective, I think that a large object like this that could move on its own would likely be some type of vehicle. Given the lack of roads, this vehicle probably would have had to travel off the ground - either hovering or flying - to be this mobile.

It's interesting how the object is described as a "cloud" during the day - you'll see this visualization used later in the story too. Do you think that maybe the craft actually used a smoke screen or mist to hide itself so it would appear less foreign to the people? Maybe the occupants were using this tactic to keep everyone as calm as possible as this huge group moved out of Egypt.
As far as describing the object as a pillar of fire at night, how else would you describe an object that was illuminated if you weren't familiar with electric lights?

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Also some text here about other biblical descriptions of flying objects which sound very strange (unfortunately the link doesn't work anymore) :

Descriptions That Verify a Flying Guiding Vehicle


♦ The escort that accompanies the travelers is called a "pillar of a cloud" by day and a "a pillar of fire" by night. The word pillar is translated from `ammuwd, pronounced, am-mood; a column as standing; also a stand, i.e. platform. This means that this could either be a column or a platform that had the appearance of a cloud in the daylight and when the sun went down, it lit up. And, it is staying close to the people, in other words, hovering. When considered in light of the many other descriptions, replacing the word platform where pillar appears seems a more logical choice.


♦ The platform comes directly between the Hebrews and the pursuing Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:19)


♦ The platform harassed the Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:24)


♦ The "glory of the Lord appeared in the cloud" that leads the Hebrews. (Exodus 16:10)


♦ The lord ascended on Mount Sinai with great lights beaming into the night sky, shaking the mountain greatly and broadcasting very loud sounds with increasing volume. (Exodus 19:18 -20, 20:18)


♦ People were fearful of the vehicle. (Exodus 20:18)


♦ The platform/cloud descends and hovers. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Numbers 12:5)


♦ The platform/cloud ascends. (Exodus 40:36)


♦ God broadcasts his voice from the platform/cloud. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Psalms 99:7)


♦ The people follow the platform wherever it led them and was always with them. (Exodus 40:36-38, Numbers 9:17-18, 10:34, Nehemiah 9:19)


♦ The cloud provides shade and light. (Numbers 9:16)


♦ The platform/cloud hovers above the group for days, months and even up to a year. (Numbers 9: 22)


♦ The cloud takes off and lands. (Numbers 10:11-12)


♦ The vehicle protects the people. (Numbers 14:14)


♦ The platform/cloud scouts ahead for places that the Hebrews will rest. (Deuteronomy 1:33)

Cheers.

a reply to: jeep3r

Thanks once again. I always thought that many of the things ancient people described in their accounts were primitive depictions of advanced technologies.

a reply to: jeep3r
The ancients by description and also archaeological evidence (ancient Temple stone melt)-(India 8000 year old civilization nuked)-(archaeological evidence of human life millions of years ago), define that just like modern humans they could perform science and acts of conversion.
The modern scientists use their Temples as Nuclear Power Plants.
The ancient scientist used their Temples with Pyramids....for the levitation of stone.

Psychic/spiritual reckoning as personal advice to allow a human to use science and apply science was known through holographic imagery. Psychics have demonstrated that they can view and read past life human lived memory.
Ancient advice stated that human life lived on an origin Earth that was crystalline stone and converted/combusted it, why human artifcats are found inside of coal beds. Oil inside of stone said to be caused by ancient deceased life...if life is found as evident inside of coal...then obviously Planet Earth existed in origin with forestry.
To know about levitation of stone, is to have been witness to levitation of stone...as PHI sound O removal of stone bodies.
Mars said to have had its own face of stone removed.

Modern day scientists are using the same signals that ancient science used for conversion of stone matter....uranium and plutonium. The UFO orbitals are formed as nuclear light PHI sound signals. The signal in the atmosphere has to be created to allow the natural sealed uranium to alter its crystal into a fuel. This is why the atmosphere gets changed as a converting PHI light sound wavelength...to allow the natural uranium at the ground level to alter via the condition of a new signal.
If anyone cared to study atomic orbitals, you would witness the same form of alien UFO bodies in the orbital family.
The atmosphere therefore was keeping uranium sealed....hence the atmosphere as light/sound had to convert to allow uranium/plutonium to be converted....this is why UFO fallout increased into a huge witness....previously the fall out related to experiments involving radiation.....and the time events do relate to experiments.

The atmosphere as light and sound supports our own natural life. Our spiritual life gets recorded in the atmosphere as a natural recording...as psychics attest. Scientists increase the amount of radiation. Radiation -radio transmissions change and take recordings of recordings...forming ghost imagery and also artificial spirits....using our own natural light and sound to form.

Therefore when you create unnatural artificial light and sound....then unnatural artificial spiritual beings also get formed from the atomic/nuclear converting.

As nuclear fuel is not natural to Earth life.....but is natural in out of space...is it any wonder to any of us that alien unnatural spirit manifestations have been caused by a holding constant of an unnatural light and sound. This sound forms nuclear fuel and then the fuel is burnt. Therefore the alien witness would be conditional to the change of light and sound itself.

We have also witnessed crop flattening and UFO atomic/nuclear PHI sound formations on the ground. CROPS after all have been combusted....used for a fuel.....this is also obvious.

Science now wants a collider for a plasma fuel.

The only plasma present at the ground state is all of us and Nature.

Do you really wonder why human life is being attacked by alien manifestations...when fall out of the atomic O PHI light sound is obviously the condition that we have inherited. Also the ancients also did science via their own information....technology does belong to the human mind who considers and then applies changes to natural light and sound.

Natural light and sound supports a healthy life...a healthy mind...a healthy cell and healthy blood.

The basic supporting system for this lifestyle is the stone of Earth.....a radioactive healed burnt light body...once plasma, but is now stone.

Why would the ancients have strange markings in their Temples, if they did not know themselves that the stone was a radioactive body...when radioactivity itself demonstrates that it forms strange signal designs.

As Earth is considered to be a small cold Sun...once a plasma body....nuclear fuel involved in a plasma converting form of cold upper atmospheric signal....allowing nuclear fuel to exist unnaturally on Earth. This information would give us false evidence to the natural light and sound that actually exists on Earth.

Scientists who have studied the UFO by self evidence claim that they know that most of the UFO evidence is caused by atomic/nuclear science...and yet they also know by evidence that some form of bodies have been created as a form of materialized matter and alien. How else does anything manifest that is considered alien...artificial...spirit, when an artificial signal....science is being applied as a constant/fixed state? Science of course is causing conjuring or manifestations of evil presences and also that of matter itself.

Wanting to form plasma on a planet where plasma became stone is of course manifesting fake and artificial fall out bodies in the condition in which fall out occurs. An unnatural light sound/atmospheric converting signal for a nuclear fuel (not natural to Earth)......increased Sun and Star radiation due to a thinning of the atmosphere....and the ground state power plants using the information for fuel....converting a stone body into dust using its crystal to convert into a fuel....changing the natural water.

Water and oxygen changes in the atmosphere affect all life.

This is the reason why fake materialized bodies have also fallen out of the atmosphere in an unnatural communion involving space dust...nuclear.....the converting atmospheric signal....a fake reaction allowing nuclear fuel to exist at the ground state and all of the attacks caused to life because of nuclear science.

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: jeep3r
The ancients by description and also archaeological evidence (ancient Temple stone melt)-(India 8000 year old civilization nuked)-(archaeological evidence of human life millions of years ago)

What? There were no nucular weapons 8,000 years ago, no Indian temples were ever nuked, and there most certainly is no "archaeological evidence of human life millions of years ago". Modern humans have only been on the scene for 200,000-300,000 years, and there isn't a single bit of evidence indicsting otherwise. The homo genus has been around for just shy of 3 million years, but not humams as you're thinking of them.
[quotes]The modern scientists use their Temples as Nuclear Power Plants.
I'm not even sure what this means.

The ancient scientist used their Temples with Pyramids....for the levitation of stone.

The majority of known pyramids around the world were used as tombs, not temples, and even the few that were part of temple complexes were not involved in any imaginary 'levitation of stone'.

Psychic/spiritual reckoning as personal advice to allow a human to use science and apply science was known through holographic imagery.

No idea what this is supposed to mean.
[quite]Psychics have demonstrated that they can view and read past life human lived memory.
Demonstrated how and to whom? The gullible and uneducated masses, perhaps, but no self-proclaimed psychics have ever been able to demonstrate their 'powers' in any legitimate, scientific fashion.

Ancient advice stated that human life lived on an origin Earth that was crystalline stone and converted/combusted it,

Name one ancient culture that said such a thing.

human artifcats are found inside of coal beds.

No they aren't.

Oil inside of stone said to be caused by ancient deceased life...if life is found as evident inside of coal...then obviously Planet Earth existed in origin with forestry.

I'm assuming English isn't your first language? Anyway, if you're saying what I think you are, yes, there were many forests on Earth in the distant past.

To know about levitation of stone, is to have been witness to levitation of stone...as PHI sound O removal of stone bodies.

Again, no idea what you're talking about here, but stone does not levitate, and phi is a ratio, not a sound.

Mars said to have had its own face of stone removed.

Who said this?

I was going to address the rest of your post, but from this point, it descends so far into barely-intelligible fantasy that it's not worth the effort.

A word of advice: Stop reading, watching, and filling your head with so much fringe garbage, and pick up a physics or history book sometime; Someday you might be glad you did.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance I never said there was nuclear weapons, I stated that the Temples/Pyramids were using a sound technology that failed, for it caused an atmospheric reaction.

If you want to quibble about atmospheric reactions, then how about the UFO condition....and how this condition existed by textual explanation in ancient times....along with an increased fall out review since modern day nuclear conversion was applied?

Indus Valley
Rense.com. Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that “Indian sacred writings” are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. “The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees,” says Ganguli.
“Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people’s hair falling out.


At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal.

These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The ancient review of science is a religious spiritual philosophy that describes the condition of reactions as WARS. Unlike us the ancient did not have the modern technology or experiments.....they obviously gained their own realizations of science through the conscious spiritual review.

Around the 8000 year old nuclear event is a consideration that has also been witnessed in Egypt...glass melt on the sand.

When the first atomic bomb exploded in New Mexico, the desert sand turned to fused green glass. This fact, according to the magazine Free World, has given certain archaeologists a turn. They have been digging in the ancient Euphrates Valley and have uncovered a layer of agrarian culture 8,000 years old, and a layer of herdsman culture much older, and a still older caveman culture. Recently, they reached another layer of fused green glass.
David Hatcher Childress

s8int.com... Human anomalies found in coal
Coal formation Carboniferous Period - known as the first coal age - which spanned 360 million to 290 million years ago

Human beings can "self combust".

What causes self combustion....nuclear reactions.

Nuclear reactions being done in modern atmospheric conditions causing UFO fall out.
To convert light and sound has to alter as a condition aligned to the fusion of crystal.
Uranium/plutonium changed into fuel by converting crystal into a liquid for a fuel.

The ancient information studied by many scholars states it identifies UFO information, the same condition that modern technology is causing.

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Discussing the acoustic levitation of stone.

The biblical description LEVI....the ancient secret brotherhood of Philosophers called Stone Masons...why have a secret brotherhood regarding the stone?

The ancient wisdom the Philosophy of the stone....fake is it?

Psychic study has been done by both Russian science and American and millions of dollars spent. If science does not think it worth studying or probable as a scientific review, then why did they study it?

Edgar Cayce and his society has many studies to review.....about Egypt and Atlantis.

Psychic information gained from personal past life records proven in murder cases as correct information without any preceding information given.They were selected from 30 psychics who were handed photographs of the victims of three solved crimes and asked to come up with as much information as they could. The psychics who made the grade were consistently accurate across all three cases and were able to reveal information known only to the families concerned. When it came to making Sensing Murder, the psychics were told only that they were working on an unsolved murder.

"Initially they were given a piece of jewellery, which belonged to one of the victims, then they were given a photograph of the victims and that's it," the producer says. "From those two photographs they revealed an extraordinary amount of information. They never met, were driven to the vicinity of the murder and were asked to find the exact location where the murders took place
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originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance I never said there was nuclear weapons, I stated that the Temples/Pyramids were using a sound technology that failed, for it caused an atmospheric reaction.

You said a city was "nuked." I guess you meant it was put in the microwave then?

originally posted by: beenharmed Indus Valley
Rense.com. Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that “Indian sacred writings” are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. “The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees,” says Ganguli.
“Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people’s hair falling out.

Ganguli was one of the translators of the Mahabharata. He wasn't an "historian." He died in 1908 so you can see that the Rense article clearly misleads readers - pretending that Ganguli was interviewed.
There is no radioactive city, people are digging at Mojenjo Daro while I'm typing this.

That old Rense article is a fabrication which had been utterly refuted a thousand times - several of those times right here at ATS.

Harte

Don't forget the good old Classical canon.

Phaeton (Apollo) flying round the world in his fiery chariot. No, wait, that was the Sun. And Selene's was the moon — no, wait, Selene drew the moon in her chariot. Never mind, flying chariots anyway. And all those gods whizzing about the place. Mercury and his winged sandals — obviously the cat was an alien with a hoverboard. Medea and her dragon-drawn flying Studebaker would have been a more primitive technology, of course.

Flying chariots used to be popular all over. The Norse gods really went for ’em. Thor had one, Freya had one that was drawn by cats. Scary, that. Everybody knows cats can teleport but I didn't know they could fly. Explains a lot.

originally posted by: Astyanax
Don't forget the good old Classical canon.

Phaeton (Apollo) flying round the world in his fiery chariot. No, wait, that was the Sun. And Selene's was the moon — no, wait, Selene drew the moon in her chariot. Never mind, flying chariots anyway. And all those gods whizzing about the place. Mercury and his winged sandals — obviously the cat was an alien with a hoverboard. Medea and her dragon-drawn flying Studebaker would have been a more primitive technology, of course.

Flying chariots used to be popular all over. The Norse gods really went for ’em. Thor had one, Freya had one that was drawn by cats. Scary, that. Everybody knows cats can teleport but I didn't know they could fly. Explains a lot.

I'm a huge fan of Stargate too! I love how they made Thor a skinny grey alien that would kick the butts of all the other gods.

a reply to: Harte

Disinformation is also a regular used advice on the internet, which is why many archaeologists wrote their own books listing all of the information that was kept hidden as evidence of ancient science and why it destroys life on Earth.

Ownership of science belongs to the elitist organization who claims ownership of life and civilization and trade practices. Science and powers are therefore a huge support of their ownership.

Why would these human beings want the public to know about what they themselves realized...when it would mean that they would have to stop scientific practices, for it destroys life. They have no consideration for humanity...and only consider greed and ownership as their status. Their total life review determines this is true as to the condition of their community abuses against human life itself.

It is easy to see the use and application of disinformation for you begin to attack the information with inane comments about the information, trying to take the reader away from actually considering the information to be factual.

a reply to: Astyanax

UFO activation is being witnessed in our own modern times. The consideration any of us should make is why? Especially when the ancients depict the same sort of information as we are now seeing.

What advises us all is that the ancients did science, and then we should question what form of science were the ancients doing.

The science and converting information called religion, and religion depicts information of powers and Gods that create.

The science formed the brotherhoods, who were by self evidence secretive and Philosophized amongst their own selves...the common human was not privvy to this information for it belonged to the High Priest status of spiritual powers...ownership of powers and the ability to use those powers...SCIENCE.

The secret brotherhood called the Philosophy of the Stone (nuclear condition) to be the Masons...building secretly with stone. The ancient review of Tibetan Monks demonstrated that stone was lifted by sound.

The pyramids...sound...the Temple structures as a plan look similar to the design of the inside of a transmitter or radio.

Therefore it is obvious that the ancients did science of the stone for building....levitation of stone.

Changing the nuclear or fusion of stone above that of natural fusion.

This of course would also change the holiness of the heavenly body surrounding Earth causing it to activate into a condition of fall out. This would be the review, to gain a light/sound to cause natural fusion to change.

Natural fusion exists because the atmosphere allows is to remain fused. So to change fusion you have to change the atmosphere.

The ancients changed the atmosphere...got attacked....advised by literature of the attacks so that the future humans would not do the same. The ancient archaeological evidence demonstrates many cultures were involved in a form of nuclear event. Some say a meteor...yet there is no meteor evidence. UFO fall out though is a common condition to review of the "nuclear gas" forms of hits on the Earth.

If you make statements that these sounds do not hit the Earth...you see flattened forest in Russia after an experiment and also the crop circles flattening the crop. Crops used for a fuel of combustion.

Therefore the evidence is real and it is why the ancients knew about UFO also as it is science...caused by human beings.

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: Harte

Disinformation is also a regular used advice on the internet, which is why many archaeologists wrote their own books listing all of the information that was kept hidden as evidence of ancient science and why it destroys life on Earth.

Don't suppose you could name some titles for these books written by archaeologists, could you?

originally posted by: beenharmedOwnership of science belongs to the elitist organization who claims ownership of life and civilization and trade practices. Science and powers are therefore a huge support of their ownership.

Sorry, no.

Ownership of science belongs to those with the curiosity, patience, ambition and mental acuity enabling them to learn enough to be able to understand what science says.

Obviously, you are yourself suffering a glaring lack in one or more of the above.

originally posted by: beenharmedWhy would these human beings want the public to know about what they themselves realized...when it would mean that they would have to stop scientific practices, for it destroys life. They have no consideration for humanity...and only consider greed and ownership as their status. Their total life review determines this is true as to the condition of their community abuses against human life itself.

I see.

Sorry, I guess I didn't realize I was trying to communicate with a full-blown nutjob.

originally posted by: beenharmedIt is easy to see the use and application of disinformation for you begin to attack the information with inane comments about the information, trying to take the reader away from actually considering the information to be factual.

Demonstrating that incorrect information is indeed not factual certainly would tend to make a person stop considering that information as factual.

Well, at least a sane person.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

Are you implying yourself to be insane then?

Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race by Michael A. ... Michael Cremo lectures to academic, popular, and scientific audiences around the world in a continuing challenge to Darwinian evolution

Evolution belongs to scientific belief as a theory imposed upon the society.

You state...
Ownership of science belongs to those with the curiosity, patience, ambition and mental acuity enabling them to learn enough to be able to understand what science says.

Science belongs to the human beings who belief in self power.....and who believe that have the right to wield power.

Natural life belongs to humanity, and you remove natural life via the condition of egotistical ownership of self status. Curiosity "killed the cat".......information brought it back....but was is still the same cat?

Ambition also belongs to elitism those who own conditions and enforce conditions that the natural inherited human life was given no ownership of.

Whilst you believe in your own mental acuity, what about natural life...natural living and the natural support condition that advises our consciousness about the conditions to which we belong?

A human scientist says...I want power and I want power for the purpose of invention...money making and the status.

How was this status gained....by evil humans in our past...occultists and evil minded selves.

Uranium for instance was a light/crystal sound that supported all life on Earth and its evolution.

Science changed the evolution and took uranium and other products into an unnatural light signal condition and life began to deteriorate. All life evaluations belonging to the natural condition demonstrate huge changes and yet you still consider yourself to be mental acuity? What about the review of self possession?

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: Harte

Are you implying yourself to be insane then?

No. I'm not implying anything. I'm asserting that this:

originally posted by: beenharmed They have no consideration for humanity...and only consider greed and ownership as their status. Their total life review determines this is true as to the condition of their community abuses against human life itself.

is raving lunacy.

originally posted by: beenharmedForbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race by Michael A. ... Michael Cremo lectures to academic, popular, and scientific audiences around the world in a continuing challenge to Darwinian evolution

Evolution belongs to scientific belief as a theory imposed upon the society.

And you buy into the Fundamentalist Hindu Creationism of the Hare Krishna, who published that book, and it's fellow follower Cremo, who cites nothing younger than 80 years old in his book, and most of it is over a hundred years old.

Perhaps you like to imagine that Science has made no advances since 1900. Welcome back, polio.

originally posted by: beenharmedYou state...
Ownership of science belongs to those with the curiosity, patience, ambition and mental acuity enabling them to learn enough to be able to understand what science says.

Science belongs to the human beings who belief in self power.....and who believe that have the right to wield power.

Natural life belongs to humanity, and you remove natural life via the condition of egotistical ownership of self status. Curiosity "killed the cat".......information brought it back....but was is still the same cat?

Ambition also belongs to elitism those who own conditions and enforce conditions that the natural inherited human life was given no ownership of.

Whilst you believe in your own mental acuity, what about natural life...natural living and the natural support condition that advises our consciousness about the conditions to which we belong?

I have a dog and a turtle. I don't mind if they don't use their minds to find new insight into the nature of reality. I do mind, however, when a human, who (it is to be assumed) has a mind, refuses to use it in any constructive way.

originally posted by: beenharmedA human scientist says...I want power and I want power for the purpose of invention...money making and the status.

Ignorant idea, since most scientists - the vast, VAST majority of them, make less than the average accountant. Money is power. Nobody ever told you that?

originally posted by: beenharmed
Uranium for instance was a light/crystal sound that supported all life on Earth and its evolution.

It's like you cant write more than 7 sentences before drifting back into lunacy.

originally posted by: beenharmedScience changed the evolution and took uranium and other products into an unnatural light signal condition and life began to deteriorate. All life evaluations belonging to the natural condition demonstrate huge changes and yet you still consider yourself to be mental acuity? What about the review of self possession?

You make a good argument for the return of the "ignore" function on ATS.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

You imply that science itself did not cause disease and mutations to human life and Nature?

Why is it that a healthy human being with the same DNA structure can live a healthy life....and then another human being display mutated cellular inheritance?

Science.

The condition of Science itself imposes a review that a human being thought about....considered to use....invented the purpose to use and then applied an act that involves converting. Converting of matter changes the natural evolution of healing....being the cooling of radiation itself. Cooled radiation changes light and sound.

If you convert then you increase the radiation amount and also change light and sound.

When the extra irradiation is active...it attacks human life. Human inception the act of chosen sexual intercourse is the reason why mutations occur as a scattered effect in life.

We therefore demonstrate that a natural life once lived as a healthy self with a correct brain function, chemical response and was beautiful to look at.

You review humanity as an archaeological evidence as a pre existing community and also nuclear events that changed the life.

You then review the human condition....a natural living being who chooses to do science and convert the evolution of radiation.

You then review the human for who they are.....a human who attacks others natural awareness for the purpose of keeping secrets by implying that their natural spiritual awareness is less aware than a mutated awareness self possessed by the radiation that formed their own cellular/brain and chemical self?