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I think these descriptions and cases raise the question of what has really been observed back then.
originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: jeep3r
I think these descriptions and cases raise the question of what has really been observed back then.
There was definitely something going on, that's for sure. The only part I have trouble with is when fire and smoke are described. Surely interdimensional or space faring beings don't use solid fuel for propulsion, would they?. IDK.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: jeep3r
That's a well put together OP but I have to say on the flip side that it is all down to interpretation , both of the original texts and our interpretation of what was meant by the author.
Maybe ET did visit in the past but I'm not sure these texts our reports of that , we can't even be sure they are of real events.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: jeep3r
That's a well put together OP but I have to say on the flip side that it is all down to interpretation , both of the original texts and our interpretation of what was meant by the author.
Maybe ET did visit in the past but I'm not sure these texts our reports of that , we can't even be sure they are of real events.
Fire and smoke would be evidence of rocket engines, which carry both their own oxygen and combustible fuel. Those can operate in the vacuum of space and in an atmosphere.
originally posted by: stormcell
There are some records from Chinese history:
* The Chinese Annals relate that Emperor Shun (2258-2208 B.C.) constructed not only a flying apparatus but even made a parachute about the same time Daedalus built his gliders.
* The Chinese poet Chu Yuan (3rd Century B.C.) wrote of his flight in a jade chariot at a high altitude over the Gobi Desert towards the Kun Lun Mountains. He accurately described how the aircraft was unaffected by the winds and dust of the Gobi, and how he conducted an aerial survey.
* In the early part of the fourth century Ko-Hung wrote about a helicopter in China: "Some have made flying cars with wood from the inner part of the jujube tree, using ox leather straps fastened to rotating blades to set the machine in motion."
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"The Ramayana describes the 'vimana' as a double deck circular aircraft with portholes and a dome. It flew with the 'speed of the wind' and gave forth a 'melodious sound'. Now that sounds more advanced than the jets we see now - what were they?"
Mug Ruith (or Mogh Roith, "slave of the wheel") is a figure in Irish mythology, a powerful blind druid of Munster who lived on Valentia Island, County Kerry. He could grow to enormous size, and his breath caused storms and turned men to stone. He wore a hornless bull-hide and a bird mask, and flew in a machine called the roth rámach, the "oared wheel". He had an ox-driven chariot in which night was as bright as day, a star-speckled black shield with a silver rim, and a stone which could turn into a poisonous eel when thrown in water.