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Can you kill a human simply because your government tells you to?
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
I'll flip burgers.......
originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: Belgianbloke
to me the rotten meat is the soldiers not doing their job which they signed up for.
i'm glad they do not have to watch my back as i would most likely end up dead if i had to rely on this sorry excuse for soldiers
we are NOT at war.
war was never declared
So more to the point when you realize you are not killing "bad guys"
you better turn sides or you are committing crimes.
originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: DeathSlayer
again as you fail to understand if you join the military you are expected to kill if you are asked/ordered to
that is a job requirement and that is fact ,just like your job flipping burgers your job requirement is to ask if i want cheese on it.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Reverbs
we are NOT at war.
We aren't at war with a country which is the typical way a war is fought, but we can also be at war with groups who see fit to try and destroy the US any way they can.
Here is an interesting article defining the war on terror.
www.npr.org...
Please take special note of:
and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
possibly the collapse of the Soviet Union would have been the moment of inspiration for the war hawks to come up with their grand plan . Fall of the Berlin wall ...
where in history did it all go wrong? At what point did the USA become the tool to spread chaos and destruction in the world? Seriously tho...
I think that excuse was tried at Nuremberg but didn't wash .
If the president and your superior officers give you an order you follow it.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Rosinitiate
Please take special note of:
And take special note of this...
and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
If the president and your superior officers give you an order you follow it.
We are not at war, well not yet at least.
1war
noun, often attributive ˈwȯr
: a state or period of fighting between countries or groups
: a situation in which people or groups compete with or fight against each other
: an organized effort by a government or other large organization to stop or defeat something that is viewed as dangerous or bad
I think that excuse was tried at Nuremberg but didn't wash .
And yet we continue to hunt Nazi war criminals. But that's right, I forgot, do as I say not as I do.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
This is one hell of a charge to lay at the feet of President Obama.
I really don't care for Obama....But Murder ?
Better have some damn good evidence...
originally posted by: whyamIhere
This is one hell of a charge to lay at the feet of President Obama.
I really don't care for Obama....But Murder ?
Better have some damn good evidence...
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Rosinitiate
And yet we continue to hunt Nazi war criminals. But that's right, I forgot, do as I say not as I do.
And were those who did the killings of innocent jewish civilians being attacked by those innocent civilians...No they weren't.
Amazing that you think the rounding up of innocent civilians just for being Jewish is the same as the US doing drone strikes against those who have vowed to rid the world of the US.