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originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: NewzNose
Your right, nowadays cops have become delusional, they have this false belief when confronted with reality. They have become self-centered, hair trigger thugs in black! They lack nobility, and have no soul for life.
I believe what we are seeing is "program" killings, they have become cold-blooded, heartless, wound-up, brainwashed killers
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Stop putting words into my mouth. I never stated anyone was "worthy of bullets".
McDonald was well within the 21 feet danger zone of the Tueller drill.
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Because people whacked out on drugs, especially pcp, are often unphased by bullets or severe injury. Once a threat is deemed lethal, they engage with full power to eliminate that percieved threat.
originally posted by: hammanderr
Not an execution. Criminal running down the middle of the street, high on PCP, possibly armed with a knife. Did you want him to run into a woman and her children first, or the police? Society pays cops to handle idiots like this, so 120lb housewives don't have to.
Get your head out of the clouds, the real world is down here.
(1) McDonald was brandishing a knife in his right hand as he walked down the middle of the street while facing numerous police officers. It must be assumed that he was being non-compliant with lawful orders to drop the knife, get on the ground, and the usual law enforcement protocols for such circumstances. Note that the police have a legal duty to enforce public safety, and cannot simply allow a knife-wielding PCP addict to wander up and down the public streets. Only one person was making a free choice that evening, and that was McDonald. He chose, as they say, poorly.
(2) McDonald does not walk directly away from the officers, but rather angles no more than necessary to keep a distance of 10-12 feet (typical width of a car lane) between the officers and himself. This is well within the 21 foot distance that these officers would have been taught as part of their Tueller Drill training. At a distance of 10-12 feet the knife armed McDonald could be on the officers stabbing them with his knife in well under a second. Officer Van Dyke would be well aware of both this fact and the grievous injuries that a knife can cause.
(3) The moment before the first shot appears to be fired McDonald is walking down the dashed-white line of the road, thus parallel to the officers, and he suddenly blades his upper body towards the officers. This movement would be consistent with an intent to charge at the officers with his knife. It is quite possibly this threatening movement, knife still in McDonald’s hand, that induced Van Dyke to begin firing.
(4) Officers are taught to continue firing at a deadly threat until the threat has been neutralized. Even after McDonald fell to the ground he was still in control of his movements and he still possessed the knife, thus he was still an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm to any officer who got close enough.
(5) Neither I nor the outraged activists can possibly know, based solely on that dash cam video, whether an officer was close enough to McDonald to be in imminent danger of his knife because the angle of the dash cam changed such as to obscure the entire scene of the incident where the police were located. An officer could have been within two feet of the still-armed McDonald, perhaps approaching to handcuff the suspect, when the last pistol round was fired at McDonald. We just don’t know, not from this video.
(6) At some point an officer approaches close enough to McDonald to finally kick the knife away from the suspect. This is the first time in the encounter that McDonald has been disarmed of his deadly weapon. There is no evidence that any additional rounds were fired after the moment that McDonald was finally divested of his deadly weapon.
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: HighFive
My very first post in this thread was about cover up. Cover up by the media.
My original point was never addressed. Instead I was attacked by your little lynch mob and forced to defend my positition.
Of course many here think they can just attack me and my positition and I should not have the right to defend myself.
Typical left fascists.