US House of Reps votes to suspend Syrian/Iraqi refugee program

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Kali74

Except they got enough votes from the Dems that the president can't veto it

Congress will have the say

It'll never pass. The end.

If it passes Senate, Obama will veto it. It'll get kicked back to the House where an override vote likely wouldn't pass with a 2/3 majority. If overridden in the House, it's back off to the Senate where another 2/3 majority is required. Based on historical precedent, the odds of a presidential veto being overridden are roughly 25 to 1 against I believe.

originally posted by: crazyewok

Long as they are vetted then sure.

The Process of Vetting doesn't read peoples minds or intentions, Man Woman or Child. Its a big risk!

a reply to: TSOM87

Well not really as there have been no attacks yet from syrian refugees.

All the attacks so far have been from radicalised Europeans.

Its a risk sure and for countrys like germany who are just letting anyone in probably a big one.
But for countrys letting those in through proper channels and in a controlled way its likely only a small risk.
And seeing as our countrys had a hand in this mess we do owe some help.

So France the country that has suffered two terrorist attacks in the span of less than a year continues to welcome in refugees and refuses to surrender to ISIS...yet France is made fun of for being a weak country...perhaps it might be time to replace France with the US in all those jokes.

We have surrendered to ISIS, thankfully our president will veto this bill

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: TSOM87

Well not really as there have been no attacks yet from syrian refugees.

All the attacks so far have been from radicalised Europeans.

Its a risk sure and for countrys like germany who are just letting anyone in probably a big one.
But for countrys letting those in through proper channels and in a controlled way its likely only a small risk.
And seeing as our countrys had a hand in this mess we do owe some help.

Just days after Governor Rauner vowed to not allow any more refugees into Illinois, the Chicago city council passes a resolution allowing them into the city.

Chicago has long been a sanctuary city for illegals, but now they will also be a sanctuary city for potential terrorists. The streets of Chicago are already run by gangs, cartels and illegals. Add more chaos with the refugees, and it makes for a perfect terror target.
The police are already over stretched. There is no way they will be able to track these people, especially in the chaos of a city like Chicago.
It’s another 9/11 waiting to happen. Be prepared.

a reply to: crazyewok

...they have just arrived.

Radicalised Europeans who spent time in the same Area where the Refugees are comming from.

Again, Proper Channels or Controlled Ways don't read peoples Minds or Intentions. Big Risk!

We are helping, our Foreign Aid and Navy are contributing to the welfare of Refugees in the Area.

www.tennessean.com... GOP leader: Round up Syrian refugees, remove from state:
Last month, mere weeks before the attack in Paris, FBI director James Comey said at a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing that the federal government does not have the ability to conduct thorough background checks on all of the 10,000 Syrian refugees that the Obama administration says will be allowed to come to the U.S.www.allenbwest.com...

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok

Don't worry. We know you compassionate Brits will take more of them to make for it......

Long as they are vetted then sure.

Least we dont cower in fear at some child refugees.

That would be fair to say if I were seeing more children than fighting age men.

Why can't we take care of them in refugee camps around Syria? Why is it absolutely vital to bring them permanently inside the US?

Is there any good reason to bring them here? I can think of several not to:

1. Terrorists could hide amongst them. Maybe not right now, but it will happen.
   
   
2. Even if they're not terrorists, it's frequently the 2nd generation muslims who become radicalized. So 20 years from now we'll have Tsarnaev v2.0 blowing people up.
   
   
3. You're eventually going to have to make them citizens and give them the vote. They don't share any of the values of Americans. They're anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-free speech, anti-free religion, anti-everything-the-west cares about.
   
   
4. If we take all the "good, peaceful ones," then who's going to rebuild Syria when the monsters fighting the other monsters are dead? You can't rebuild a nation with the leftovers of monsters.
   
   
5. It's more expensive.
   
   
6. Your other countrymen don't want you to. How about compromising with them by caring for them overseas?