ENOUGH ! The US government funded Afghan Mujahadeens, US funded ISIS, anyone see the pattern yet

Al-queda was aided and funded by the CIA...

Experts debate whether or not the al-Qaeda attacks were blowback from the American CIA's "Operation Cyclone" program to help the Afghan mujahideen. Robin Cook, British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001, has written that al-Qaeda and bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally 'the database', was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians

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IS is a result of the illegal war in Iraq.

Ohh and

Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons, equipment given to Yemen

Pentagon loses track of $500 million in weapons, equipment given to Yemen


Ohh, you may say potato, i say TOYOTA!

Just last year it was reported that the US State Department had been sending in fleets of specifically Toyota-brand trucks into Syria to whom they claimed was the “Free Syrian Army.”

The Mystery of ISIS’ Toyota Army Solved

And lately about 500 oiltrucks got bombed to smithereens by Russia. Allegedly they are used to transport stolen oil.

Revenues from oil smuggling are a key part of IS financing.

Russian jets 'hunting' IS oil tanker trucks
Could this be related to the recent drop in oil prices?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LastInLine1

Russia has never been defeated. Ever.

I guess Germany didn't really beat them in WW1 since technically the Russian army deserted.

a reply to: LastInLine1

The United States has never supported al Qaeda or ISIS; unfortunately, in the fluid political situation of the region, the groups it has supported often end up switching their allegiance or tactics. Washington should have learned from their experience in Afghanistan that meddling in Iraq or Syria can only end in disaster.

a reply to: paraphi

Are the US really funding ISIS? Do you have any evidence apart from believing it must be the case?

NO, but because some headline that says so without actual evidence is their proof.

originally posted by: paraphi
Are the US really funding ISIS? Do you have any evidence apart from believing it must be the case?

a reply to: Asktheanimals

I guess Germany didn't really beat them in WW1 since technically the Russian army deserted.

The Japanese beat them just a few years earlier, one of the factors that contributed to the revolution. Obviously, my statement was intended as a joke. There are a few members here who are very creative in their revision of history.

a reply to: intrptr

What does an American helicopter observing an enemy convoy prove? The US needs the intelligence and Daesh is apparently in too much of a hurry to engage it.

If We Want To Stop Terrorism, We Should Stop SUPPORTING Terrorists

Lots and lots of links in there showing that the U.S. government has supported terrorists.

a reply to: LastInLine1

Is it true that the european countries which are taking in refugees are financially compensated by soaudi arabia? If this is true people can be sure there is an agenda of disturbing the peace behind it. Well, that is my opinion..

Here we go again... a nwo attempt to bring eoropean civillians fear in their homes. Maybe it will escalate in such a proportion there will be a demand for soldiers in the streets to 'protect' us.

Hopefully most people wake the *snip* up and realize not to take the bait.

a reply to: LastInLine1

Here's the real root of the problem--we allow our government to give foreign aid to anyone and everyone. We have zero real checks and balances over that.

Personally, I say we stop subsidizing foreign countries until we get our debt in check...or forever, but that's another conversation altogether. We need to stop policing the world AND being the world's payday-loan company, too. Both of those would stop the funding of terrorist group by us.

Don't forget about all of that lovely military equipment we just leave over there for ISIS to have, like armored vehicles and the like.

a reply to: LastInLine1

F&S&

Some hope?

Iraq Arrests ISIS Advisors, US And Israelis Held

TEHRAN – Iraqi Special Forces said they have arrested several ISIL’s foreign military advisors, including American, Israeli and Arab nationals in an operation in Mosul in the Northern parts of the country.

The Iraqi forces said they have retrieved four foreign passports, including those that belonged to American and Israeli nationals and one that belonged to the national of a Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (PGCC) member-state, from ISIL’s military advisors.

The foreign advisors were arrested in a military operation in Tal Abta desert near Mosul city.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: intrptr

What does an American helicopter observing an enemy convoy prove? The US needs the intelligence and Daesh is apparently in too much of a hurry to engage it.

The 'enemy', huh?

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a reply to: soficrow

This "report" has never been confirmed. The text has been re-posted by bloggers all over the internet. Note that there are no names mentioned, nor photographs of the passports. This is what is known as "black propaganda," a blatant lie that gets repeated enough to appear true.

a reply to: intrptr

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Just because the used truck was purchased in the United States at some point does not mean the buyer was the United States government. The OP still hasn't supported the claims made in the opening rant. (Which is probably where this thread should actually be.)

Yah, just because US TOW anti tank missile launchers appear in Syrian insurgents hands… doesn't mean "Assad must go".

Liveleak, US anti tank weapons in Syria

a reply to: intrptr

Yah, just because US TOW anti tank missile launchers appear in Syrian insurgents hands… doesn't mean "Assad must go".

Correct. It also doesn't mean that the missiles were given to Daesh by the United states government. As I have already explained, arming supposedly "friendly" groups in the region results in the arms switching sides as the political winds shift. The United States and Europe, including Russia, need to leave Syria alone and let the dust settle where it will. Perhaps Daesh would then force nations on both sides of the Sunni/Shi'a divide to co-operate.

a reply to: DJW001

Apparently, the source article came from Veterans Today, a "journal for the clandestine community." The publication's Boards, bureaus and correspondents look well qualified. VT's politics and agenda are controversial and perhaps questionable.

Iraq Arrests ISIS Advisors, US and Israelis Held

By GPD on March 8, 2015
Busted: Mossad and CIA Contractors Held

EDITORIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS
The Board is responsible for all content on VT and participates in all major decisions regarding content, columnists, and editorial direction for VT

Gordon Duff– Chairman, U.S. Marines, Vietnam, Managing Director, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Jim W. Dean– Managing Editor, Military Order of World Wars, Association for Intelligence Officers, Senior Vice President, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Dr. Kevin Barrett, Specialist in Islamic Studies, Educator, Radio Host, Investigative Journalist
Dr. Preston James – Social psychologist, historian, political analyst
Lt. General Hamid Gul – Director General ISI (Former Chief of Intelligence Services, Pakistan)
Col. Eugene Khrushchev – Former Soviet/Russian Airborne commander, Afghanistan, Chief of Planning, Intelligence and Psychological Warfare, former First Secretary, Soviet and Russian Embassies, Kabul, Afghanistan, Director of Strategic Planning, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Col. James Hanke – US Army Special Forces (Ret.) Former G2 Third Army, NATO Nuclear Weapons Commander, Attache to Israel, A-Team Leader Vietnam, Director of Operations, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Mike Harris – Financial Editor, radio host, former GOP Campaign Finance Chairman and gubernatorial candidate for Arizona, Senior Vice President, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Carol Duff RN/MSN – Health Editor

ADVISORY BOARD
Jeff Smith – Nuclear Physicist, is a former a nuclear weapons specialist with the Department of Energy and UN (IAEA) weapons inspector specialising in nuclear nonproliferation issues. He is now cryptographic curator and historian, preserving classified documents involving nuclear weapons research.
F. William Engdahl – Global Energy Policy Specialist, Strategic Risk Analyst and author
Lt. Col. Stephen Avery USAF (ret) – Airline security specialist, F111 pilot, USAF Special Operations pilot
Gwenyth Todd – Former Head, White House National Security Council, Middle East Desk, Chief Political Advisor, US Navy 5th Fleet
Leo Wanta – Former National Director of Intelligence under President Reagan and Inspector General, Department of Defense
Major Bobby Hanifin – US Air Force, Veterans Affairs Editor
Kadir A. Mohmand – Former commander with the Afghan Mujahideen, North American spokesman for Mujahideen veterans

INTERNATIONAL BUREAUS / CORRESPONDENTS

Middle East: Editor/Chief Correspondent: Gwyneth Todd, former head, Middle East Desk, National Security Council, White House, Washington, Chief Consultant, Department of the Navy for Middle East Affairs U.S.

Eqypt: Bureau Chief: Dr. Ashraf Ezzat MD

Syria: Bureau Chief: Nahed al Husaini, Dr. Bassam Barakat

State of Palestine: Bureau Chief: Sami Jadallah,

Israel: Roytov, exiled and “disappeared”

Iran: Bureau Chief: Kourosh Ziabiari and Dr. Ismail Salami (Press TV/Tehran Times)

Afghanistan : Bureau Chief: Kadir Mohmand, Nazar Mohammad Mutmaeen, Fayaz Shah, Dr. Mohamed Miraki,

Armenia: Bureau Chief: Harut Sassounian

Georgia: Bureau Chief: Jeffrey Silverman, US Army, Specialist in Biological and Chemical Warfare

Azerbaijan: Bureau Chief: Henry Kamens

Southeastern Europe: Bureau Chief: Sir Vojislav Milosevic, Director General, Center for Counter-Terrorism and World Peace

Professor Andrija Slavik (Specialist on Diplomacy, War Plans and Psychological Warfare)
Lt. General (Retd.) Banko Krga – Former Head of Military Intelligence and Deputy Chief of General Staff, Serbian Armed Forces
Lt. General (Retd.) Satish Nambiar – Former Deputy Chief of Staff, Assistant Secretary General and Under Secretary General ,United Nations
Vice Admiral Radomir Grujic, Fleet Commander, Serbian Naval Forces, Chief of Staff, War College of Serbia
....

Prison Planet Intelligence Agency Wiki: Veterans Today

a reply to: soficrow

Apparently, the source article came from Veterans Today, a "journal for the clandestine community." The publication's Boards, bureaus and correspondents look well qualified. VT's politics and agenda are controversial and perhaps questionable.

Please tell me you're joking. Veteran's Today is a notorious propaganda site run by Crypto-Fascists. The only qualifications the board members have is that they are willing to lie in the service of a dreamed of military coup to rescue the United States from the Jews. (Seriously.) The article they clone comes not from Iraq, but Iran:

english.farsnews.com...

This "report" has been repeated by Anti-American and Anti-Israel bloggers and websites. Just google the first sentence and see what crops up.

Edit To Add: I just noticed the board has a former ISI chief on it. I suggest you look up the ISI, it will help you understand what really happened in Afghanistan.

a reply to: LastInLine1

Not posted yet? time to:

a reply to: LastInLine1

You know what I'm tired of? This constant nonsense based on nothing, no evidence, no proof, no actual validity to so many of these claims that the US funds all these groups.

The motto here is "deny ignorance", but so many of you guys positively EMBRACE it.

You have to understand that there is constant propaganda on all sides here, right? You claim your own government is engaging in propagda all the damn time while simply accepting everything else as absolutely 100% true!

You preach about the US media, the CIA, the propaganda you claim your government is constantly engaged in, but when something reported by someone else goes in your favor you suddenly change your mind entirely about propaganda - it's only propaganda when it goes against what you want to believe.

Get real people. Russia engages in propaganda every damn day, so does ISIS, so does Isreal, so does Pakistan...

No one here knows anything about the actions being taken by our countries and our services, and while you shouldn't simply accept that they are being wholly good, you at least have to accept that they are AMERICANS working to protect you from attack.

This place is becoming more and more insane by the day.