originally posted by: laminatedsoul
a reply to: ancientthunder
not me. If I can't see it in real life without the aid of hallucinogens, then it ain't real.
That is the common-sense approach to life that I take.
However, I also seek meaning in life. As I look at this
upside-down world I don't find any. Therefore, in my
quest for spiritual fulfillment, I am open to the very
real possibility that EVERYTHING I believe is wrong.
I see a chair.
That chair has meaning because I think I know what it is.
What if I am wrong? It could just be my perspective, and
by shift my view to right or the left that object is revealed
to be a cleaver optical illusion created by an artist who
intended to fool me. It is not a chair. It is an illusion.
Such an optical illusion is teaching us an important
spiritual truth: Do Not Assume Anything
Common sense and logic can guide us in healthy ways
to overcome superstition and fantasy. Having said that,
common sense and logic can not take us all the way to
the open space of spiritual fulfillment where one can
experience peace, joy, and bliss.
This is what I call the realm of "mystical experience"
and those to get there know three things 1) they live
in a world of illusion, and 2) peace, joy, and bliss
are more real than anything in the physical world,
and 3) their personal path to this understanding
is unique to them and is not a one size fits all.
I've decided the long haul to spirituality that involves cognitive dissonance in order to even exist, is not worth the trouble for a thing that does
not. The sanctity of life, doing good, helping where I can - these things I can measure.
That is a perfectly reasonable approach to life,
however, measuring things is a waste of time.
The mind loves to measure, that is what it does.
It measures everything, often with assumptions
that are not true. Again, we don't know what
we do not know. But often, as if by default,
we rely exclusively on our Left Brain. This
is a mistake. The brain is a tool we can use
to "unlearn" false authority... but only if
choose to use it.
The next step is to and relinquish TOXIC EMOTION
and PSYCHIC PAIN, but Left Brain isn't very good
at that. This is were logic and reason fail us.
God has served a purpose - dragging cave men out of the caves. Well some. But he is no longer required, or needed. if humans cannot see what is right
and wrong without having to be told by other men from a thousand years ago, then they are the ones to pity, for they already live in hell.
I agree. The time of teachers and gurus is over.
We are now in a paradigm shift away from that
"Old World" way of thinking. Today, people are
more inclined to reject the indirect "truths" that
were passed down, and only entertain the ideas
that they can directly experience.
This is as it ought to be, for the reasons you state.
Having said that, "Faith is real, even if the object
of that faith is not" IF it brings comfort to some
people to believe in a After Life fantasy, then
who am I to deny people their private illusion?
This is what I hear you saying, and I agree.
Faith has value, just as having a positive attitude
has value. It DOES, in fact, effect the quality of
your life. A life without faith is like having a
negative attitude, it makes life more difficult.
ALL WE SEE (i.e., all we TELL ourselves) is illusion.
So why not create our own myths, and make it one
that brings us joy, peace, and harmony? This is now
some people make money--the THINK ABOUT MONEY
and BELIEVE IN MONEY, that will make them happy,
and so it does (to one extent or anther).
I want more than money (the reality of this world).
I want experience the joy (the reality of heaven)
... not in some ideal After Life, but RIGHT NOW!
Here is the bottom line:
What is REAL is the OTHER (outside of what
we THINK we see). The mind can provide logic
and common sense which will solve problems
in the physical world, but it stops there.
In order to move beyond the world of FORM
one must unlearn (empty themselves) of the
assumption about what is REAL and unreal.
For example: I know longer believe that
death is real.... therefore I have no fear
of death. I no longer believe in the
time-based illusion of the physical.
What is not real, does not exist.
Lack and Loss, more illusion.
Fear and Attack, more illusion.
Death is not real.
I am not waiting to die,
I am waiting to be born.
Until then, I live in the peace of heaven.
Until then, I live in the joy and bliss of
being united with Source and all creation.
When I do return to Source... it will
a seamless transition that I accept
and fully welcome.
edit on 19-11-2015 by wasaka because: (no reason given)