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Statistics is the study of the collection, analysis, interpretation, presentation, and organization of data.
and at its basic form it is statistical analysis, comparing data
"We" do. A great deal of effort is made in reconstructing data from ancient climates and what influenced them.
why would we not want to find data going billions of years to see patterns in the cycle,
Sorry, where did I say any data was ignored?
It doesn't suggest very good science if you're just going to ignore anything before a certain year, because "it's different" that just says bias to suit agenda to me sorry
Yes. The thing is, what happened billions of years ago doesn't really have much to do with what's happening today.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Metallicus
No. Not solved. But if your hypothesis is correct, it won't hurt.
Because, you see, we don't just burn fossil fuels to heat our homes. And a good number of people don't heat their homes at all.
originally posted by: mc_squared
It's really hard to convey the significance of this to people who are confused yet convinced that Al Gore and them commie scientists said "we're all supposed to be underwater by now".
But since you mentioned your furnace - to those people who really don't think 1 degree is a big deal - I always like to point out: think about how much energy is required to heat your house an extra degree (Celsius). Now think about how much energy it would take to make the whole planet do that.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
Terrible analogy, as the argument isn't that it's taking more energy to heat the planet up, but that the increased blanket of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere is keeping the same heat from escaping away, thereby keeping the planet warmer and for longer periods of time.
In reality, the correct analogy would be to compare adding more insulation to your home, which would keep the heat in better and use a similar amount of energy to keep it at a constant temperature of one degree higher. Hell, maybe even less energy.
originally posted by: Discotech
Also with regards to CO2, it's not only CO2 that creates the warming now is it, let's be honest there's plenty data that supports CH4 is a larger contributing factor to the climate issue than CO2, combine the 2 and it is bad for the climate but what's to say it is not part of a larger natural cycle ?
what's to say it is not part of a larger natural cycle ?
Is the sun warmer now than it was, say 100,000 years a go ?
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
In reality, the correct analogy would be to compare adding more insulation to your home, which would keep the heat in better and use a similar amount of energy to keep it at a constant temperature of one degree higher. Hell, maybe even less energy.
A report revealed just this week, shows the 'Open Society Institute' funded Hansen to the tune of $720,000, carefully orchestrating his entire media campaign. OSI, a political group which spent $74 million in 2006 to "shape public policy," is funded by billionaire George Soros, the largest backer of Kerry's 2004 Presidential Campaign. Soros, who once declared that "removing Bush from office was the "central focus" of his life, has also given tens of millions of dollars to MoveOn.Org and other political action groups.
Certainly Soros has a right to spend his own money. But NASA officials have a responsibility to accurate, unbiased, nonpartisan science. For Hansen to secretly receive a large check from Soros, then begin making unsubstantiated claims about administrative influence on climate science is more than suspicious -- it's a clear conflict of interest.
But the issues don't stop here. Hansen received an earlier $250,000 grant from the Heinz Foundation, an organization run by Kerry's wife, which he followed by publicly endorsing Kerry. Hansen also acted as a paid consultant to Gore during the making of his global-warming film, "An Inconvenient Truth," and even personally promoted the film during an NYC event.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: bellagirl
You will never convince me....sorry.
You, personally, don't need to be convinced. It is happening and your children and grand children and great grand children will live the consequences.