Democratic Presidential Debate 11/14/2015

Concerning the debate last night, anyone else not surprised by Clinton's typical politician response when asked about her Wall Street donors and she invokes a rant about 9/11 and women donating to her?

She's the worst.

I think the Democratic debates are a joke, I tried watching it.... but couldn't get past looking at only three candidates, and the ugly witch in the middle.....had to turn the tv channel.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Aazadan

Interesting. I always think of Community Colleges as being 2-year (Associates Degree) deals.

Hmmm. Anyway, I'm all for 'trade school' - and in particular the idea that a kid in high school can say "this is what I'm interested in", and then they offer classes about that (shop, fashion, welding, automotive, chef) that the kids can attend instead of sitting in courses that don't interest them.

It's a win-win.

A kid who knows HOW TO LEARN can learn anything he or she wants to.
Having them start along that path earlier (like they do in Italy, according to the many interns that came through the place I worked) does wonders.

NOT ALL kids want to go to college. Not all of them want to finish high school. If the kid knows how to read, write, and do research, they can accomplish anything they want.

There's already free courses on the internet.

Associates Degrees are supposed to be 2 years but my experience was that in practice they rarely are for the same reason that Bachelors degrees are rarely 4 years today. Maybe it's just the schools I attend or the programs I've been in but students fail classes, and sometimes you can't take the recommended course load. States define a minimum and maximum credit hours for a program to be accredited but most programs don't use the minimum, because if they can make people attend more classes it means they have more money in their budget and then sometimes classes are hard and taking a full load isn't realistic. For example, I had a single class last semester that took 5 hours/week in class and then another 30/week out of class but that's what the course content required and over 70% of the people taking the class failed it.

Trade schools are fine, but they're not a solution on their own to our education issues. It's like energy where any viable solution requires an all of the above plan. You can't focus everyone on one type of school, but no specific school is a solution on it's own either.

Then again, I think most of the population is under educated in the first place, but some people don't want to learn so it's not the sort of thing you can force on people.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
To clarify, this Western Illinois Univ mock election has been right 100% of the time for POTUS outcomes. But not always for VP.

Interesting conclusion, I was thinking about this last night and while I support Sanders I was thinking O'Malley is the most realistic Democrat candidate for the general election. Sanders has the socialist label and Hillary isn't viable so that leaves O'Malley by default.

That said, I really hope Sanders wins.

originally posted by: Swills
You misread his post. The 18 months applies to trade and technical schools. He clearly says college is 48 months.

So I did, I got mixed up with another persons avatar who was speaking of community college.