posted on Nov, 16 2015 @ 03:30 PM
originally posted by: stolencar18
With all due respect, your generation - likely the same as mine - needs to hike up their shorts and quit whining.
I'm 32 so feel free to peg my generation from there. I know many people my age, people with good educations in useful fields that don't have jobs
because they don't exist. Several engineers that deliver pizza, computer scientists that stock shelves in Walmart, I even know someone that graduated
law school that's a barista. The jobs don't exist.
Student loan debt doesn't exceed all credit card debt. Not even close. That's a blatant lie. Using your hero's #'s, Keely Mullen figured
there's 1.3 trillion in student loan debt in the US. A quick google search showed several reputable sites showing total American credit card debt at
3+ trillion dollars.
Back in 2011 student loan debt had passed credit card debt. It seems you're right though but that's not a positive thing, because it means credit
card debt has more than tripled in the last 4 years. The point stands though that student loan debt is out of control.
And having a no-skill job and no life? Good effing grief...Work for a living and earn an honest days pay and make your own way. A "life" -
meaning a social life, free time to play Xbox, drinking nights, etc - is not a right you have. The problem is there is no work ethic anymore. Everyone
thinks they deserve a $15 dollar an hour job for doing no work. And the crying about having no options? Bull. There's lots of physical labor type jobs
that pay well over $20. Look harder. They're out there.
$20/hour with what sort of ceiling? I spoke to someone on these boards a few months ago that said how great their job was because it was hard
physical work, started at $15 and if you stuck around you would cap out at $25 after a couple years. $25 is what the minimum wage should be. Being
proud of a job that pays $20 is ludicrous. Quite frankly, not a single person in the country should be settling for anything that pays below $30/hour
to start right now but people do.
And college? If you choose that route, you don't need an Ivy league university to get a successful career afterwards.
I'm well aware of this point, I have 4 degrees and I'm working on my 5th and final one. None are from big named schools, but the schools themselves
are good. The main advantage of a big name school other than name recognition is in graduation rates. They have high costs to attend and selective
enterence exams, but once you're in you will not fail. Ivy League schools are a big of a joke actually. Schools like Princeton, Yale, and Harvard
have over 99% graduation rates which means well under 1% fail any given class. At the 3 tiny schools I've attended the schools graduation rates have
been 17%, 15%, and 12%. The program I'm in now has a graduation rate of 8% (compared to 15% for the school as a whole). Money buys that certainty
you graduate, in comparison I spend under $8k/year in tuition but there is a very real and extremely high chance of not being successful.
Finally, people paying tens of thousands for courses without researching what kind of income they can earn afterwards? That's their own fault.
Not all jobs are going to pay highly, but that doesn't mean society shouldn't have those jobs. Jobs in the arts like performers, painters, authors,
musicians, or even the liberal arts like philosophers, women's studies, or social workers are jobs that society is better off having than not having.
The people who fill those roles for us shouldn't be stuck with unworkable amounts of debt to go alongside their poor wages when they're still doing
something to benefit society.
Ya..I'm mad. These people are selfish and lazy and I'm sick of people who want something for nothing.
It's not something for nothing. It's getting a fraction of the payoff that was promised after putting in the work for an education.