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posted on Nov, 11 2015 @ 10:56 PM
Self Diagnosis

Curious to know if you can self diagnose yourself in a psychiatric session.

If you had you for a patient and there were specific issues you were dealing with what would you the psychiatrist instruct you the patient to do in order to deal with said issues?

Or, have you gone to a therapist for issues that you were able to conquer? Would you care to share the problem and the solution?

Have you been involved with group therapy? Was it successful? Have you ever been involved in one of the 12 step programs for dealing with addictions? If so, care to share? Did you complete the program? If not, was there a step in the program that caused a relapse?

When I was younger I went through many different issues that required many different forms of therapy.

I had sleep disturbances, I had an addiction to alcohol, I was abused sexually, I had anger management issues, I was diagnosed hyperactive (that is what they called it back in the day).

Some of these issues led to other problems; trust issues, authority issues, self destructive behavior patterns.

I was bullied and picked on. I had a severe hearing impairment. I had major self esteem problems.

I spent many years going through various treatment programs and I was poked and prodded and used as a guinea pig even.

What I was able to do was eventually learn to self diagnose. I spent so much time being in therapy, I became my own therapist. I became quite good at it. Too bad my lack of patience followed me into my adult years or I might have become an actual therapist for others. I despised school, so, the idea of going to college to earn a medical degree was foreign to me.

There is a series of steps that one has to follow in order to change a personality trait they deem offensive and in need of repair. I am not talking about the 12 step programs. Those are more intensive and usually are dealing with specific addictions. They use the same steps I am talking about, but they are more regimented and a sponsor usually prods you along the way.

The first step, however, is admitting there is a problem to begin with. It is not necessary to hit rock bottom, but that is usually what it takes for someone to see a problem.

The second step is wanting to change it. Just because we admit it or see it doesn’t mean we are willing to or actually want to change it. Sometimes, we are willing to accept it as a character flaw and damn the torpedoes full speed ahead.

The third step when trying to change something requires knowing and recognizing after the fact that you pooped again. You did it, but then you understood you did it and are aware. Rather than having someone point it out to you.

The fourth step is when you see it happening as you are doing it and attempt to stop the behavior before completion.

The fifth step is when you see it before it happens and do not allow it to happen. That is when you have finally made the change to NOT allowing the behavior. This will have to be maintained in order to not relapse, but the signs are recognizable. If there is a relapse, forgiveness for the relapse plays a part in being able to get back to that fifth step again.
Being perfect is never possible even when striving for perfection is the goal. Acceptance of imperfection is required for all human beings and souls alike.

Many of the problems we are trying to overcome have deeper roots than the problem itself. In order to eliminate one you must first find the source. For instance, my sexual abuse at the hands of a trusted family friend and religious advisor, caused many different problems for me in my life.

Until I came to the realization I had been abused, many of the issues I was dealing with were never going to be dealt with to the point where they could be overcome, rather they would only get band aids and stitches that got repeatedly ripped off and the wounds opened and festered with the same infection.

Once I dealt with the abuse the other problems became more manageable; some even were eliminated. However, that part about forgiving relapses and understanding character flaws rears it’s ugly head because no matter how hard I try, damage done to certain aspects of my personality will not allow me to change for self preservation.

That is okay. I am okay with the fact I am not as trusting. Or that I dislike authority figures. Or that I have a deeply rooted distrust for religion as a result. I have dealt with the anger and self esteem issues quite well. I have less addiction to harmful poisons. My sleep disturbances went away, but unfortunately it was replaced with severe nerve damage that cause me to not be able to sleep longer than 2 or 3 hours at a time.

We don’t always know what causes our issues and problems and fears and addictions, when they cause us to lose friends or keep us from cultivating long lasting relationships or prevent us from being the best version of our self, there are options available for us to change them if we truly want to.

It starts with seeing first. Then the effort to change will be better able to manifest itself. Once the effort is put forth, keeping the change in place will be better accomplished and maintained. Recognizing imperfection is expected, relapses can be dealt with easier. Forgiveness is required for anyone that wishes to change. If you cannot forgive yourself or the person that caused the manifestation or infestation, change will be fruitless and far more difficult.

posted on Nov, 11 2015 @ 11:38 PM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

self Diagnosis is actually a bad idea.
When doctors go to med school and read the medical books they start to believe they have symptoms of diseases they dont actually have and its well documented occurrence.

#2 Doctor Jerkly and mister Hyde "don't know if I spelled it right is actually a story based off of a true tale about a doctor who used himself as a test subject and died because of it.

#3 it pays to be introspective and examine yourself or choices but without guidance it can be destructive.

posted on Nov, 11 2015 @ 11:52 PM
nicely written.

Self diagnosis, in my opinion can be applied easily. But it can be good for some cases and not so much for other. For instance if you have addictions or some bad habit you want to get rid of, or only to better yourself as a person, than self diagnosis is a great tool!

What matters is only honesty to yourself. But that is a hard thing for people to do these day. Maybe because some are so out of touch with themselves they don't even know when they are truthful or not. They only lack introspection.

So first step is admitting as you say. That is honesty! And if you do not lose sight of that - that can be also the last step and than there is nothing to worry about. After honesty comes integrity to do what is right and not fall back on old habit. Never!

Stick to that and fight your way out of suffering. This must be done with full conviction otherwise all is in vain. If you are not sure 100% in yourself than this will be hard. Although at the beginning there is lack of self confidence, but you must just fake it till you make it and pull yourself up.
When you show honesty and integrity confidence will manifest itself naturally!
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 02:13 AM
Its the internet, who is being honest?? Internet fiction writer is a profession nowadays isnt it?? Go figure, its the same thing as writing a book. How about some residual payouts hmm???

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 03:33 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

A good therapist will usually get the patient to self diagnose without realising.

Person-centred approach to counselling allows the therapist to repeat back to the patient in a manner which allows the person to understand themselves better.

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:33 AM
I was fortunate to have receive professional treatment, after breaking down and receiving my diagnosis.This came relatively late in my life, and caught me completely off guard. BPD type 2.

I didn't believe it at first.After chilling out and reconsidering, I realized this was a missing piece of the puzzle.Life is much better now.

While in the hospital, I took advantage of an intervention program tailored to those with an umbrella of diagnosis.This program consisted of education addressed at having a better understanding of what I was going through.They gave me practical tools to practice feeling better.The emphasis was on taking my medication, looking after myself with nutrition, exercise, healthier thinking and being.This course helped me to develope a plan, and tap into my support network to move forward.The program was done is small groups at the hospital and afterwards.

The combination of education, learning to make healthier choices (expressing myself), and support of my loved ones, made a world of difference.I practice following my plan, and get help when my triggers start to get out of hand.I still have my ups and downs, it's not easy.

Imo, self diagnosis is undesirable compared to professional treatment.Mental illness can be difficult to accept.Individuals can become prisoner to their own minds, once they loose touch of what is going on around them.Long before I got help, I remember recording myself while taking notes.To my horror, what I heard reviewing my day was different then I had remembered.

The hurt inside, was robbing me of my ability to remember or listen to what anyone else had to say.It's kind of freaky to realize, and I don't blame anyone for being scared if they encounter that.A holistic approach to mental illness should be encouraged.It's all to easy too imagine someone behaving out of malice, instead of confusion.
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posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 09:57 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Interesting read, thanks for sharing!

More people should analyse themselfes, imo. The most ** up # heads are always those pointing fingers and ignoring their own actions! Also it seems like this is no world for sensitive people, at least for my experience they go and seek help more often. When it is the culprit who should...

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 10:08 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Ive had issues and been to therapy when I was younger. I did not see the therapy as very helpful, however I am a cheerleader for therapy and think that even people without noticeable problems can benefit from therapy.

I also would never be where I am at without "diagnosing myself". I read books, online chats, everything about depression, it has pushed me to take classes in college and still today I visit chatrooms as a sort of "group therapy" or even "case studies". Im very intrigued by the mind.

I figured I had depression, even after my family (who are not doctors or therapists in anyway) declared I was manic depressive, they still think I have serious issues. My depression starting to fade as I moved away from my jerk family. I had a need to find out as much as I could about the mind. My story ends with me becoming very happy with my findings and my life by "diagnosing myself". I also still keep an arms length from my judgmental family, in which they think I have issues bc of it but I do not care

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 12:47 PM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Self diagnosis seems to be what we all do anyway. I would suggest, however, that some mental issues can not be dealt with internally and require a specialist. I think I understand what you are saying though, that it is possible to change specific personality traits on your own if you know the way to go about it.

I have addictions that I deal with and I have been involved in the 12 step program. I was grateful to have the support of others that were going through similar circumstances, but ultimately I realized that any changes had to be done by hard work and I made the decision to tackle those addictions without the 12 step program.

I felt there was a cult like atmosphere that was being fostered and it was stripping me of my identity. They can cross a line, by making you feel the only way to overcome is through their guidance. One of them even suggested that I would not last a day away from their program, but the last thing I said to them was they were wrong.

10 years later, I am still working my own program and although, I have had an occasional relapse, I have found the way to overcome the addictions that did paralyze me and keep me from living that normal life we all crave. You are so right when you say forgiveness is the key, to myself and to those that brought harm to me.

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 02:16 PM
a reply to: searcherfortruth

I have never done the 12 steps, never been addicted, but have a friend that was and also taught it bc she worked at a rehab. She did NOT like teaching it bc she felt it was like a cult and way to intertwined with religion. My take is the 12 steps is BAD. DO NOT DO IT! Find people like you and create your own path out.

posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 11:35 PM
As a kid I endured a lot, more than I was capable of dealing with.

As a side effect of broken relationships and other issues I looked in the mirror and knew I had a problem, I didn't want to talk about it and I did not want to be medicated.

I had my suspicions, those being narcissistic personality disorder and/or borderline personality disorder. I am very aware of the effect of cognitive biases and such so instead of self diagnosing, I took the path I saw best and treated myself. I changed patterns and interrupted thought processes with methods common to Dialectical behaviour therapy.

Dialectical behavior therapy (DBT) is a therapy designed to help people change patterns of behavior that are not helpful, such as self-harm, suicidal thinking, and substance abuse. This approach works towards helping people increase their emotional and cognitive regulation by learning about the triggers that lead to reactive states and helping to assess which coping skills to apply in the sequence of events, thoughts, feelings, and behaviors to help avoid undesired reactions. DBT assumes that people are doing the best they can but are either lacking the skills or influenced by positive or negative reinforcement that interfere with their ability to function appropriately.

Let's just say that the changes were astounding and life altering. I have since consulted a psychologist and they agree that I most likely did suffer BPD and to a lesser extent NPD for a good decade or more. This also resulted in depression.
They also agree I am past it. I am now capable, mentally healthy and if I do happen to have a negative thought, I interrupt and dismiss it.

Generally I don't believe self diagnosis is a good idea. Doctors undergo a lot of training for a reason. That said, there are benefits to CBT and DBT. Mindfulness meditation benefits all who practice it and it honestly cannot hurt.
If you think you have a disorder, perhaps look at the treatments and be proactive. Make some changes in your life, never know.. you might just get past the problems without any external help. If you don't see any change or wish to take your life, consult a mental health professional.

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 08:50 AM
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Even if you fix said issues with yourself you will find the work will not effectively change the outside world or your interactions with it. Most people today go through life with little to no regard for others or their feelings. Becoming a better human being is almost counter productive to your mental health. Sensitive people will get trampled on as if you had a Spot light on you with the word "sucker" printed on your forehead. Your sensitivity will bring about your own victimization and will attract people who will victimize you like a moth to a flame they will find you. Being the sensitive person you will forgive and forget time an time again until you cant take it anymore. However you somewhere along the way have helped enable your victimization if you can figure out where when and what lead you to the outcome you will find the answers to the change you are looking for

I will quote Peeple

More people should analyse themselfes, imo. The most ** up # heads are always those pointing fingers and ignoring their own actions! Also it seems like this is no world for sensitive people, at least for my experience they go and seek help more often. When it is the culprit who should...

posted on Nov, 14 2015 @ 02:59 PM
These threads are just bait for intelligence assets to try and slap a label on someone they may not like saying what is true and find a reason to dope their mind into oblivion. In fact it was not long after I was accused of being in a state of psychosis by a disagreeing member for bridging a link between the CIA and media that this thread even popped up.

Of course it could all be a complete coincidence.

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