posted on Nov, 12 2015 @ 04:20 AM
1. The point was made here, repeatedly, that the individual we are discussing in Shamrock's OP has not and probably would not meet the medical
requirements for sex reassignment treatments, specifically contrasted with the other case, posted by Benevolent Heretic, in which a trans* person who
had been incarcerated had qualified for treatment and had been arbitrarily denied unfairly had won the right for treatment on appeal.
2. The point has also been made that no matter how repugnant, disgusting or repellent the crime is that someone is incarcerated for, as a culture, we
do not arbitrarily deny medical treatment to prisoners because we don't accept the validity of their condition.
3. Several posters here tried to imply, ridiculously, that those of us who were making two these points are in favor of child molestation or are
defending the crime of child molestation. As well, several posters made snide and content-empty comments about the reality of trans* concerns and
medical treatment for that situation. Also, some who make the later comments also imply that accepting the scientific- and medically-established
facts about trans* individuals is merely part of an LGBT political agenda which has no other merit.
No one has to "accept" the facts about trans* individuals, but that doesn't change the facts that they exist and have the same rights as any other
No one has to accept that providing appropriate medical treatment to prisoners is part of the unpleasant cultural duty of keeping them incarcerated,
but that doesn't change the fact that it is both generally and specifically true as a matter of treating prisoners humanely EVEN when they have not
treated other people so ... after all, I believe we can agree that we as a collective society choose to behave better and more ethically than those
who commit crimes for which we incarcerate them.
Finally, no one here is saying that providing medical treatment to prisoners is in some way advocating for or attempting to excuse the heinous crimes
they committed to get to jail in the first place, and such arguments are utterly ludicrous on their face.
edit on 4Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:36:46
-060015p0420151166 by Gryphon66 because: Noted