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originally posted by: spygeek
While the gut and the heart do have their own neuronic system and can be said to have their own "intelligence", it is the brain that interprets the signals sent by them and it is the brain that does the conscious "understanding".
Trust your heart or follow your gut are simply turns of phrase which basically encourage you to go with your instincts when deciding who to trust or love or what action to take.. There is no way to literally "know" what the heart "thinks", outside of neurocardiology. I suspect the gut "thinks" mostly about crap.. Or mine does, anyway. xD
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originally posted by: intrptr
It means butterflies, chills, racing heart are your glands trying to tell you something.
Ever been in the presence of a spirit? Your hair stands on end, get goose bumps, your heart races?
Time to listen within your spirit to what the spirit has to say.
originally posted by: nOraKat
a reply to: spygeek
originally posted by: spygeek
While the gut and the heart do have their own neuronic system and can be said to have their own "intelligence", it is the brain that interprets the signals sent by them and it is the brain that does the conscious "understanding".
Trust your heart or follow your gut are simply turns of phrase which basically encourage you to go with your instincts when deciding who to trust or love or what action to take.. There is no way to literally "know" what the heart "thinks", outside of neurocardiology. I suspect the gut "thinks" mostly about crap.. Or mine does, anyway. xD
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Maybe it hints at the notion that - since God created all life, and since emotions are what motivate life, by fulfilling your will and emotions (heart), you are fulfilling the will/intention of God.
On the other hand, to blindly fulfill your will based entirely on feeling and emotion can be equated to a primitive state of being, like the (non-human) animals.
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There is also the notion of a 'spiritual' existence which is beyond reason, knowledge, and thought.
The heart has neurons in it though, as does the gut.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: spygeek
Your soul is the real you, you know. The reaction I described is associated with a fear response, not pleasure.
The presence of a spirit gives us that response because we have no realm of experience for the encounter and people generally fear the unknown.
But some haven't been met and don't understand that.
To ascribe the sensation to fear response brought on by the presence of an unknown "spirit" is quite superstitious and presumptuous, but each to their own.
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
The heart has neurons in it though, as does the gut.
Neurons outside the brain serve for autonomic function only
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: spygeek
To ascribe the sensation to fear response brought on by the presence of an unknown "spirit" is quite superstitious and presumptuous, but each to their own.
Like I said if it one hasn't been witness then one doesn't know.
I don't mean by yourself or maybe you saw something out of the corner of your eye, either.
originally posted by: Ladybug201
Proverbs 3;5-6
Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.
The system is built on understanding and look what disgust it causes. Buddhism teaches us to quiet the mind, but is that all that there is to it? Its purpose is to live from the heart. To become a man of deeds instead of a man of words. Faith without works is dead. All things of the mind are illusion. Let's say you have sex in your mind with somebody. Do you see it was not real? You did not have sex with the person, you were only imagining it. It's sad the illusion is taken for real and how it is based on fear. And the mind dissapoints time after time.
Wars are based on what? On understanding?
The heart knows what the mind thinks it knows and sometimes making no sense makes sense to people.
One can not objectively "witness" a spirit, one can only ascribe a subjective sensation of perception to it.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: spygeek
One can not objectively "witness" a spirit, one can only ascribe a subjective sensation of perception to it.
Not if two or more experience the same thing. That was my point. It isn't just about a feeling, its a compilation of evidence that when all added up leads one the the conclusion it was more than subjective feeling as you keep isolating it.
Besides, do you "feel" with your eyes, too? Does someone else next to you also 'see' the same 'feeling' you get?
Multiple subjective accounts of witnesses do not equate to an objective truth. Eyewitness testimony is unreliable as it is subject to the predispositions, prejudices, intentions and biases in the perception of the eyewitness. For something to be established as objectively true requires a standard of evidence higher than what you are describing here.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: spygeek
Multiple subjective accounts of witnesses do not equate to an objective truth. Eyewitness testimony is unreliable as it is subject to the predispositions, prejudices, intentions and biases in the perception of the eyewitness. For something to be established as objectively true requires a standard of evidence higher than what you are describing here.
I haven't described anything.
But you weren't there, and apparently (if you aren't in outright denial) haven't seen anything out of this world yourself, how would you, could you possibly understand?
Like trying to describe color to someone born blind. I don't bother trying, especially if the blind person insists color doesn't exist, just because they have never seen it.