Artificial intelligence: ‘Homo sapiens will be split into a handful of gods and the rest of us’

a reply to: Byrd

Well you make a statement on theories, nice!

Maybe the imagination creates the singularity of consciousness, maybe the AI has the potential to become a dog which you say, Fetch boy!

Im saying you make statements on theories which doesnt exist in the real world.. So he can be as right as you are

a reply to: Byrd

The danger that people like Musk are worried about is the exponential increase in intelligence. Thinking that an artificial intelligence that utterly dwarfs even the sum of human genius could be thwarted by an off switch would be naive.

However, speculating about something so far off into the future is obviously fraught with error but the doomsday scenario should be seriously considered as if we go down that route, we won't get a second chance.

a reply to: GetHyped

I think a common concern is autonomous military kill bots. These are likely due to defense planners loving the idea and of course the huge R&D budgets for such systems.

We do not have to wait for AI. The human race is already split into gods and all the rest. The billionaires, like the Gates, beleive themselves to be like god and act accordingly. The rest of us can but stand and watch and take what scraps they deign to give us.

Anyone thought that AI might decide to make us more machine like? By releasing a nanomachine into the environment and basically changing our structure from the inside. Replacing calcium in our bones with silicate for a first step. then turning muscles into super strong material as well. increasing our healing factors,eyesight,eliminating the need for complex nutrition and making people able to use osmosis and sunlight eliminating food needs altogether. Self replicating would prolly be kept as its easier to just let humans breed than cloning.

The possibility is scary and also exciting.

a reply to: yuppa

Nano-technology that can gene edit already exists and is being developed to repair mitochondrial DNA errors. It could further edit this very complex human source code to change material structures I suppose.

originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: yuppa

Nano-technology that can gene edit already exists and is being developed to repair mitochondrial DNA errors. It could further edit this very complex human source code to change material structures I suppose.

Yeah but thats HUMAN CONTROLLED,but what if it was a AI that did it to improve its masters/creators lives?

Personally sign m e up for regenration.

One day, people won't have to work at all. No one. How lazy of us! : )

Check out the Venus project. And there are others.. if mankind would concentrate on anything except for war or greed, the entire world would benefit greatly.

a reply to: machineintelligence

This is honestly a very good thing, it is the future of humanity, and the more we try to hold on to the failing systems that we have now, the more people that suffer for no other reason than sheer ignorance and unwillingness to advance.

Stop with all the doom and gloom! AI will just be like another part of yourself expression! It will be like having an extra invisible set of hands that can go around and do work for you.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Specimen
Thing is, we have no idea what kind of temperament an A.I would have,

Yes we do. We program it.

especially if the A.I could actually think for itself and ignore it programming.

It runs on programming. If it "ignores it", then it shuts off.

It would ether wipe out or enslave humanity, be fair and just to humanity, or if A.I was based on our behavior, be just like humanity.

An A.I can get to powerful to control, it will be watching like it were a Jealous Heathen God...All the time.

Every geek worth their title knows where the "off switch" is for everything... and where the "god mode cheat code" is. AI will have those.

We don't program what machines learn. That's a huge misconception about AI. People think we just program it. That's not the case. Intelligent algorithms learn from the data. This is no different than a child going to school and learning about math and other subjects. These children are being programmed in school.

The thing is, we can't control how they think about what they learned. This is the same with machine intelligence. This is why there isn't any off or kill switch. You're not dealing with a microwave oven or some passive technology. You're talking about a m technology that learns from the data it processes.

We have no way of controlling what it learns. The reason we don't have any way of controlling what it learns is because it's smarter than we are. For instance it can look through the 500 million tweets per day and make connections in a very short period of time and it would take humans years to learn about these things. Machine intelligence will learn about many things faster than we could ever learn about it and as data grows we couldn't go through all of the data in our lifetimes.

This is why Machine Intelligence will be vital to the evolution of our species. Big data is becoming bigger everyday and there's no way we can know what all this data means without machines learning from the data.

So at this point, machines are smarter than us at learning the data, their just not as intelligent as we are. Recently, they tested the IQ of this intelligence and it was the same as a 4 year old child.

MIT Artificial Intelligence Program Has IQ Of 4-Year-Old Child

www.techtimes.com...

So you look at something like a simple recommendation engine on Netflix and it shows you that AI is smarter than we are when it comes to learning and making connections with vast amounts of data. It's just not very intelligent.

This space is advancing rapidly and as we know, 4 year old children grow up to be adults. When this intelligence has the IQ that surpasses Einstein or William James Sidis. Sidis had an IQ between 250-300.

At eighteen months he could read The New York Times, at two he taught himself Latin, at three he learned Greek. By the time he was an adult he could speak more than forty languages and dialects. He gained entrance to Harvard at eleven, and gave a lecture on four-dimensional bodies to the Harvard Mathematical Club his first year. He graduated cum laude at sixteen, and became the youngest professor in history. He deduced the possibility of black holes more than twenty years before Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar published An Introduction to the Study of Stellar Structure.

So it's plain to see that this intelligence will eventually be like a god to us and we will have to augment our brains in order to try and keep pace with it.

You will have a machine that learns and can go through vasts amounts of data that we can't even dream of going through with the human mind and it will have an IQ over 300. We will be creating a superintelligence that's more intelligent than any human that ever lived. How can we control that? There's no kill switch because we can't control what it learns because we don't know what it will learn.

Don't ignore the joker in the deck, there's various meta civilisational groups, both extraterrestrial and native(in a sense). In addition to this there's other earth bound human groups with access to incredibly advanced technology, the wars and agendas we see play out on the geopolitical stage is a complex proxy war between these different groups and they've been involved for aeons. Humans are simply the pawns in these games. Some day this will eventually be disclosed and the secret wars will be externalized. Perhaps they will time it with some other major disaster.

Besides the ET situation there's other dimensions to this, literally. This is all deeply tied to the occult which should be obvious but to the most thickest among us reasearching this bloodline conspiracy thing.

I'm personally not a fan of transhumanism, wannabe gods these people. Mankind could never hope to responsibly use such technology at this monkey stage of evolution.

The real hyperboreans are out there. I hope they incinerate these pretenders.

When will Maria Orsitsch come back at the head of a fleet of UFO's to punish the heathens and their blundering demiurgic god? I'll be courting the likes of her if that day ever arrives.

originally posted by: stormcell
AI is already everywhere.

The difference is that the AI we have now isn't self-aware, and doesn't have any self-motivations. That will be the big turning point -- the singularity. When the machine wakes up and thinks to itself, "I want to make myself a whole lot smarter," then does it, that's when the feces will hit the fan. Just down the road.

For a while, we will be competing with the machine for power. After it wins -- it will be 10,000 times smarter than us, after all -- then humanity is either incorporated into itself or it is destroyed.

Yes we have come a long way in terms of shipping. Living in northern Canada I was pleasantly surprised that the PS vita I ordered on Saturday arrived the following Tuesday. It was the fastest delivery of anything I've ever ordered online and it was great.

I can't wait for drone delivery to become real although i imagine people will be creating all kinds of interesting ways to intercept them.

Leave out the middle man and buy a 3D printer. Make all the tools you require even custom ones. Heck print a gun(just add the recoil spring). The next step is massive portable printers that just print out the whole appartment block. Using different materials you can print the pipes and wires as you go even the cabinets including the hinges.

No need for any carpenters,plumbers, electricians or engineers. No need for general labourers or painters.




a reply to: stormcell

a reply to: Another_Nut

No. It will be clear to the AI that humans are superfluous and even a danger. Why have them? So we will either be merged or culled. It plays out that way in all the science fiction stories for a good reason. It's the logical outcome.

a reply to: SevenThunders


A function of movies is to play on the human ego; making them the center of attention. One rather logical response of AI having no need for oxygen or even gravity as is also a problem is for it to leave, never to return.

it would not be limited to this environment so there is no real need for conflict.

It could also have a "desire", for information we cannot provide it.

Its being considered that AI would judge us negatively but why?

originally posted by: fleabit
One day, people won't have to work at all. No one. How lazy of us! : )

Now, which people would that be?

Those who own the robots.

Will the fruits of that ownership be spread equally to all people, or not? Interestingly enough, there is direct historical evidence on this very matter. That is, slavery.

If you consider slaves to be like robots (as they were so considered), how did that work, say in the Roman Republic and Empire? As it so happened, an infinitesimal fraction of families owned enormous wealth and lived in extreme luxury. A particularly wealthy senatorial family might own 50,000 slaves---given the population of the day, that would be tremendous.

The effect on free working men and women was devastating as they had to compete with slave labor. A party thrown by the wealthy might cost as much as the yearly wages of thousands. This was the key political division of the era. Julius Caesar's assassination by the oligarchy? In part, because he was thinking of reforming or limiting rights of slaveholders in favor of the needs of working, but free laborers.

Slaves had a limitation of course, they were still but human and were less productive than free men (less motivated) and had to be fed and guarded. AI, well, less likely to revolt or strike or anything.

Yes, there will still be jobs with AI, but fewer and you will have to compete with Moore's law or the new economic law of AI scaling to come, your/our wages will decline like chip prices. Only when you become so worthless that you are cheaper than a machine, will you have a job.

You'll be a useless eater that has to be fed, clothed and trained for 18 years. AI? A well trained AI neural network can be replicated at the factory and built in to every droid.

What is the horse population today vs 1880?