Lights in the sky above LA

a reply to: JimOberg

It's not the most common launch area, but the Navy has used it before.

originally posted by: Hieronymousanonymous
I suggest y'all on the news sites posing as reporters and here on ATS who like to look down your smug self congratulatory self endowed "SCIENTIFIC" noses to nasally and in your would be so wannabe affected bored superior way preach at us the govt and your "missile" story ---are actually sad pathetic creatures afraid of the paradigm shattering facts surrounding you.

Wow, such a long rant of nonsense, claiming everyone basing their opinions on reality and science are "wrong", and that you have "facts" to support your bs nonsense!

Please show me the facts you supposedly have disproving the reality that this was a test of a Trident 2 D5 missile out to sea off the West coast of the US.

When you present your evidence perhaps then we can be persuaded to believe a nonsense narrative about aliens, WW3, the Illuminati or the Lizard people... or whatever utter tripe you claim this was.

a reply to: reldra

Most missile tests out of California are Air Force launches out of Vandenberg. The Navy doesn't test their SLBMs as often so there aren't as many sightings of them. Air Force launches are either during the day, or very early morning, so again, there aren't a lot of sightings of them.

a reply to: randyvs

China did the same thing in 2010 around the same time in November. I would speculate that there could be a clandestine game going around between USA and China without the public's awareness keeping us completely in the dark. This could even be a Chinese missile as it seems a little strange USA would upset its populace with an unannounced "missile launch" like this.

a reply to: Rocker2013

You've made the assumption that it's "unnecessary" based on nothing but your own ignorance about these systems and operations. You know nothing about what is necessary but you've asserted that it wasn't needed because it suits your paranoia and desperation for this to be a conspiracy.
Obviously it was necessary otherwise they wouldn't have performed the test.

Okay, next time I'll just look at it and drool as I hit myself in
the head, saying questions bad, over and over again.

I witnessed the whole thing firsthand, was with my family going in to an appointment. I got no film footage but I clearly saw a tiny, unblinking red light trailing the missile before it ballooned.

Here's a Photoshop rendition of what I saw:



The red light moved around in relation to the missile, sometimes closer and sometimes further away but clearly following it. It was pretty high up in the sky but towards the west and it was headed northwest. The tail was so clearly defined that at first I thought I was seeing a helicopter shining a spotlight at the red light.

I didn't film it because I only had my iPhone which is worthless at night and we were late for our appointment.

It was not a damn missile, me and my brother watched it last night and recorded it on video. It was a massive meteor, at first it appeared as a massive fireball crossing the sky with chunks of it bursting off, then it fell into the atmosphere and started ejecting smoke and green gasses until it fizzled out.

Why is this being mislead as a missile? It clearly wasn't. Ill upload the video later.

From where I saw it near DTLA I'm just over 20 miles from the beach. Los Angeles is 233 feet above sea level.

Trident II just under 50 feet in length

Boeing 747 about 250 feet in length

The missile is 5 times smaller than an airplane.

A Boeing 747 travels about 600 miles per hour. This missile can go 18,000 mile per hour, that is 3 x faster.

Cruising altitude of a 747 is 35,000 feet near the highest clouds and planes flying over LA are much lower than that because they are approaching or taking off from LAX.

Clouds can obviously change color at sunset but not a night.Yesterday's sunset was at 4:55pm this happened right at 6:00pm.

How does any of this make sense with what everyone saw and recored?

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

I'm with you on that...missile story is a coverup. They've been tracking it from space for some time and new exactly when it was coming. The video footage it's obviously descending. That is why so many helicopters were watching it. The military controls the majority of satellites and tracking.

It doesn't make any sense if it was shot from a submarine near San Diego and meant to travel directly west over the ocean. It was extremely visible over Los Angeles and now I'm reconsidering it's direction.

Looking at Google maps the street I observed it from isn't sitting directly perfect NSEW, it's angled. So I would say that it was descending in a more south to north direction. It started off as an orange fireball that looks like a star in the video then has the light show and disappears.

I think it's a mystery.

a reply to: JimOberg

No need. YOU need to look at the videos and photos and witness descriptions - then actually WATCH a REAL Trident missile video it looks absolutely NOTHING like this object - this object only extremely superficially looks like a comet or missile- and there's a damned good REASON it shares these siperdicial traits with them- it's a similar object on the most superficial level. But it moves NOTHING like the missile PERIOD. Also when was the last time that SO MANY govt, military, police,& civilian agencies got together IN THE EARLIEST STAGES OF A UFO ANOMALY EVENT and almost ENTIRELY had the SAME story? I'll tell you when: NEVER. Not only that- the discrepancies are as telling as well....

a reply to: game over man

Rocket launches can be seen for hundreds of miles. That's all an SLBM is, is a rocket that doesn't put a payload into a lasting orbit. It doesn't matter if it's 5x smaller than a 747, it's a rocket, which means it's a lot more visible than a 747.

a reply to: Hieronymousanonymous

this object only extremely superficially looks like a comet or missile-

It looks nothing like a comet. It does, however, look like a rocket.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It was seen from over 100's of miles, Northern California, SoCal, AZ, and Reno. So everyone witnessed and recorded it's final stages that is why it disappeared? So it must of got into some orbit if it no longer required and more push to make it all the way to Russia? Why does it not look like it's falling to Earth to you?

a reply to: game over man

It was seen from over 100's of miles, Northern California, SoCal, AZ, and Reno.

Yes. Just as shuttle launches were seen along the entire East Coast. When things get very high they can be seen over great distances.



It did not go into orbit. It did not go to Russia.
It fell into the North Pacific.

a reply to: game over man

An Antares rocket from Wallops Island could be seen from South Carolina to parts of Maine, and as far west as parts of Pennsylvania.

Once the second stage ignites it's harder to see because it's so high and the engine is smaller because the second and third stage don't require as much push because they're already so high. They're much harder to see than the first stage is.

It doesn't appear to be falling because it goes a long way before it starts to descend again. It wouldn't start to drop until it's at the target area. That wouldn't be for a couple thousand miles.

originally posted by: VoidHawk
"It was a missile launch"
Remeber what they did in Pheonix after the pheonix lights? They launched flairs and said "It was flairs"

Not saying this wasnt a missile launch, but I wouldn't believe the OS without some good evidence.

Good grief, the guy in the YouTube only described seeing the rocket motor kick in as it launched then started screaming across the sky. The military has also diverted flights away from the test area for awhile, mostly so someone doesn't get a pic of our new toys let alone catch a missile in the window lol.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: game over man

It was seen from over 100's of miles, Northern California, SoCal, AZ, and Reno.

Yes. Just as shuttle launches were seen along the entire East Coast. When things get very high they can be seen over great distances.



It did not go into orbit. It did not go to Russia.
It fell into the North Pacific.

Source on it falling into the North Pacific? So near Alaska? Why was this not seen from Oregon, Washington, or BC?

Was it in reality over the North Pacific where people in LA saw it from? Or was it really near Los Angeles?

a reply to: game over man

You don't see the second and third stage from the ground. They're far too high and the engine is much smaller than the first stage. The first stage has three exhaust nozzles IIRC, the second and third have a single exhaust nozzle.

What was near California was the first stage. That's the most visible.

a reply to: game over man
The North Pacific is the target range for all missile tests from the West Coast. No, not near Alaska.

I don't know that it wasn't seen from Oregon but since it was headed west, that would be one reason.


It was launched from a submarine off the coast of LA. It flew west from there.