Florida eighth-grader gets detention for hugging a friend

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: Enochstask
This is where Liberal insanity has run amok. The Department of Education needs to be scrapped.

I wouldn't go blaming Liberals only some religiously run schools that are mainly conservative in political outlook is just as nanny as any nutty liberal can come up with.

If you read my post properly you would see I didn't blame public or private schools. I put the blame squarely on the Department of Education which is full of nut job Liberals that indoctrinate our children's minds with propaganda.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: Annee
My grandson's elementary school has a "hands off, no physical contact" policy.

I think its pretty standard these days.

I'm betting this girl knows her school has this rule.

Elementary school, that's how we are living right now, kids may not point a gun finger, hug your buddy toss your friend to the ground and rough housed ,for fear of...it will lead to something

When a rule is put in place like that,it absolves the teacher or officials of making individual judgments per case people don't need to think and it bleeds into grownup society also, sometime back I posted of a life guard that got fired for saving someone's life on a public beach while he was on duty on an adjacent private beach, he judged that person's life was endangered and was punished for leaving his post..let her drown was the message being sent.

Yes.

No touching stops bullying too.

Many keep stating how the schools aren't teaching anymore. I'm finding the opposite. The focus is 100% on learning.

Learning avoid to risk at all cost, not to make individual judgement calls on a case by case basis?? sometime back I posted on a life guard that was fired for saving someone's life , the problem was he was on a private beach and the person whose life he saved was on a public beach, so he made a common sense call and saved her , his reward?? Ur FIRED!! this is what we are teaching the young, don't save a lady if it involves loosening her blouse to save her life in an emergency and you are not a doctor, let her die!!! take no chances that she may sue you for assault.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Annee

School: place of employment.

No. My child does not work for a living.

Do you hug your co-workers?

I have, yes. I also married one. What's your point?

LOL, I married a co-worker too.

I don't know if its good or bad or somewhere in-between. The kids seem to adjust to it.

We're only in first grade.

originally posted by: Spider879

When a rule is put in place like that,it absolves the teacher or officials of making individual judgments per case people don't need to think and it bleeds into grownup society also, sometime back I posted of a life guard that got fired for saving someone's life on a public beach while he was on duty on an adjacent private beach, he judged that person's life was endangered and was punished for leaving his post..let her drown was the message being sent.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I'm not going to argue it.

a reply to: Annee

I don't know if its good or bad or somewhere in-between. The kids seem to adjust to it.

That's just it. It's mostly in-between and who cares about in-between? Kids adjust, yes. No matter what we try to "teach" them about interpersonal relationships they really only learn it on their own, among their own.

Hard and fast "no touching" rules are great...because they absolve us adults from any actual responsibility in making a judgement call. Not so great if it teaches kids that physical contact of any kind is against the rules.

According to WFTV Orlando, hugging was banned .. in addition to holding hands, linking arms and kissing.

So in 2015 you can commit an act of civil disobedience by hugging a friend. In a Western society.

That is sad.

This isn't stupid (it would be an insult to stupid people to call it such) This is sucking the joy out of life before it really begins for kids. It's cruel.

We're physical contact animals, it's one of our most innate & natural behaviors. Touch. Most people do find solace & comfort in a hug from a friend. most people do use & interpret physical touch as a bookend to body language & facial expressions in communicating. Reading someone comes from A.) Talk, B.) Facial expression, C.) Body language, and D.) Physical interaction.

Anyone supporting these asinine no-touchie policies is doing nothing short of supporting retarding human instincts to the point of losing an important subtle skill, and therefore crippling these kids' social skills from here out. A house of cards can only tolerate so many individual cards being taken out before it collapses. Nice job.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Annee

I don't know if its good or bad or somewhere in-between. The kids seem to adjust to it.

That's just it. It's mostly in-between and who cares about in-between? Kids adjust, yes. No matter what we try to "teach" them about interpersonal relationships they really only learn it on their own, among their own.

Hard and fast "no touching" rules are great...because they absolve us adults from any actual responsibility in making a judgement call. Not so great if it teaches kids that physical contact of any kind is against the rules.

Guess its up to the parents.

And grandparent

a reply to: Annee

I'm old enough to be my daughter's grandparent.
In my household touching of friends and family is allowed. That does not mean it is not supervised.
In my daughter's school touching is allowed. That does not mean it is not supervised.

I've taught (am teaching) my daughter where the lines might be drawn. She understands that there are lines and is learning where they are. She has approached both myself and her school counselors when she has felt those lines may be in question.

originally posted by: Spider879 these soulless automatons running your lives

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Annee

I'm old enough to be my daughter's grandparent.
In my household touching of friends and family is allowed. That does not mean it is not supervised.

We're very touchy feely. Back rubs by/for everyone.

A kick back to the Hippie days I think.

Grandson (8) won't wear clothes that are not soft. Can't get him in a pair of jeans.

Maybe in his case its a good rule

a reply to: Spider879

When I was a kid I thought school was unnatural and evil as it was. The institutional setup, the cold and uncaring manner of my teachers, the ignored bullying, the endless busywork...can't imagine a school where affection is not only discouraged by punished! The female reporter refers to affection as part of what makes us human, but actually kindness and affection IS what we call "humanity."

I hope this warped school is a rare exception from the norm and not a sign of things to come...disturbing!

jesus kids aren,t allowed to hug each other in florida? if laws are that harsh i may need to look them up to see if its ok i hold the gfs hand while we,re there next month or kiss or hug,will we be arrested?

like op says it's not Iraq or Afghanistan ,Somalia ,Yemen or saudi arabia.

no its the world gone mad. just like Britain with health and safety,workman goes into change a lightbulb,can,t do it himself anymore,needs another two people there to help him,1 to hold the steps/ladder and another to hand him the lightbulb. its just crazy.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Annee

I'm old enough to be my daughter's grandparent.
In my household touching of friends and family is allowed. That does not mean it is not supervised.
In my daughter's school touching is allowed. That does not mean it is not supervised.

I've taught (am teaching) my daughter where the lines might be drawn. She understands that there are lines and is learning where they are. She has approached both myself and her school counselors when she has felt those lines may be in question.

^^That's called being a responsible adult there are millions of us left let's hope our numbers increase .

originally posted by: Phage

I've taught (am teaching) my daughter where the lines might be drawn. She understands that there are lines and is learning where they are. She has approached both myself and her school counselors when she has felt those lines may be in question.

I'm kinda on my third generation now.

My daughters are in their mid 40s, I have a 23 year old grandson, a 15 year old granddaughter, and the 8 year old grandson.

All raised without a dad. Besides my own kids, helped raise all the grand kids too.

The 8 year old is high functioning autistic. He has a whole team in public school that works with him. And I work very closely with them.

LOL, I'm not an amateur. (not saying you are )

Make it stop! This is asinine.

This is the time children learn these things. What's appropriate - what's not. It's social development - (or in this case, the lack of). No wonder everybody wants their children in private schools -- where they are permitted to be human.

a reply to: Annee

So you've reared a couple. Big deal. If you really think this no touch crap is the way to go for kids country-wide, why not approach a college or media outlet and propose to volunteer your family to be observed for a year or 2 not touching at all?

You act like it's no big deal, and that it has no effect on people whether or not kids can so much as hug. Betcha you'd be gobbling crow and depression meds trying to be the studied poster family for it.

originally posted by: Nyiah
If you really think this no touch crap is the way to go for kids .

Where did I state that?

originally posted by: sparky31
jesus kids aren,t allowed to hug each other in florida? if laws are that harsh i may need to look them up to see if its ok i hold the gfs hand while we,re there next month or kiss or hug,will we be arrested?

like op says it's not Iraq or Afghanistan ,Somalia ,Yemen or saudi arabia.

no its the world gone mad. just like Britain with health and safety,workman goes into change a lightbulb,can,t do it himself anymore,needs another two people there to help him,1 to hold the steps/ladder and another to hand him the lightbulb. its just crazy.

Jeezus Christ stop playing!! that can't be true , that's that old ethnic joke made real that one that goes how many Poles does it take to screw in a light bulb..ans 3..one to hold the bulb and 2 to turn the table.

I hugged and was hugged throughout my school years. It was wonderful!