Is the News Media Still Suppressing the 911 Truth?

a reply to: Informer1958

Robert Muller head of the FBI said in a live Press release years ago, that we may never know who the real hijacker are, they left no paper trail.

Now, for the rest of the story.

FBI: We Know Who Hijackers Were

The FBI has resolved questions about the identities of the 19 hijackers involved in the Sept. 11 attacks and has discovered places outside the United States where the conspiracy was planned, FBI Director Robert Mueller said Friday.

www.cbsnews.com...

a reply to: skyeagle409

FBI fails to uncover key clues into 9-11

Lack of hard evidence, paper trail hurts efforts to ward off new attacks

By Eric Lichtblau and Josh Meyer / Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON -- For more than seven months, U.S. authorities probing the Sept. 11 attacks have scoured everything from caves to credit cards in the expectation that they would ultimately discover how the 19 hijackers plotted their brazen scheme.

But the global search has produced virtually nothing in the way of hard evidence about the terrorists' planning, and authorities said Monday that they now face the growing realization that they may never know many key details.

That sobering conclusion underscores the skill and sophistication of the al-Qaida terror network in its ability to conceal its activities -- and the equally daunting difficulties that authorities face in heading off another attack, officials said.

The hijackers "left no paper trail," FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III said in the text of a speech the FBI released Monday. "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper -- either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere -- that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot."

His remarks offer the FBI's most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have.

Mueller revealed that investigators believe the Sept. 11 plan may have been in the works for as long as five years, and that the hijackers used "meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy and extensive knowledge of how America works" to conceal their scheme after entering the United States legally from the Middle East.

Investigators have found no computers, laptops, hard drives or other storage media that may have been used by the hijackers, who hid their communications by using hundreds of different pay phones and cell phones, coupled with hard-to-trace prepaid calling cards.

In executing wire transfers to fund the attacks, they were also careful to send money in small amounts, avoiding large cash transactions that would have triggered a government report, Mueller said, adding: "The hijackers did all they could to stay below our radar."

The FBI and other U.S. intelligence agencies have come under intense scrutiny since Sept. 11, and some analysts suggested that Mueller's comments, made in a speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco on April 19, may reflect an attempt to rationalize the intelligence community's failure to pick up on any signs that an attack was imminent.

The White House is deeply concerned about the lack of any evidence that could have foreshadowed the events of Sept. 11, and that is one reason why U.S. counterterrorism authorities intend to keep the nation on an indefinite state of heightened alert, according to a Bush administration official.

www.wanttoknow.info...

News Tuesday, April 30, 2002

Your source came out in November 2, 2001, 4:03 PM

Robert Muller had to retract his information and it was in the Los Angeles Times and the Detroit News website. April 30. 2002.

Apparently Robert Muller was forced to put out misinformation earlier, right after the attacks, and my assumption is that the orders came from the White House.

a reply to: Informer1958

Apparently, you are a bit late and behind the times. Now. for an update, which proves that your source is bogus.

FBI chief Mueller says spy tactics could have stopped 9/11 attacks

Thursday 13 June 2013 15.56 EDT

He described how Khalid al-Midhar, one of the 9-11 hijackers, had called a Yemeni safe house from a phone in San Diego shortly before the attack – a phone call that would have been intercepted and acted upon, claimed Mueller, had today's surveillance system been in place.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: skyeagle409

Your article does not discuss about Robert Muller comments he addressed in Los Angeles Times and the Detroit News website. April 30. 2002.

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, also revealed that US authorities would be taking action against whistleblower Edward Snowden for revealing the extent of its activities, confirming that the FBI and department of justice were taking "all necessary steps to hold the person responsible".

From your source above.

Your News article is addressing Whistle blower Edward Snowden.

The fact is, It has nothing to do with Robert Muller statements made on April 30, 2002 about the 911 hijackers.

Nice try in fooling everyone again.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: skyeagle409

Your article does not discuss about Robert Muller comments he addressed in Los Angeles Times and the Detroit News website. April 30. 2002.

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, also revealed that US authorities would be taking action against whistleblower Edward Snowden for revealing the extent of its activities, confirming that the FBI and department of justice were taking "all necessary steps to hold the person responsible".

From your source above.

Your News article is addressing Whistle blower Edward Snowden.

The fact is, It has nothing to do with Robert Muller statements made on April 30, 2002 about the 911 hijackers.

Nice try in fooling everyone again.

You're right of course. And not even the FBI being able to find a single document linking terror organizations proves that 911 was a black op, probably just verbal only orders, no documents, no memos, etc. Just like a deep unacknowledged special access program.
If this was not the case, then there would be something found by now not counting passports at the bottom of ground zero.
No OS'er will be able to answer for this little problem. A smoking gun.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You're right of course. And not even the FBI being able to find a single document linking terror organizations proves that 911 was a black op, probably just verbal only orders, no documents, no memos, etc. Just like a deep unacknowledged special access program.
If this was not the case, then there would be something found by now not

Thank you for backing up my claim.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You're right of course. And not even the FBI being able to find a single document linking terror organizations proves that 911 was a black op, probably just verbal only orders, no documents, no memos, etc. Just like a deep unacknowledged special access program.

Now, for the rest of the story.

NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES

The 19 hijackers entered the United States a total of 33 times. They arrived through 10 different airports, although -- though more than half came in through Miami, JFK or Newark. A visitor with a tourist visa was usually admitted for a stay of six months. All but two of the hijackers were admitted for such stays. Hanjour had a student visa and was admitted for a stay of two years, and Suqami sought and was admitted for a stay of only 20 days.

The four pilots passed through INS and customs inspection a total of 17 times before 9/11. Hanjour came to the United States to attend school in three stints during the 1990s. His final arrival was in December 2000 through the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky Airport. The three other pilots, Atta, al Shehhi and Jarrah initially came in May and June 2000. They arrived for the last time between May and August 2001. All made a number of trips abroad during their extended stays in the United States.

Of the other 15, only Mihdhar entered the United States left and returned. Nawaf al Hazmi arrived in January 2000 with Mihdhar and stayed. Al Mihdhar left in June 2000 and returned to the United States on July 4th, 2001. Ten of the others came in pairs between April and June 2001. Three more arrived through Miami on May 28th. The INS inspector usually had about one to one and a half minutes to assess the traveler and make a decision on admissibility and length of stay. For all the entries, a primary U.S. INS inspector -- a primary INS inspector would work a lane of incoming travelers and check the people and their passports.

The inspector would try to assess each individuals demeanor. No one noted any anomalies in these passports, despite the fact that we now believe that at least two, and as many as eight showed evidence of fraudulent manipulation. The inspector would use the passport data, especially if it was machine readable, and Saudi passports were, to check various INS and customs databases. The databases would show the person's immigration history information as well as terrorist watchlist and criminal history information.

Of the five hijackers who entered the United States more than once, three of them violated immigration law. Ziad Jarrah entered in June 2000 on a tourist visa, and then promptly enrolled in flight school for six months. He never filed an application to change his immigration status from tourist to student. Had the INS known he was out of status, they could have denied him entry on any of the three subsequent occasions he departed and returned while he was a student.

Marwan al Shehhi came in through Newark in late May 2000, followed a week later by Mohamed Atta. Both were admitted as tourist and soon entered flight school in Florida. In September, they did file applications to change their status. Before 9/11, regulations allowed tourists to change their status at any time so they were in compliance, but both overstayed their periods of admission and completed flight school to obtain commercial pilot licenses. Atta and al Shehhi then left within a few days of one another and returned within a few days of one another in June 2001 -- January 2001, while their change in visa status from tourist to student was still pending.

Atta and al Shehhi did get some attention when both said they were coming back to finish flight school. Primary inspectors noticed with each that their story clashed with their attempt to reenter on tourist visas. The rules required them to get proper student visas while they had been overseas, since their earlier pending applications for a change of status were considered abandoned once they left the United States. Atta and Al-Shehhi were each referred by the primary inspectors to secondary inspections.

At secondary, more experienced inspectors could conduct longer interviews, check more databases, take fingerprints, examine personal property and call on other agencies for help. The inspectors involved have stated they do not remember these encounters. The reports indicate that both men repeated their story about still going to flight school and their pending applications for a change of status. The secondary inspectors admitted Atta and al Shehhi as tourists.

Flight 93 hijacker Saeed al Ghamdi was referred to secondary immigration inspection when he arrived in late June 2001. He had no address on his I-94 form. He spoke little English. He had a one-way ticket and about $500. The inspector wondered whether he was possibly intending to immigrate. Al Ghamdi convinced the inspector that he was a tourist and had enough money. Customs officers took a second look at two of the hijackers but then admitted them. On Marwan al Shehhi's first entry into the United States, a Customs officer referred him to secondary inspection, completed the inspection and released him.

In May 2001, Waleed al Shehri and Satam al Suqami departed Florida for the Bahamas, but were refused admission. On their way back to the United States, a Customs officer conducting a pre-clearance in the Bahamas, referred al Shehri to a secondary inspection. Customs then released al Shehri to return to the United States with Suqami. We do know of one success by immigration secondary inspection the affected the 9/11 plot. An al Qaeda operative, Mohamed al Kahtani arrived at Orlando Airport on August 4, 2001. Evidence strongly suggests that Mohamed Atta was waiting there to meet him. Kahtani encountered an experienced and dedicated inspector, Jose Melendez-Perez, we will hear his story later this morning.

During their stays in the United States, at least six of the 9/11 hijackers violated immigration laws. We have noted Jarrah's failure to adjust his status while he was in flight school and the violations by Atta and al Shehhi. Hani Hanjour came in on a student visa in December 2000, but then did not attend the English language school for which his visa was issue. Nawaf al Hazmi overstayed his term of admission by nine months. Suqami overstayed his term of admission by four months. None of these violations were detected or acted upon by INS inspectors or agents.

www.9-11commission.gov...

Just a bit of information that I am very sure you were unaware of.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Anything from the Gov.com website is mostly proven propaganda to support the OS narratives, furthermore it doesn't changes the facts what Robert Muller said in a Press Release in April 30, 2002 about the 911 hijackers.

You still don't have a case.

a reply to: Informer1958

The fact is, It has nothing to do with Robert Muller statements made on April 30, 2002 about the 911 hijackers.

If you had done your homework, you would have found that his statements were taken out of context and fabricated.

You've claimed that the FBI did not know the identities of the 9/11 hijackers, and your statement is now posted for the record for everyone to review at any time.

Now, let's take a walk over to the FBI website for the rest of the story.

FBI Announces List of 19 Hijackers

Washington, D.C.
September 14, 2001

The following is a list of the nineteen (19) individuals who have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. Information listed for each hijacker differs, but may include date of birth, address provided, or visa status. This is the extent of the information available at this time.

The FBI requests that anyone who may have information about these individuals-even though they are presumed to be dead- to immediately contact an FBI field office or call the toll-free hotline at 1-866-483-5137.

American Airlines #77
Boeing 757
8:10 am departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles
9:39 am crashed into the Pentagon

1) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired.

2) Majed Moqed - No information available.

3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California.

4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey.

5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot.

American Airlines #11
Boeing 767
7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates.

2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida, and Newton, Massachusetts; Believed to be a pilot.

4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot.

5) Abdulaziz Alomari - Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

United Airlines #175
Boeing 767
7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot.

2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

United Airlines #93
Boeing 757
8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco
10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania

1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot.

www.fbi.gov...

a reply to: skyeagle409

If you had done your homework, you would have found that his statements were taken out of context and fabricated.

That is completely untrue.

Do you just make up these fallacies as you go?

FBI fails to uncover key clues into 9-11

You have not Debunked this.

You've claimed that the FBI did not know the identities of the 9/11 hijackers, and your statement is now posted for the record for everyone to review at any time.

The FBI doesn't know who the real hijackers are SAID Robert Muller.

Lack of hard evidence, paper trail hurts efforts to ward off new attacks

By Eric Lichtblau and Josh Meyer / Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON -- For more than seven months, U.S. authorities probing the Sept. 11 attacks have scoured everything from caves to credit cards in the expectation that they would ultimately discover how the 19 hijackers plotted their brazen scheme.

But the global search has produced virtually nothing in the way of hard evidence about the terrorists' planning, and authorities said Monday that they now face the growing realization that they may never know many key details.

That sobering conclusion underscores the skill and sophistication of the al-Qaida terror network in its ability to conceal its activities -- and the equally daunting difficulties that authorities face in heading off another attack, officials said.

The hijackers "left no paper trail," FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III said in the text of a speech the FBI released Monday. "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper -- either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere -- that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot."

Your source, Gov.com have been proven to be Yellow Journalism. The information you are posting is un-trustworthy.

a reply to: Informer1958

It is now very clear now, that you have failed.

You've claimed that the FBI did not know the identities of the 9/11 hijackers, which was in error, and your claim is there for all to read, so I let the FBI debunk your claim because there were aware of the identities of the 9/11 hijackers despite the incorrect information you'd posted.

Let me add this bit of information that I am very sure you were unaware of.

NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES

Monday, January 26, 2004


At least four individuals implicated in the 9/11 plot tried to get visas and failed: Ramzi Binalshibh, Zakariya Essabar, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali and Saeed al Ghamdi. This Saeed al Ghamdi is a different person from the Saeed al Ghamdi who actually became a hijacker. Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni, apparently intended to train as a pilot along with his Hamburg friends, Mohamed Atta, Marwan al Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah.

The four pilots passed through INS and customs inspection a total of 17 times before 9/11. Hanjour came to the United States to attend school in three stints during the 1990s. His final arrival was in December 2000 through the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky Airport. The three other pilots, Atta, al Shehhi and Jarrah initially came in May and June 2000. They arrived for the last time between May and August 2001. All made a number of trips abroad during their extended stays in the United States.

Of the other 15, only Mihdhar entered the United States left and returned. Nawaf al Hazmi arrived in January 2000 with Mihdhar and stayed. Al Mihdhar left in June 2000 and returned to the United States on July 4th, 2001. Ten of the others came in pairs between April and June 2001. Three more arrived through Miami on May 28th. The INS inspector usually had about one to one and a half minutes to assess the traveler and make a decision on admissibility and length of stay. For all the entries, a primary U.S. INS inspector -- a primary INS inspector would work a lane of incoming travelers and check the people and their passports.

www.9-11commission.gov...

And, you falsely claimed that the identities of the 9/11 hijackers were unknown.

a reply to: skyeagle409

You've claimed that the FBI did not know the identities of the 9/11 hijackers, which was in error,

The fact is, There was no error. Now you are making false claims again.

And, you falsely claimed that the identities of the 9/11 hijackers were unknown.

www.9-11commission.gov...

You can spin this anyway you like but the facts are the facts no matter what you try to do.

Of course the Gov.com website going to say anything and everything to support the OS narratives, doesn't mean any of it is true.

Just more Yellow Journalism, there is no credibility in what you are posting.

a reply to: Informer1958

FBI fails to uncover key clues into 9-11

You are in error and here is the proof.

FBI Indentify 9/11 Hijackers of American 11

a reply to: skyeagle409

www.fbi.gov...

What a joke.

7 out of the 19 of those men sued the government to clear their names.

More Yellow Journalism.

a reply to: Informer1958

7 out of the 19 of those men sued the government to clear their names.

Apparently, you are unaware that story was fabricated and look what you have posted.

All they had to do was to check the passenger manifest list and compare the names of the 9/11 hijackers at the flight schools to debunk your claim.

American 11 Flight Manifest Page 1

American 11 Flight Manifest Page 2

The FBI doesn't know who the real hijackers are SAID Robert Muller.

Let's take a look here.

PENTTBOM

The FBI was able to identify the 19 hijackers within a matter of days as few suspects made any effort to conceal their names on flight, credit card, and other records.

www2.fbi.gov...

In other words, you are in error by stating that the FBI was unaware of the identities of the 9/11 hijackers. We can also take a look here.

FBI Identify American 77 Hijackers

FBI List the 9/11 Hijackers

a reply to: Informer1958

You had claimed that the FBI did not know the identities of the 9/11 hijackers and yet, I posted references from the website of the FBI that proved that you are in error because the FBI had listed each of the 9/11 hijackers on its own website.

Linking the hijackers to al Qaeda

The investigators were quickly able to link the 19 men to the terrorist organization al Qaeda, by accessing their intelligence agency files. The New York Times reported on September 12 that: "Authorities said they had also identified accomplices in several cities who had helped plan and execute Tuesday’s attacks.

Officials said they knew who these people were and important biographical details about many of them. They prepared biographies of each identified member of the hijack teams, and began tracing the recent movements of the men." FBI agents in Florida investigating the hijackers quickly "descended on flight schools, neighborhoods and restaurants in pursuit of leads." At one flight school, "students said investigators were there within hours of Tuesday’s attacks."

The Washington Post later reported that "In the hours after Tuesday’s bombings, investigators searched their files on [Satam] Al Suqami and [Ahmed] Alghamdi, noted the pair’s ties to [Nabil] al-Marabh and launched a hunt for him."

On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: skyeagle409

One of the people I know was a K9 dog handler for the Passaic County Sheriff dept (Now retired) - he was the first through
the door when FBI raided house on Union Ave in Paterson NJ . House was being used as a hideout for several of the
hijackers. Trained at local airport. They bought tickets using travel agent down the street

Two of the hijackers used computers at local university (William Paterson) to peruse flights and buy tickets

Another friend of mine worked at the library/

He, along with all the other workers, was interrogated by the FBI to identify the terrorists

If want give you a tour of all the terrorist hangout in the area

Refer to James Bamford "THE SHADOW FACTORY" which lays out all the travels of the terrorists .......

a reply to: Informer1958

What a joke.

7 out of the 19 of those men sued the government to clear their names.

More Yellow Journalism.

Why didn't the ALL POWERFUL CIA silence them before they could sue the government?

originally posted by: samkent
Week after week people post NEW PROOF that 911 was a government operation.
Just yesterday a new video of old CGI fakery was posted as proof the Pentagon was hit by a missile.
If all of this was PROOF why hasn't any of it made it onto the nightly world news?
Why hasn't any of it made it into the news papers?
Why hasn't Pravda printed it?
Why hasn't the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting run any stories about it?

No media outlet is plastering these PROOF(s) on their outlets.

Do you really believe TPTB can stop all of these independent outlets cold?
Last night reporters were going tooth and nail at Ben Carson about his scholarship and violence claims.
Do you believe they get all pussy cat when it comes to 911?

mighty wurtlizter ring any bells? CIA runs all of the media.

They do talk about Benghazi for example but don't mention the attack there happened because it was the site of CIA torturing.

They let us make fun of Ben Carson and presidents like Obama and W because they're not really in charge and are meaningless.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: skyeagle409

Your article does not discuss about Robert Muller comments he addressed in Los Angeles Times and the Detroit News website. April 30. 2002.

The FBI director, Robert Mueller, also revealed that US authorities would be taking action against whistleblower Edward Snowden for revealing the extent of its activities, confirming that the FBI and department of justice were taking "all necessary steps to hold the person responsible".

From your source above.

Your News article is addressing Whistle blower Edward Snowden.

The fact is, It has nothing to do with Robert Muller statements made on April 30, 2002 about the 911 hijackers.

Nice try in fooling everyone again.

he throws out links and hopes no one looks at him. I doubt he reads his own links. I suspect someone is feeding him what to post.