Bernie Sanders files marijuana bill in Senate

a reply to: HighDesertPatriot

Bernie realized that people would have to be high to vote for him.

I may not agree with all of his way of his views, but damn this is pure genius no matter how you look at it.

originally posted by: HighDesertPatriot
a reply to: darkbake

Bernie realized that people would have to be high to vote for him.

So says HighDesertPatriot.

originally posted by: Shiloh7
those with the sport and fitness urge don't usually touch it because they know how it works and those who are going to hit the settee with a good movie or chill out know how it works.

That's odd, because conservative estimates have over half the NFL smoking weed.. The whole article is worth a read, especially the parts about how pro football players use cannabis to battle the effects of concussions - perhaps the single biggest problem the NFL is facing today, and just wait until Will Smith's movie comes out and "sparks up" the topic again. I think this quote is especially telling:

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Though not selected for that reason, 15 of the 16 players I surveyed said they smoke pot. All described using marijuana for medicinal purposes, while four said they also used it for recreational reasons. All 15 said they used pot after games to ease the soreness and injuries. They described smoking marijuana to calm the pain of sore ribs or a bruised thigh. None would say where they purchased the marijuana or how many ounces a week they smoke.

None of the 16 players wanted to be identified, and by no means was this survey even close to scientific. But the results aren't hard to believe. Ten said at least 50 percent use regularly (regularly was defined as two to three times a week). Two said 10 percent, two said 70 percent and one refused to quantify but said "a s--tload." One player who said he does not use marijuana put the number of users at 10 to 15 percent. The other 15 players said they did smoke.

And here's an article describing a study about how cannabinoids benefit pro athletes: For pro athletes, the risks of smoking pot are high — but so are the benefits

a reply to: darkbake

We just had a legalization vote in Ohio this past Tuesday, it failed 1.9 million no to 1 million yes, nearly 2:1 against. Historically Ohio has pretty much been a trendsetter, the nation as a whole takes whatever direction the state does. Taking that into account I can't imagine Bernie's bill has any chance.

a reply to: Aazadan

We just had a legalization vote in Ohio this past Tuesday, it failed 1.9 million no to 1 million yes, nearly 2:1 against. Historically Ohio has pretty much been a trendsetter, the nation as a whole takes whatever direction the state does. Taking that into account I can't imagine Bernie's bill has any chance.

But wasn't a big problem with that the monopolization of only a small group being allowed to grow it?

I read that was a big sticking point in the law...even to those who pushed hard to get it passed.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: darkbake

We just had a legalization vote in Ohio this past Tuesday, it failed 1.9 million no to 1 million yes, nearly 2:1 against. Historically Ohio has pretty much been a trendsetter, the nation as a whole takes whatever direction the state does. Taking that into account I can't imagine Bernie's bill has any chance.

Ohio's bill wasn't just about legalization. It was a "pay to play" bill orchestrated by a few wealthy donors looking to create their own marijuana monopoly in Ohio.

I'm not sure you'd get the same results with a more appropriate bill that wasn't literally designed to monopolize the business.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: Nyiah

yes, but what happens when its legally sold on most corners in the shops?

dope is short bursts now and then is great. Its relaxing, instills creative idea's, calms people..

but when you smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke you become a drag on society. Your social skills diminish, your enthusiasm and motivation diminishes..

meh whats the point.. you americans always know best.. go for it. legalize it.. rest of the world already has their mind made up on you lot.

This is pure speculation & opinion. Many professionals in all sorts of industries use recreationally ; Millions of people, with jobs, families, lives and productive hobbies use it recreationally.

This seems like just a short sighted jab at Americans more so than it is about the topic.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Myself and my 4 buddies that house shared.
Once you smoke constantly like that, you have no motivation. You dont want to go out, you dont want to go to work. You want to relax, on the couch with a smoke day in and day out..

I have to question whether cannabis was the sole or even primary reason for that behavior. You were in your early 20s with 4 roommates, influencing each others' behavior regardless of the presence of cannabis. In my early 20s, I lived in houses with between 4 and 8 roommates each year. We were in great company. We smoked together on rare occasion, but for the most part stuck to beer. What do you think we preferred: going out to classes and our jobs, or watching movies, playing video games and tossing frisbees at the park? The whole "young male roommates freshly free from mom and dad's rules" thing tends to result in laziness, whether there's pot or not. Perhaps your cannabis use was a symptom and not a cause?

Study: Can Your Roommate Affect Your Behavior?

Roommates do affect success in college

a reply to: smirkley

If Bernie gets it passed, he has my vote. It is way past time to end this rediculous war.

It'll be interesting to see if it even gets off the table and sent to the house. I imagine that if the vote could be "secret ballot" type of anonymous vote amongst the members of Congress, (such as, every member of Congress gets a simple index card that says: "Make pot legal at a federal level? Please choose one: check "YES" or "NO" and drop it in the box positioned at your building exit") it would definitely pass. Especially if they only counted the actual votes. A non-vote doesn't count either way. It's simply: should we? or shouldn't we?, and only those who voted count.

Of course, that would never happen: people want to know what their elected reps vote for on bills. That's how we decide who we want to elect, too.

But seriously - if it was an anonymous vote (like the public at large has a right to do during elections)....

I bet it would pass by MILES and MILES.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

It'll be interesting to see if it even gets off the table and sent to the house.

Even if it doesn't it really resonates with many in this country that he is at least trying...something many other candidates are staying far away from.

originally posted by: Flatfish
Ohio's bill wasn't just about legalization. It was a "pay to play" bill orchestrated by a few wealthy donors looking to create their own marijuana monopoly in Ohio.

I read that many people voted against it for that very reason.

A majority of Ohioans support legalization, but not a crony-capitalist quasi-monopoly on production. Issue 3’s detractors successfully argued that defeat now was necessary for a true victory down the road, and combined with the sizable anti-legalization constituency, crushed the referendum by a nearly 2:1 margin

Source

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

It'll be interesting to see if it even gets off the table and sent to the house.

Even if it doesn't it really resonates with many in this country that he is at least trying...something many other candidates are staying far away from.

You got that right!

No one can change the law by themselves, regardless of their intentions and/or position in the political hierarchy.

But one thing is for sure; If it doesn't happen, it sure as hell ain't Bernie's fault. If it's anyone's fault, it's our fault for filling congress with a bunch of bigoted turds.

At least he's out front and trying.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Oh I totally completely agree with you.

He's my guy, for sure - no matter what the election results prove to be.
In fact, I think he's on a page of American History that MOST people agree with, if they'd only listen and not be scared off by him calling himself a "democratic socialist" as brazenly as he does.

He's my hero right now. Totally.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
really? so you think smoking marijuana constantly for weeks on end doesn't give people a lack of motivation? a lack of going out there and doing something?

What junk science is that.. I'm talking from experience. if you sit at home and smoke day in day out you don't feel like doing crap. Your social skills deteriorate and your kidding yourself if you think they don't.

Actually, smoking weed for months, even years on end does not have the effect you think it does....except maybe on you. And, I am not talking "bad science" either, but rather n the order of 50 years experience!

Way back in the 70's, when dinosaurs roamed, virtually the entire "high tech" industry kind of "ran" on weed. Every engineer I knew, from Intel, National Semi, AMD, and all the other big names were "pot heads" to the max...

In our "stoned stupor" we gave you the PC, automated manufacturing, and a plethora of other wonders you now take for granted.

In modern times; weed had provided the residents of Colorado with a "tax rebate", has proven to be a virtual "wonder drug" in the medical industry, and has apparently helped to decreased crime where it is now legal.

What we are observing sir, is the diametric opposite of what you spout...so perhaps you should put down the Vodka and pay attention to your surroundings.

By the way, I smoke it to help with the pain and other issues of Rheumatoid Arthritis, it works wonders. I am now retired, but, in my long career I have been on the teams to design the first PC clone, develop General Motors factory of the future, develop and deploy database functionality to the internet. Today I continue to assist major business develop and employ intelligence methods and apply them to business...you would be shocked at just how far behind the times most businesses are...kind of like out dated ideas of Marijuana use...

a reply to: Agit8dChop

so you think smoking marijuana constantly for weeks on end doesn't give people a lack of motivation?

Funny thing is it depends on the strain you get.

www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com...

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: Nyiah

meh whats the point.. you americans always know best.. go for it. legalize it.. rest of the world already has their mind made up on you lot.

So youre saying we have nothing to lose then?

Drug tests for employers will still be legal, so it cant hurt the workplace much. I know the sloppy pot smokers will get filtered out this way, and thats fine.

Welfare reform is next...

It's ridiculous to see ATS can't look at the issue of marijuana rationally. If you think the average pothead doesn't have less motivation you're in denial. Don't care how unpopular the view is it's so easy to see through direct observation of numerous stoners throughout my years. Exceptions don't break the general truth.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
If you think the average pothead doesn't have less motivation you're in denial.

What's irrational is to think that the legalization would turn everyone into a "pothead".

If that were true, the legalization of alcohol would mean everyone would have become an alcoholic after prohibition...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You and your pothead friends should learn some geography.

a reply to: HighDesertPatriot

LOL! To be fair, how are people supposed to know if you're a Desert patriot who's high, or a Patriot who lives in the high desert? (I live in the high desert, too).