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So, I’m driving to my office to turn in my weekly paperwork. A headlight is out. I see a Tucson Police Department squad vehicle turn around and follow me. I’m already preparing for the stop.
The lights go on, and I pull over. The officer asks me how I’m doing, and then asks if I have any weapons.
“Yes, sir. I’m a concealed carry permit holder, and my weapon is located on my right hip. My wallet is in my back-right pocket.”
The officer explains for his safety and mine, he needs to disarm me for the stop. I understand, and I unlock the vehicle. I explain that I’m running a 7TS ALS holster but from the angle, the second officer can’t unholster it. Lead officer asks me to step out, and I do so slowly. Officer relieves me of my Glock and compliments the X300U I’m running on it. He also sees my military ID and I tell him I’m with the National Guard.
originally posted by: chuck258
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but the question is, or my question is- was this an isolated incidence, does this sort of thing happen often enough to even out being killed when you dont comply.
While I understand the citizenry of this online community are not inclined to trust the establishment, we also have the motto: "Deny Ignorance."
So, in order to do my part to help others deny ignorance, I'd like to make people aware of this gentleman's good experience with the Tucson police department:
originally posted by: madmac5150
I have known a lot of law enforcement folks, military and civilian.
This is my theory... about 1% of them are scumbags. Unfortunately, in this day and age, all we seem to see are the 1% behaving badly.
I have been stopped by LEOs twice while carrying a loaded weapon. In both cases the weapon was not an issue because of the actions I took when stopped. I identified myself as military and informed the officers where the weapon was located. On one instance i was asked out of the vehicle, and was frisked. (I was pulled over on suspicion of DUI at 1 AM in Arizona... I dropped a lit cigarette down inside of my work boots and was driving erratically... can you imagine?) The officer that night had reason to be suspicious, but when I passed a few tests and explained what happened... no big deal.
99% of the LEOs out there are in it for the right reasons, and tend to do the right thing. They are professionals.
(When I was active duty, random people would occasionally pay for my morning coffee as a "thank you"... now, when I see a LEO buying coffee; it's on me)
Why should we hear all the tales of a cop doing his job properly? When it is clearly important to bring it up when they completely fail to do their job.
no one gives orders just to give order (except in boot camp) the point is orders are in reality INSTRUCTIONS. Follow instruction and you wont get in trouble.
Most of these shootings are the direct result of not following a police officers demands. It seems like they escalate a situation with an attitude of non-compliance.
With all the police shooting which are making headlines today, you would think citizens would no better and comply with the officers demands.
And that's what's happening too often. As another poster indicated, the real problem here is when the cop walks free when they really should stand trial. That doesn't help the citizenry feel any more comfortable with the authorities.
However, shooting and killing an individual because they're simply not following an order is not putting the officer in danger.
That is certainly sage advice. We need to train our children to have the proper respect for not only law enforcement officers, but also anyone else that they have to deal with. That's how I was raised.
Joey Jackson who is the attorney who gives advice on CNN said it right. He says he tells his kids, you comply with a police officers orders no matter how much you feel your rights are being violated. He says there is another avenue to get your justice and that's the courts. It's better to walk away with your life and fight a day for your rights in a court of law.
Wikipedia indicates about 1.1 million state and local LEO. And about 120,000 federal. That data is a bit old, so I'd guess about 1.3 million law enforcement officers total.
The corrupt part of the force may only be 1% ....can anyone tell me how many active officers there are approximately in the U.S ?...i tried a search and came up with nada....