Russia sees need for more military cooperation with US

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Xcathdra

Actually no one is talking about regime change.

Liar, thats all they talk about in the Main Stream. Do you work for them, too?

Nope and apparently you dont bother to listen or read. Its directed at Assad.

But by all means continue to call me a liar.. It just means you have absolutely noting to support the claim and dont care for the facts presented about it being just Assad.

Feel free to show me where its the entire syrian government.

Russia just got lying about the Free Syrian Army. Go figure.

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a reply to: Xcathdra

Nope and apparently you dont bother to listen or read. Its directed at Assad.

Just like the main scream media, you come here to make "it" sound like "its" about "Assad". Instead of the real goal, subjugating an entire nation.

Thats the lie.

Feel free to show me where its the entire syrian government.

The whole nation. Saying its "just Assad" is the deception. Also used in Iraq and Libya, Saddam must go, Qaddafi must go.

Its the US and NATO that should go, they should go home.

a reply to: intrptr

Again post your sources showing countries are calling for the removal of the syrian government. You called me a liar and made the claim, now support it or apologize.

a reply to: [post=19981663]Xcathdra[/post
Assad is the head of the Syrian government,therefore he represents the goverment of Syria
is this really hard to understand?
when a new president is elected or in your case/preference, appointed,
a new government with new members is formed.
removal of Assad = removal of his government.
no links or sources required

Too bad Patton wasn't allowed to command his 3rd cavalry into the heart of that socialist parasite in 1944....
Would've saved the world a lot of headaches had we put Stalin (and Mao's) head on a stake.

Anyhow, of course Russia wants our help...their military is a bygone relic of the past...one whose power was always based in bodies rather than technological achievement...
Sure they once had a blossoming scientific community thanks to the incorporated German intellectual influx post WWII....

*****Cue the American liberals vehement defense of their beloved Soviet Union...

-Christosterone

a reply to: all2human

Attempting to spin I see.

The call is for Assad to step down, not the government.

a reply to: [post=19981717]Christosterone[/postIt
It is the government and society they chose, what right does any outsider have in changing it
given the results, I'm 100% certain Syrian's would agree.

a reply to: all2human

The Syrians elected Assad?

lol ok...

a reply to: Xcathdra

A regime that has no support among its own population cannot survive years of civil war, no matter how powerful it is or how much support it gets from abroad, it just goes against all logic.

What is not widely known is that before the uprising of 2011, Assad was a genuinely popular president who enjoyed broad support among most sections of Syrian society. He was even able to drive his own car and walk about in markets with a minimum visible security detail, often drawing large adoring crowds

NATO reveals 70% of Syrians support Bashar al-Assad
www.voltairenet.org...
www.middleeasteye.net...

a reply to: all2human

Lol no he was not. He was and is a dictator who murdered his own people. If we use your logic we can say Kim jong Un is beloved and has the support of the N. Korean people.

a reply to: [post=19982012]Xcathdra[/post
70% of Syrians disagree with you.

a reply to: intrptr

I keep saying Assad needs to go because there was a student protest that started this all off. Assad is guilty of being heavy handed against his own people.

The most likely scenario is a power share agreement with him. Russia's vision of the new Syria seems to be multiple autonomous states that encompasses the various minorities there.

I however believe that the Russian plan is the best option. IE end the war first then let the people speak through referendum. And to end the war I support maintaining a functional government.

Too many countries have been overthrown and disassembled, leaving a nasty power vacuum that caused more chaos and pain for the people.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Assad was elected through whatever process Syria uses and scored 85% of the vote.

That's a pretty clear indication that whoever it is that gets to vote for him are behind him.

Unless it's a North Korean style if election with just one name on the ballot paper and a yes / no vote is all you get.

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: Xcathdra

What is not widely known is that before the uprising of 2011, Assad was a genuinely popular president who enjoyed broad support among most sections of Syrian society. He was even able to drive his own car and walk about in markets with a minimum visible security detail, often drawing large adoring crowds

And then what about those massive protests which started which he sent violent thugs to suppress?

Isn't it strange that he has been president ever since his father was president and nobody else was ever president, and there were no other significant opposition politicians or parties to gain power, ever?

The government is a Baathist dictatorship, has been, and was just like Saddam's Iraq.

All will explode when a US Special Ops guy burns in a cage. It is almost inevitable if we put such small number of ground troops in there. Obama will get lynched if an American he sends there gets set on fire.

a reply to: markosity1973

I keep saying Assad needs to go because there was a student protest that started this all off. Assad is guilty of being heavy handed against his own people.

Every country has those for some reason or other. That was hijacked by subversives sent in by the US, thats how the "revolt" began, Its still subversion from out side.

Been hearing "leaders" must go far too much.

Stop playing along with the main stream 'change of regime' mantra. This is ATS, not CNN.

a reply to: Nikola014

I suppose you have proof since you claim this is the truth

a reply to: intrptr

You'll appreciate this crosstalk episode from RT then. It had me smirking all the way through

You could put a GUN to my head before I'd take the field under a Russian command, the way THEY spend troops.