Researching MIB's and Mothman. Now being followed.

a reply to: EA006

That was my thought exactly. With that being said and him being an active member of the military we are unaware of his security clearance so there is the possibility that he abused it to find new info that we the plebians are unaware of.

originally posted by: tsctsc
I have a strong impression that everytime we bump on something hot, we are put under some kind of surveillance, and I don't think they want it to be discrete. Actually they want you to know you are being screened, or followed or that your PC is being hacked.
*snip*
My own experience tells me that everytime I'm on the track of "something interesting", my internet connection acts bizarre. *snip*

You know, that reminds me of something......

Some years back, I would send a lot of evenings on the computer, and talking to my brother on the cell, since we are both night owls. The topics were always pretty wide-ranging, and most often stuff you'd see discussed here on ATS - conspiracies, cryptozoology, aliens, ghosts, whatever. Not all of the conversation, of course, but a lot. Funny thing, when we'd start on some of those, and not the ones you'd think, the phone had this habit of dropping the call. I could call back, and all would be good, but the drop wold happen regularly, whenever certain topics came up. I don't remember all the specifics, but it wasn't the political stuff, as you might expect, but the more fringe" topics, like Bigfoot and whatnot. Happened too often to be a coincidence. We even joked about listening programs like Carnivore, and how "they" must be messing up when they tapped into the call. You'd even get the sense of someone else on the line, such as (other old timers will remember this) you used to get if someone quietly picked up another extension. Well, we decided enough was enough, and to do something. I'd state out loud, "If you are listening in, please stop making the call drop, because that's annoying, and hey, enjoy the conversation.", and he'd rattle off a long string of words guaranteed to get the attention of a program, if one was in use. When we did that, the calls never, EVER, dropped.

Bizarre, I know, and yes, in the same location as the white truck and other followers. Related? Who knows? I do know that there was government surveillance around there, post-9/11. However, nothing we ever said would have lead to following, so I can't say those things are connected. More likely, the call issue was just some bored surveillance guys that thought we were interesting.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: tsctsc
I have a strong impression that everytime we bump on something hot, we are put under some kind of surveillance, and I don't think they want it to be discrete. Actually they want you to know you are being screened, or followed or that your PC is being hacked.
*snip*
My own experience tells me that everytime I'm on the track of "something interesting", my internet connection acts bizarre. *snip*

You know, that reminds me of something......

Some years back, I would send a lot of evenings on the computer, and talking to my brother on the cell, since we are both night owls. The topics were always pretty wide-ranging, and most often stuff you'd see discussed here on ATS - conspiracies, cryptozoology, aliens, ghosts, whatever. Not all of the conversation, of course, but a lot. Funny thing, when we'd start on some of those, and not the ones you'd think, the phone had this habit of dropping the call. I could call back, and all would be good, but the drop wold happen regularly, whenever certain topics came up. I don't remember all the specifics, but it wasn't the political stuff, as you might expect, but the more fringe" topics, like Bigfoot and whatnot. Happened too often to be a coincidence. We even joked about listening programs like Carnivore, and how "they" must be messing up when they tapped into the call. You'd even get the sense of someone else on the line, such as (other old timers will remember this) you used to get if someone quietly picked up another extension. Well, we decided enough was enough, and to do something. I'd state out loud, "If you are listening in, please stop making the call drop, because that's annoying, and hey, enjoy the conversation.", and he'd rattle off a long string of words guaranteed to get the attention of a program, if one was in use. When we did that, the calls never, EVER, dropped.

Bizarre, I know, and yes, in the same location as the white truck and other followers. Related? Who knows? I do know that there was government surveillance around there, post-9/11. However, nothing we ever said would have lead to following, so I can't say those things are connected. More likely, the call issue was just some bored surveillance guys that thought we were interesting.

Yes, those are exactly the "symptoms". Everytime you mention anything that belongs to a certain list, something weird happen. I had my calls dropped too, I had my internet disconnected, I had my skype blocked, I had my emails verified. It was all pretty ostensive, they are not subtle at all. But when my internet connection was blocked for 3 days, I actually freaked out, kind of waited some men to show up at my door and take my computers away or even worse.

Up to date, I know when I am being "monitored", if you will. But when the threats become too tangible, you either face them or you give up. I don't see any advantage on facing "them" (it's no-win situation), so I technically gave up. From time to time I just have fun with their clumsiness. For me, all the confirmation I need comes from "entering into the surveillance list" again. When that happens I know I'm right, and that's enough as far as I'm concerned I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

a reply to: BlasteR

They want to see if you are on the level or not.

This wasn't a random encounter, no normal driver would slam on the brakes and reverse on a dark country road.
They obviously wanted to let you know where you stood.

And don't doubt for a second they aren't following you around online either.
With today's laws and technology, they could claim that you are a nutjob that may be dangerous and whoosh, there goes your rights. They then have the ability to look at every activity you have ever done online. They'll look at your porn history, your emails, the videos you watch, social media, and whatever else they want.

They love these kinds of sites. The harmless wackos get filtered out and anyone with real substance gets a nice little flag in a database somewhere.
When there is an unlimited budget involved, they can and they will follow/harass anyone they suspect is a threat to the status quo. I have spoken of my own personal experiences and I can tell you one thing: They won't stop until the whole system that supports them is stopped. Or you die. Either choice sucks equally.

Sometimes you can not play the game entirely by going to a pysch ward with what has been happening with you but results may vary. If you are deluded, then you might have to stay a while . If you aren't nuts, the harassment is going to increase tenfold when you get out and then you'll really know what's going on.

It's a game of letting them know that you see them, looking at you, looking at them.

a reply to: thisguy27

If the Ops military he may be a target.
I was reading a story on BIN today, won't link it but it talks about Russian troops in Alaska.
If they invade Alaska, the absence of any military personnel would make it easier to take over.

Just a thought.

a reply to: EA006

I would be interested in reading that article if you could pm it to me,

military assets are always a target and lets not be crazy alaska would be a prime invasion point for the ruskies

a reply to: crimsongod21

I'll link it to you when I get to a P.C today if you haven't already found it...it's worth the read.

Think if i was in OPs situation the 1st thing id do is get one of these
Dash Cam for rear view mirror and start uploading the journeys to somewere safe. Never know..

a reply to: EA006

If the article is from BIN, then it's rubbish.

Two minutes searching confirms my assumption too, as there are 16,000 military personnel stationed in Alaska at 9 installations..

en.m.wikipedia.org...

There are even F-22 Raptors stationed there.

I don't know how or why they would say there's an absence of military personnel in Alaska, it's just plain stupidity.

a reply to: Chadwickus

I didn't post it because it was from BIN.
It was another angle to work with for the Ops story, as I said it was just a thought.

a reply to: TonyS

I agree. People are crazy. Wasn't there a news story recently of someone in a road rage incident following someone all the way home to inact vengeance?