Australia to join Chinese navy exercises in South China Sea

OK, I don’t see how this situation has any possibility of turning out well. We have US warships marking territory; and China and Australia suddenly wanna play games?? I hope this doesn’t go really bad!

Two Australian warships will hold exercises with the Chinese navy in the South China Sea next week, Australia's defense minister said on Thursday, just days after a U.S. navy patrol near a man-made Chinese island in the disputed waters angered Beijing.

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a reply to: Martin75

This will make General MacArther turnover in his grave...

Can our many Aussie members please explain this news?

we are there to gather Intel and assess their capabilities.

This is a great opportunity to gain intelligence on the Chinese fleet. This is a GOOD thing not bad.

IT'S a good idea to try and peacefully get along.
I very seriously doubt they will fire on us.

Just read this on our news and was going to post.

China rebuked Washington for sending a U.S. guided-missile destroyer close to Subi Reef in the Spratly archipelago on Tuesday, saying it had tracked and warned the USS Lassen and called in the American ambassador to protest.

Australia, a key U.S. ally in the region, expressed its strong support for freedom of navigation, while stopping short of welcoming the patrol.

Speculation has risen that Australia might undertake similar exercises, either alongside the U.S. navy or on its own, but any move would risk antagonising top trading partner China.

Euan Graham, director of the International Security Program at the Lowy Institute in Sydney, said Australia would want to try and avoid being seen as "deputy sheriff" to the United States in the region.

"It would be more effective to demonstrate broader international concerns if Australia were to assert freedom of navigation under its own political and operational banner and not to ride U.S. coat-tails," he said.

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Go it alone Australia, smart move I`d say in demonstrating freedom of navigation and not nearly as risky as a US or joint US & Aus patrol.


The naval exercises are also good to gather intel, as others have already suggested.

I'll explain..

The US millcorp propaganda machine has you wound up so tight that even mundane things that happen all the time can now be used to fuel the flames of war.

Have a great day.

Why is this in the WW3 forum? doom porn much??

Us Aussies have a great relationship with the Chinese, we have what you call a Sino–Australian relationship, just because we are allied with the states does not mean we can be friends with other countries.

China is probably more important to us Aussies than the States, cultural, economical and political relationship with China is at an all time high, and lets not forget Australia is apart of Asia.

This I love...

Defence Minister Senator David Johnston has said that under the new government, Australia will move to balance ties between China and the United States, rather than choosing one or the other.

And lets not forget...

Australia has been a vital source of the high technology needed for China to enforce its claims to vast reaches of the western Pacific, including the base technology for the design of the Houbei class missile boat.[

Jealous much?

Jeepers creepers guys and gals. Just calm down OK?

OK, the Chinese are taking the piss and they know it. But they also know this is going to royally piss of the Americans and the Aussies. Everyone else excluding the Japanese are too small to do anything about it. So..... we will. What they are doing is illegal and just plain stupid. You can't, for all tense and purpose, just build yourself a new island off the coast of someone's land and and call it sovereign territory. Further to that, you can't fill said island with military and Navy and whinge when others come close. They have zero claim. The US and the Aussies are more capable at sea than the Chinese and are proving it so. Remember guys, you can't put up a barrier and state "non shall pass" in an international shipping lane? It's like someone putting up a toll both at the entrance to your drive and charging you to enter your own home?

In the big battle of toys, the US will win every time. 100% especially in the Naval arena. Most wars over the last 15 years have been land based. I bet they are just itching to let off some fireworks at sea.

We shall join the Americans as a show of force and to also state that they can't do what they are doing and expect to get away with it.

It will not be long until the Japanese follow suit.

Australia want to buddy up wit the Big Boys on the block.
The title fight has been fought, the US is broke and breaking in to pieces.

We are now friends with the new school bully, no point hanging out with the old school bully when we all know he is gonna get his arse kicked.

Here is a tip USofA, make friends with China, they are bigger and probably stronger

Now lets hope we Aussies can organise some war games in the East Siberian, Okhotsk or Baltic and make more new friends

a reply to: Raggedyman

I'm Sorry, I disagree strongly with your points.

You are so off the mark it's almost delusional.

What, (and I'm all ears) do the Chinese have that could possibly even think of competing with the US Navy?

Austrailia IS AN ALLY to the us and always has been.
WE love you guys,everybody wants a koala bear here.
I applaud this effort and it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with confrontation, it's a good thing.
China isn't going to do a thing except write mean letters to us.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Spot on.

I gave you a star. I'd give you another if I could.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Austrailia IS AN ALLY to the us and always has been.
WE love you guys,everybody wants a koala bear here.
.

We`re keeping the Koalas, you guys can have the Drop Bears.

YIKES!

originally posted by: CaptainBeno
a reply to: Raggedyman

I'm Sorry, I disagree strongly with your points.

You are so off the mark it's almost delusional.

What, (and I'm all ears) do the Chinese have that could possibly even think of competing with the US Navy?

Who cares, really.
They are just some navel exercises with our neighbours, means nothing, we are not at war.

Delusional, me?
You are paranoid.

We are a sovereign nation, I am sure the Yanks can respect that

Stop it, you will go blind.

originally posted by: gps777

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Austrailia IS AN ALLY to the us and always has been.
WE love you guys,everybody wants a koala bear here.
.

We`re keeping the Koalas, you guys can have the Drop Bears.

YIKES!

Send them to China, they'll love'em!

Us Americans have Bigfoot, let the Chinese have the Drop bears. You Aussies need something cute, and not totally lethal.. Keep the Koalas.

Wait...



Nevermind, might wanna send the Koalas to China too.

a reply to: Martin75

Dont panic , Australia is a nation of gamblers for the most part . We are just having in aussie parlance , 50 cents each way .

originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: Martin75

This will make General MacArther turnover in his grave...

Can our many Aussie members please explain this news?

Our NWO govt is very keen these days to form 'bilateral relations' with China. They are a msjor trading customer of ours these days.

Our very pro Australian Govt (of both factions) has allowed the Chinese to buy (not just lease) all the best farming land in the country and buy all the mines. they will soon allow them to bring all their coolies out here to work the frams and the mines.

As our very pro Ausralian govt recongises, the more China is permitted to involve itself in the Australian economy, the more its able to influence Australian govt decision making and action which means the more the Chinese can 'push' policy formation and structure and influence domestic politics.

My suspicion is that one day the Chinese will be permitted, or will it be invited, to appoint a representative to the Australian parliment.

Various US lobbyst and 'advisers' currently play that role for the US.

So, now were are going to engage in a war excerise with China that is designed to build mutual 'respect and understanding' all in the name of building friendly relations with China. I do not know if our role in this excerise is that of the friend or the enemy?

hope that helps

a reply to: Martin75

Australia is pragmatic

Smart

Best of luck to the land down under, god be with you.