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China not afraid of war with USA - Homeland invasion and occupation now possible!

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posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:01 PM

BEIJING — A state-run Chinese newspaper has claimed
the country is "not afraid to fight a war" with the U.S.

"In face of the U.S. harassment, Beijing should deal
with Washington tactfully and prepare for the worst,"
according to the editorial in the Global Times, which
came just a day after an American destroyer sailed
into disputed waters in an open challenge to Beijing.

The newspaper is known to represent the more extreme
and nationalistic views of China's political establishment.
"This can convince the White House that China, despite
its unwillingness, is not afraid to fight a war with the
U.S. in the region, and is determined to safeguard its
national interests and dignity," it added.

WebLink to Story on NBC News:


It looks like china is NOW WILLING to START A WAR
with the USA because the high-level leadership
now thinks the USA has become WEAK militarily
and politically on the world stage!

There will be DIRE CONSEQUENCIES if the
USA does not fix it's current educational,
economic and military standards with
regards to quality of people, and quality
of equipment and the POLITICAL WILL
to use vital resources when necesssary.

Busting some common misconceptions
about the USA's military, it can be shown
that it is INDEED WEAKENING on an absolute
and relative basis which means that sooner
or later we will NOT HAVE A BIG ENOUGH
STICK to ensure that China will be kept
in check. And at the END of this text
is an outline of SEVERE REAL-WORLD
USA is no longer ABLE to defend itself!

--- MYTH: The USA Outspends everyone
--- else combined on it's military.

--------- WRONG !!!!!! ---------

Actually , China has NOW SURPASSED the
United States as the world's LARGEST
spender on their Military department!

What most people DO NOT take
into account is the question of:

"Research and Development Dollars,
Operating Budget and Capital Goods
Purchasing Power Equivalence Formula."

The U.S. Defense Budget is about
$600 Billion while China's is $150
Billion on an unofficial basis.

One must take into account that salaries
for Chinese researchers, mid-level development
personnel and engineers is about 1/3rd of the US.

Then one must add in that the Operating
Costs of all the Chinese tanks, missile systems,
Navy and Army personnel and leadership
is 1/4th (one quarter!) the cost of
the USA's military machine.

The actual MATERIAL BUILD COST of all
those new Chinese missiles, tanks, ships,
jets, etc. is 1/6th of the US.

So the average of 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/6 = 1/4.33

can be calculated and converted from
150 Billion absolute U.S. dollars that
China spends on its Military:

$150 BILLION US absolute value x 4.33 equals
a $650 Billion Dollars US True Equivalent!

AND UNLIKE the US, where the "Black Budget"
(i.e. monies spent on military items and
research NOT publicly reported) is INCLUDED
in the general DOD budget documents (about
$50 billion US in 2015), CHINA's military
Black Budget is TRULY OFF-THE-BOOKS but
various sources in the intelligence
community have reached numbers
somewhere between $15 BILLION
($65 Billion US equivalent) to
as high as $30 BILLION ($130 Billion
US equivalent) , so in fact, the TOTAL
Chinese Military Yearly Budget could be
equivalent to as much as $780 BILLION DOLLARS US !!!!

that number will ONLY INCREASE EVERY YEAR !!!

This means that China will be able
to OVERTAKE the United States just in
Military Spending alone. Then add in
the 300,000 Engineers, Mathameticians,
BioSciences and other PHD level Graduates
that graduate EVERY YEAR in China which
is already FOUR TIMES LARGER than the USA!

It means that the USA is DONE FOR MILITARILY
on an absolute basis by the year 2020!

And as Chinese military training has gone
from ZERO to nearly Hero status in just
15 years and based upon currently rising
and ENFORCED academic standards in China,
I see that it will only another 5 to 10 years
before Chinese Officer-level training
and schooling quality achieves or
surpasses the same level of today's
USAF and US Naval Academy students!

That will be quite a devastating BLOW
to U.S. military capabilities. This year's
Chinese officer cadre (and enlisted members!)
will be the FIRST COHORT to graduate in 4 years
to a MODERN military with MODERN equipment and
Top-Level strategists coupled with a HUGE
(5x Larger than USA!) enlisted cadre of
men and women who will be more than
just adequately schooled and trained!

Question: Can China Defeat the USA today
in the year 2015 in a conventional
Military Confrontation?

The Answer Today is NO!

Ask the SAME question in the year 2020
the answer will be YES! China WILL be
able to defeat the USA in a conventional
military confrontation in the year 2020
due to SHEER NUMBERS OF and the much
increased quality and calibre of equipment
and personnel!

And when combined with the pan-Asian concept
(not just in China!) of "Keeping or Saving Face"
any military confrontations WILL ESCALATE

While the USA's Homeland has not been
truly invaded and occupied for any length
of time in it's past history, by the year
2020 it will be a VERY REAL POSSIBILITY
that China will not only have the NUMBERS,
but the HIGH- ENOUGH QUALITY equipment
and personnel to actually mount a MAINLAND
confrontation and thus OCCUPY the

America, you NEED to fix your economy
and military NOW! or face the VERY REAL
POSSIBILITY of true Military Defeat and
OCCUPATION of the ENTIRE terrtories
of the USA...and...UNLIKE what America
did in 1945 where tthe USA re-built the
former enemy combatants, CHINA WILL
NOT BE AS NICE !!!! They will REMOVE
of any territory they gain!

Again, restore your economy and military
to a powerful state so that you have a
rising and newly POWERFUL CHINA is
kept in check from starting ANY
territorial ambitions !!!
edit on 2015/10/28 by StargateSG7 because: spelling fixes

edit on 10.28.2015 by Kandinsky because: Turned down volume on shouty title

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:04 PM

You're all caps title made my internet ears hurt.

Saying that, American publications blow hard all the time about how "we can kick China's ass from here to Sunday"...what does it take to be qualified as a publication...better yet a publication of any repute or value?

Yeah. Not scared of the Chinese invasion anytime soon. The pacific is a pretty good buffer. They stand a better chance at decimating the population by tainting all goods with arsenic and cyanide before sending them to be mass consumed by the US.
edit on 28-10-2015 by the owlbear because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:04 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7
I'll need sources for those pieces of information please, otherwise this is just doom porn.

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posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:09 PM
Lucky China, didn't spend a dime on development of weapons systems.
They stole them all from us for nothing.
Plus they haven't drained their resources in decades of war like the US has.
They may actually have an advantage by now but you would never hear that from the MSM.

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posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:11 PM

originally posted by: StargateSG7

They gonna walk here?

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:12 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

In face of the U.S. harassment, Beijing should deal with Washington tactfully and prepare for the worst,"
according to the editorial in the Global Times.....

I hardly think an editorial opinion piece from some newspaper writer constitutes a declaration, or intent of a declaration, of WAR against the USA.

edit on 28-10-2015 by windword because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:13 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

someone running an article in a paper, and their government willing to 'start' a war with the most powerful military on the planet are 2 very different things. hate to point out the obvious but apparently its needed.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:14 PM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: StargateSG7

They gonna walk here?

Maybe the adults...the kids are too busy making new iPhones and stuff to consider the journey. Of course when the adults get here we can always give them jobs making a new transcontinental railroad...

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:16 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

According to official and Unofficial sources we out spend all countries.Further more there is a difference in saying that "China is not afraid to fight a war with us" and "China is not afraid to START a war with us". There is a difference. And you trying to dramatize all this does not make it so. The US military has long suspected that our next big war will be with China. But too late,we have already been sold out. You see,China has been making our motherboards,chips etc for our computers that run our war machine. Now,think about it,why would you let a nation that you think you'll be going to war with in the future,build parts of your war machine? Because you are going to let them win it. Why? No idea.But I have heard that China will be the up and coming world leader in the future from other conspiracy sites.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:16 PM
How are they getting here?

They haven't the airlift, or sealift, capability to anything of the sort to Taiwan, muchless the United States. Please take the fear mongering down a notch or five.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:17 PM
Pure B.S. Homeland invasion and occupation. That is patently absurd. "You can't invade America. There is a gun behind every blade of grass." --MIS attributed to Yamamoto, but still, although libs would faint at the thought of pulling a trigger (The horror of it all!) there are plenty of us left over willing to defend the country.

The fact is that it is not economically advantageous for China to go to war with the US in any form whatsoever. There's nothing to gain. Do you understand this? China makes everything, and they sell it to the US and Europe. If that trade were stopped, the Chinese economy would collapse, and if that happened they have a billion people to worry about.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:26 PM
China wouldn't make it pass one major US city.

They would have to nuke the crap out of us. The notion of a conventional war with the US is laughable.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:26 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

The chinese have numerical superiority as far as raw numbers are concerned but not at sea and they as yet do not have qualitive superiority in spite of there lower R&D costs and higher expenditure on new military technology's, they are still 20 to 25 years behind the US black budget secret military development and maybe even further, however while I am absolutely certain the US black budget has meant they have and may continue to have qualitive superiority for many years to come they do not have sufficiant numbers of these black budget developed technologys to counter the quantitive imbalance of the chinese.

If there is going to be a conflict then it HAS to happen now or I am afraid you are correct and every major independant military analyst in the world agree's, currently the US could wipe the floor with Chinas Naval and Air forces but not there army and within an estimated 10 years at chinese military expansion rates they will surpass parity with the US Military forces becoming the dominant force as far as numbers are concerned.

Remember a lot of there R&D is stolen technology and science obtained from Mercantile Traitors and there own intelligence staff in the US, they have also obtained information and technology from other sources such as via there investments in Europe and with Cameron so far up the chinese leaders arse if looked like he had four leg's I do not trust my countrys allegiance any more.

This is all a product of Rich Corporate lobbyists on both side of the Atlantic outsourcing to Communist china and taking our Job's, Our Skill's, Our technologys, Our invention's and sciences to China out of Greed and the promist of Cheap labour with lax employment legislation and no worker right's.

Now WE and our nations are paying the cost of these scum bag's mercenary attitudes, I have not bought a Dyson since he laid of the english workers and moved is company to china and if Tesla does the same to the americans as has been reported to be a long term plan then if you are patriotic to your nation you should refuse to buy there branded tech.

There are many good people in china but there political system and human rights abuse as well show that they are not a good nation anyone should be doing business with, let alone training there workers and exporting our technologys to them as we have already done.

As for what they do when they sieze a territory, the Tibetan's are force sterilized while ethnic HAN chinese are brought in to replace them and populate Tibet with Chinese, the Tibetans' are a dying people and now only make up a fraction of there own countrys population as a direct result of this sterilization and resettlement program which is a long standing policy of the Chinese HAN biased communist party, HAN are the most numerous chinese ethnic grouping and actually regard themselves as superior human's, sound's more nazi than communist when you look at that eh?.

Remember this though, any conflict with them will also uncork north korea and lead to an innevitable nuclear exchange so if the US is forced to take action it has to be quick, massive, devastating and precise and for once I think that a viable lightning nuclear strike on both north Korea and Beijing is a valid military option, indeed it may actually be the only way the US can maintain its own security and that of it's allies though this would undoubtedly devastate south Korea as well and have dire consequences for Japan, Russia may not stand on the sidelines if this occures either so the US has to get NATO back on board NOW.

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posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:27 PM
I hope Americans are actually arrogant enough to think the Chinese wouldn't succeed.
Remember: your 'enemy' succeded, with a communist regime, where you didn't.
If you don't believe me. Ask a hungry, homeless Chinese.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:29 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

The USA would never invade China and China has no ability to invade the USA. This is simply doom porn.

If a war did break out it would be fought at sea and possibly asian allies to the US like Japan. The US navy would crush the Chinese navy. The islands are a response to an inferior navy and to threaten US trade and US allies.

and no I'm not just saying this to support the US military, its just the truth. Our pacific fleet owns the sea and our aircraft carriers are the best in the world and we have 10 actual carrier and 9 semi carriers.

China has one

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:33 PM

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: StargateSG7
I'll need sources for those pieces of information please, otherwise this is just doom porn.

Yes and I will need dates !

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:42 PM
a reply to: LABTECH767 Ya, that's a great idea. First strike China and N. Korea, cause we can't have anyone havin a bigger military than us. What an asinine, childlike comment. Are you a shill?

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:45 PM
Anymore, whenever I see news like this, I immediately consider it an organized setup of some kind.

We all know the power that China has. They have problems, yes, but are slowly overtaking the world economy and buying up plenty of real estate We are aware of the debt ratios and how much of ours they hold.

We know plans are made behind closed doors. We know the U.S. has significant issues pretty much all around, but markedly in the economy.

Why wouldn't it go down slowly like this?: Come; breach our waters. We'll give a warning. Things will escalate.We will begin to start a pretty quiet "war" with each other. China will "win" either quickly or over a great deal of time depending on the world reaction. We'll combine power and eliminate your debt issues. You'll have our protection from other nations and there will be no opposition due to our combined strength. You'll implement aspects of our society into your culture over time and bring the population to respect our leadership. Together, the U.S. and China will maintain world dominance under Chinese rule and no one will know the difference.

All of these political and military actions don't just happen without a reason. There's a plan and it may not be exactly what I've stated above, but no matter what, we'll be blind to it.

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:47 PM
a reply to: StargateSG7

Its just propaganda.

Chinese news agencys should be taken as seriously as fox "news".

posted on Oct, 28 2015 @ 03:48 PM
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

All the need to do is land in Mexico and the could walk North and right past the non guarded boarder and then they could get driver licenses, vote, and have over one kid. The my could take over without firing a shot

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