Timewave Zero and the Eschaton of July 8 2018

Good afternoon people of ATS, you might remember the thread that constituted the heart of the 2012 mystical phenomenon. I was one of the leading posters, coming in support of Evasius to go on after he " retired " from posting and I live in Italy, a country which has chosen to reconsider the importance and valuability of timewave zero Novelty Theory and to continue researching for alternative zero dates. Also, Mckenna's cooperator Peter Meyer has written an article and a new graph in which he indicates a new zero date/ eschaton date on July 8 2018.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.fractal-timewave.com...

Quoting from the link:

A plausible choice for a revised zero date could be based on the assumptions:
1. The peak at the start of a major descent of the timewave corresponds to an event of great novely (whose effects play out in the period following).
2..The zero date is likely a date in the early 21st C.
3.The attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 2001-09-11 is the event of greatest novelty in living memory.
#1 is a standard axiom of Timewave Zero theory. #2 might even be strengthened to assert that 9/11 was the event of greatest novelty in all of human history. It left everyone gobsmacked and its consequences affected everyone on the planet due to the subsequent policies and actions of the G.W.Bush administration.

The three points on the timewave which are the initial points of the three deepest descents of the timewave occur 1,536 days prior to the zero date, 3,136 days prior and 6,144 days prior. When we add these numbers of days to September 11, 2001, we obtain: 2005-11-25, 2010-04-13 and 2018-07-08 respectively. Since our revised zero date must be in the future, that leaves just one candidate: July 8 2018 Thus this zero date is now built in to the online timewave calculator.

Novelty points on the new timewave from 2008 to now:

January 1 2008 - March 6 2008 - Novelty jump

The Taliban threaten to escalate attacks in Afghanistan after a year of record violence. (The Independent)
Venezuela introduces the new Bolívar Fuerte currency (ISO 4217, code: VEF) to combat inflation. (ABC News)
Fatah-Hamas conflict: At least eight people have died in factional fighting in the Gaza Strip in the past 24 hours, reports say. (BBC News)
Cyprus and Malta adopt the euro currency, becoming the 14th and 15th countries to do so. Cypriot pound and Maltese lira notes and coins will remain valid in shops until the end of the month, and exchangeable at the respective central banks for some years. (BBC News)
A fire in a church in Eldoret, Western Kenya kills fifty people who were sheltering from violence after the disputed presidential election. (AP via Google Red News)
US Diplomat John Granville, working for the United States Agency for International Development in Sudan, is murdered. (AP via Google News)
Thiyagarajah Maheswaran, a minority Sri Lankan Tamil parliamentarian, is shot dead at a Hindu temple in Colombo, Sri Lanka.(Times of India)

The discovery of the Rings of the Saturnian moon Rhea, the first known rings around a moon, is announced. (NASA)
The United States Senate passes legislation providing for more rigorous inspection of toys and other playthings imported into the United States. (AP via USA Today)
At least eight people, including four children, are killed and dozens wounded in a shooting attack on the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva in Jerusalem. (AP via WTVJ)
At least 54 people die and 130 are injured as two bombs explode in Baghdad, Iraq. (BBC News)
Viktor Bout, one of the world’s most notorious arms dealers, is arrested at a hotel in Thailand. (The New York Times)
Paul Burrell, Princess Diana's butler, refuses to be questioned about whether he lied to the inquest into her death in 1997. (Reuters)
A bomb causes minor damage to the door of a U.S. military recruiting center in Times Square, New York City. (Reuters)
Philippine authorities arrest three people accused of plotting terrorist attacks on foreign embassies in Manila. (BBC News)

A peak on September 14 2008, the day before the Lehman Brothers Bankruptcy. And another on November 17 2008. And than on December 27 2008, day a Gaza battle started.

Notable novelty points in 2009: April 26 and 30, swine flu, June 26 2009 M. Jackson hysteria hits the web, a peak on March 28 2009 and between April 22 and 26 2009, May 21-29. Novelty on July 31 2009. Peak on August 26-30. September 16 2009, September 29 2009, October 20 2009, December 6 and 16 and novelty on December 23 and 31 2009.

originally posted by: Zagari
Good afternoon people of ATS, you might remember that constituted the heart of the 2012 mystical phenomenon.

You mean the phenomenon where some people just told lies and made crap about doom porn up! Nothing happened like was "predicted", all the predictions were total failures.

a reply to: Zagari

This is what shows up when I click your google link:

So you are copying and pasting text for your material (evident by the awkward spacing/paragraphing), and trying to connect supposed "trigger events" to changes in the Timewave.

Sorry bud, you can't just take a dump on the lawn like the neighbor's dog, and call that art. That's not how it works.

continuing:

2010 Novelty jump from February 8 2010 to April 13 2010:

Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir could still face charges of genocide in Darfur. (BBC)
Dr. Conrad Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in pop singer Michael Jackson's death.(BBC)
The sodomy trial of Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim is halted after his lawyers attempt to have the judge removed. (Bernama) (Al Jazeera) (UPI)
Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yanukovych appears to win the 2010 presidential election, with 98% of the ballots counted. (Kyiv Post) (The New York Times) (The Hindu)
At least 17 Indian soldiers are killed in an avalanche in Kashmir. (Indian Express) (BBC)
Space Shuttle Endeavour launches successfully from Kennedy Space Center at 4:14 EST, marking the beginning of STS-130, a two-week mission to the International Space Station. (UPI)
The World Health Organisation confirms that a cholera outbreak which has spread along the north coast of Papua New Guinea has hit more than 2,000 people, killing around 50 of them. (The Sydney Morning Herald)
A colony of Galapagos Islands sea lions relocate 1,500 kilometres, the first time they have set up a colony outside the islands. (BBC)
The Boeing 747-8 takes its maiden flight, lasting just under four hours.
A series of avalanches at the Salang tunnel in Afghanistan is presumed to kill 64 people, with at least 400 injuries reported. (The New York Times) (Toronto Sun)
Reform of the banking system was one of the key themes at this year’s World Economic Forum in Davos. European Parliament Vice-President Silvana Koch-Mehrin said "There was general disapproval of the disproportionate self-rewarding in the banking sector". (Gov Monitor)

Nuclear Security Summit: President of the United States Barack Obama opening the biggest international meeting hosted by the US since 1945, greets leaders from nearly 50 countries. World leaders at the summit hear dire warnings of the danger of nuclear material falling into the wrong hands. (BBC News)
The Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, says that his government thwarted an attempt to sell highly enriched uranium on the black market last month. (The Guardian)
Hu Jintao, President of the People's Republic of China, meets with President Barack Obama to discuss Iran's nuclear program. (CNN)

A magnitude 6.9 earthquake strikes southeastern Qinghai, China, near the Yangtze River. There were no immediate reports of casualties. (The Associated Press)(Vancouver Sun)
A bar of radioactive cobalt-60 found in a New Dehli market causes life-threatening radiation sickness in one person and contingency measures from the authorities. ("The Faster Times")
Kyrgyzstan's ousted president Kurmanbek Bakiyev says he will resign if the interim government guarantees

A peak on September 5 and 14 2010; On October 22 and 24, novelty on the Korean Shelling in 2010.

This is the graph picture for the Whole of 2010, notice that it was an incredibly novel and unique year in graphic signature

www.fractal-timewave.com...

Novelty for 2011:

January 4 2011, February 3 2011 peak, Arab Spring and Egypt Revolution, peak on April 20/22 2011, novelty on April 23/28 2011, peak on May 30 2011, and novelty on the Occupy Wall Street debut on the streets of Ny city.
Another peak on October 1- 3 2011. And on December 27 2011.

Big descent into novelty during November 10 - 21 2011:

www.google.it... com%2Fnews%2F2011%2Fcurrent-events%2Fworld_nov.html&usg=AFQjCNGmDxiU9q7sNXmYP3Bugiwvvg2Pqg

Novelty for 2012:

a peak on June 21 2012, novelty on the Indian subcontinental blackout July 31 2012, and on July 23 2012, novelty on August 25 2012, peak on September 25 2012 and on October 19-21 2012.

Novelty for 2013:
on February 28, Pope renounces role of Christian ruler and Pope, novelty on the day Pope Francis was elected, March 13 2013, peak between May 3 and May 29, and on June 8 2013, when Snowden came out with his own research, novelty on September 21 2013 Kenyan mall terror attack, and peak between November 5 and 9 2013. Novelty on December 10 2013.

Novelty for 2014:
peak on Russian invasion of Crimea's February 28, novelty on Malaysian mystery of plane, March 8, and novelty jump and huge descent between April 24 2014 and June 27 2014.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Zagari
Good afternoon people of ATS, you might remember that constituted the heart of the 2012 mystical phenomenon.

You mean the phenomenon where some people just told lies and made crap about doom porn up! Nothing happened like was "predicted", all the predictions were total failures.

Kind of like a well written thread I remember from somewhere about there not being another Christmas because of a hoax comet strike.

No more nonsense!

Please.

a reply to: Zagari

" continued ....

*5 more posts of copied + pasted text

Regarding the novelty huge descent of April 24 2014- June 27 2014:

Armed conflicts and attacks2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine: The Ukrainian government says it's regained control of the city hall in the eastern port of Mariupol from pro-Russian separatists. Administrative buildings have been taken over in at least a dozen towns in Eastern Ukraine. (BBC)
Washington accuses Moscow of fomenting unrest in the east, with Obama threatening the possibility of applying additional sanctions on Russia.(Reuters)
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accuses the United States of being behind the political upheaval in Ukraine, and said Russia would respond if its interests came under attack. (Reuters)
A battle between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian troops in Sloviansk, Ukraine, leaves 5 pro-Russian militants dead. (Reuters via Yahoo! News)

A policeman shoots dead three American medical staff in the Afghan capital of Kabul. The policeman is reported to have shot himself after the attack. (BBC)
In India, six police and election officials have been killed as violence hits restive Maoist region and Kashmir.(Reuters)
Israeli–Palestinian conflict: Israel suspends peace talks with the Palestinian Authority following an announcement of a unity agreement between the ruling Palestinian faction Fatah and the militant Hamas rulers of Gaza. (The Guardian) (The Times of Israel)

In Nevada the Bundy standoff continues; politicians who had voiced support for Bundy began to distance themselves after the rancher controversially suggested that African Americans might be better off picking cotton as slaves than "under government subsidy". (Fox News)
Politics and electionsIndian general election: There is high turnout in 6th phase of elections for 16th Lok Sabha, in 11 states, for 117 seats and 180 million voters.(Times of India)

The UK government announces that Cornish people will be granted minority status under Council of Europe rules for the protection of national minorities. (BBC)

Armed conflicts and attacksThe San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock USS New York, currently home to the recently captured Ahmed Abu Khattala, goes dark under the order of the brevity code "River City". (Washington Post)
2014 Northern Iraq offensive American human rights group Human Rights Watch claims that Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant executed at least 160 captives earlier this month in Tikrit. (AP via Fox News)

Arts and culturePrince Carl Philip, third-in-line to the Swedish throne, announces that he and former men's magazine model Sofia Hellqvist will marry in the summer of 2015. (The Local)
DisastersAt least fourteen people are killed when a Gas Authority of India Limited pipeline explodes in the East Godavari district of Andhra Pradesh, India. (BBC)
International relations2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine Pro-Russian separatists agree to release four of eight Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe observers held hostage since April. (Reuters via Yahoo! News)

Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement: The European Union signs pacts with Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova in a move strongly opposed by Russia. (BBC)

Amidst staunch opposition from UK Prime Minister David Cameron's ministry, the European Council nominates Jean-Claude Juncker, former Prime Minister of Luxembourg, to be President of the European Commission. (The Telegraph)
A Mexican military chopper flies into the United States and mistakenly shoots at border guards as part of a drug interdiction operation. Mexican authorities apologize for the incident. (RT)
Science and technologyScientists identify a new species of elephant shrew, named Macroscelides micus. (LA Times)

Continuing with novelty points in 2014: July 17 2014, the plane shot down over Ukraine, peak on September 27 2014, and big novelty descent between November 2 and 26 2014, and between December 3 and 17 2014.

November 2 – The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) releases the final part of its Fifth Assessment Report, warning that the world faces "severe, pervasive and irreversible" damage from global emissions of CO2.

November 12 – The Rosetta spacecraft's Philae probe successfully lands on Comet 67P, the first time in history that a spacecraft has landed on such an object.

December 17 – U.S. President Barack Obama announces the resumption of normal relations between the U.S. and Cuba.

Novelty points for the current year of 2015 are: January 8- 11 and 15 2015, during the Charlie Hebdo and France terror attack and march of leaders against terrorism, a peak on March 10 2015, novelty between March 27 and 31, and through April 7 2015 and a very big descent into novelty on May 13 2015:

May 13 2015 current events:

Armed conflicts and attacksSyrian Civil War: Hezbollah and Syrian Army gain strategic territories in Qalamoun Mountains north of Damascus, which was held by opposition factions, particularly al-Nusra Front. (Al Jazeera)
Gunmen open fire on a bus containing members of the Ismaili Shia Muslim community in the Pakistani city of Karachi, killing at least 44 people and injuring a dozen. (Pakistan Tribune), (BBC)
The Government of Iraq claims that Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant second-in-command Abdul Rahman Mustafa Mohammed has been killed in an airstrike in northern Iraq. (BBC)
War in Afghanistan: Gunmen attack a Kabul guesthouse used by both foreigners and locals sparking a gun battle with police. At least eight people including the three gunmen are killed with 16 rescued and 100 still inside. (Thomson Reuters Foundatiion), (NBC News)
Yemen crisis: A five day truce begins in Yemen as various aid groups, including Iran, seek to gain access to the country's ports and airports. Saudi Arabia had blocked Iranian Red Crescent aids recently. (BBC)
A military reservist opens fire at a South Korean military base killing 2 and injuring 3. (Yonhap)
Business and economyJapanese carmakers Toyota and Nissan recall 6.5 million vehicles due to fears over exploding airbags. (AFP via Yahoo!)
The United States Department of Agriculture reports that more than 40% of honey bee colonies died in the preceding year. Farmers rely on honey bees to pollinate over half the country's food supply annually. (Wall Street Journal)
International conglomerate Danaher announces plans to acquire water filtration company Pall for US$13.8 billion and to split off its industrial businesses into a new company. (Bloomberg)
Disasters and accidentsRescue efforts resume in Nepal after yesterday's earthquake which killed at least 63 in Nepal and 17 in northern India. (BBC), (CNN)
2015 Philadelphia train derailment The death toll from the derailment rises to seven with over 200 people injured. (WCAU), (US News and World Report)
Search teams recover the black box. (AFP via News24)
Reports indicate that train is believed to have been traveling in excess of 100 mph (161 km/h), about twice the speed limit for the curve.(CNN)

2015 Valenzuela fire: At least 72 people die after a fire engulfs a rubber sandal factory in Valenzuela City, a northern suburb of Manila, Philippines. (CNN) (Al-Jazeera)
Rescue workers attempt to rescue at least 15 gold miners trapped by floods in a mine in Colombia's Caldas Department. (BBC)
International relationsThe Vatican concludes a treaty to recognize the Palestinian state. (New York Times)
Law and crime2015 Burundian unrest Major General Godefroid Niyombare has declared a coup in Burundi and the establishment of a "national salvation committee".

President Pierre Nkurunziza is attempting to return home from Tanzania. (BBC)
Police in Burundi fire on protesters in Bujumbura opposing the bid by President Pierre Nkurunziza for a third term. (BBC)
Bujumbura International Airport and all land borders are ordered closed by Major General Godefroid Niyombare. (AFP via News24)
Radio Publique Africaine, one of the most popular radio stations, has been burnt down. BBC

The small nation of Nauru temporarily bans Facebook, purportedly to protect young people. (ABC Australia)
Shooting of Tony Robinson: Demonstrators peacefully protest a Wisconsin prosecutor's decision, announced yesterday, not to pursue charges against the officer who shot and killed a 19-year-old. (Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel)
Politics and electionsSouth Korea claims that North Korea has executed its defense chief Hyon Yong-chol with an anti-aircraft gun. (Yonhap) (CNN)
The United States House of Representatives votes overwhelmingly to end the mass collection of Americans' phone data with the USA Freedom Act passing 338-88 (79%). The bill's passage through the Senate is less certain. (The Guardian)

There was also a recent peak on August 13 2015, the Tianjin China explosion happened right there and a big novelty descent between September 9 and 16 2015:
September 10 – Scientists announce the discovery of Homo naledi, a previously unknown species of early human in South Africa.
September 16 – A magnitude 8.3 earthquake strikes offshore Chile, causing a tsunami and 14 deaths, with 6 missing.

Next huge novelty descent lasting 64 days is expected between May 31 2016 and August 3 2016.

Tomorrow we will be in resonance with 1853 Crimean War and Turkey- Russia conflict and given the tension between those two countries coming from the Syrian war involvement something may trigger a real conflict.
Next, we will see resonance with 1859 solar event CME ( December 4 2015 ) and with Usa Civil War between December 13 2015 and January 7 2016.

Basically, if you use Timewave Zero with December 21, 2012 as the zero date TimeWave Zero won't work for any dates past that. So they gave the zero date of the TimeWave an extension until July 8, 2018 based on calibrating it with the September 11, 2001 date. This could mean the world ends on July 8, 2018!

Timewave Zero Online

a reply to: FamCore

I think I got that fixed. Thanks.

a reply to: FamCore

Actually I'm just quoting Meyer's article on zero date reconsideration that has to be used as a key article to a Whole rethinking of the theory and giving a link to Evasius's original thread that contains tons and tons of valuable material that explains the novelty theory for people who missed it.
I am researching historical resonances since at least 2009.

nvm, it's isn't worth it

a reply to: FamCore

I'm posting events that occurred on the days in which the new timewave zero graph shows the most evidence of novelty. Those are the days we were supposed to look for significant increase in novelty.

a reply to: darkbake

No, this just means that the theory is still valid and has been reconsidered, and the Eschaton was often indicated by Mckenna as the day time travel was first actually activated and that would have changed the course of time and history. Eschaton here means a change of direction and structure in time that can be predicted in advance.

History has its own dna and we can explore its essence through historical resonances and novelty peaks and descents.

September 11 2001, within this new graph is shown to be at the beginning of a huge novelty descent, and since it is probably the most novel event in living memory has been chosen as a key date for the theory.

originally posted by: Zagari
a reply to: FamCore

I'm posting events that occurred on the days in which the new timewave zero graph shows the most evidence of novelty. Those are the days we were supposed to look for significant increase in novelty.

No, what you are posting is word garbage. You can tell because it contains mentions to timewave zero, which is garbage.
No more garbage.

a reply to: Jefferton

It is not garbage , it is a theory that had a lot of bumps on the road and happened to be unfortunately linked to a 2012 hoax which has no real correlation with the structure of timewave. It was all part of the beliefs of Mckenna. This new reconsidered graph has no attachment to the 2012 phenomenon and is based on a more practical basis.

P. S. here is the graph for the Whole of 2015:

www.fractal-timewave.com...

My hope is that this theory is not just seen as a past memory of an hoax but as a valuable theory.

The thread of Evasius started with the linking of events of June 2009 with French Revolution. If you use this graph you can see that the Charlie Hebdo terror attack is directly resonancing with 1794 Terror Period of French Revolution.

originally posted by: Zagari
a reply to: Jefferton

It is not garbage , it is a theory that had a lot of bumps on the road and happened to be unfortunately linked to a 2012 hoax which has no real correlation with the structure of timewave. It was all part of the beliefs of Mckenna. This new reconsidered graph has no attachment to the 2012 phenomenon and is based on a more practical basis.

P. S. here is the graph for the Whole of 2015:

Nothing can predict the end of the world. It ends when it ends.

originally posted by: Zagari
a reply to: darkbake

No, this just means that the theory is still valid and has been reconsidered, and the Eschaton was often indicated by Mckenna as the day time travel was first actually activated and that would have changed the course of time and history. Eschaton here means a change of direction and structure in time that can be predicted in advance.

Since when is "timewave zero" a theory? it's an hypothesis at best, based on contrived and flawed mathematics, and hallucinogenic mushroom-induced visions. It's debatable whether it can even be considered a hypothesis, as it can not be used to make falisfiable predictions, since it has this escape clause of "time travel would have changed the course of time and history."

History has its own dna and we can explore its essence through historical resonances and novelty peaks and descents.

History does not have "dna", it does not have an "essence". it is a unit of measure, nothing more. "Novelty Theory" is pseudoscience. It relies on the use of numerology to derive dates of important events in world history, the arbitrary rather than calculated end date of the time wave and the apparent adjustment of the eschaton over and over again to fit past and current events is not scientific at all.

Other dates do not fit the actual time frames, for instance the date claimed for the emergence of Homo sapiens is inaccurate by 70,000 years, and the existence of the ancient Sumer and Egyptian civilisations contradict the date he gave for the beginning of "historical time". Some projected dates have pretty arbitrary labels, such as the "height of the age of mammals" and McKenna's analysis of historical events has a heavy eurocentric and cultural bias.

September 11 2001, within this new graph is shown to be at the beginning of a huge novelty descent, and since it is probably the most novel event in living memory has been chosen as a key date for the theory.

"..and since it is probably the most novel event in living memory has been chosen as a key date for the theory". That is not scientific at all. Arbitrarily choosing a date to make the model kinda work is not scientific. You are supposed to modify the theory to fit the results, not cherrypick results that might support the theory. Besides, I'm pretty sure the events of World War II were a bit more "novel" than 9/11..

The mathematics used to create the "timewave" are deeply flawed. If mathematics is accurately applied, a more trivial and uninteresting waveform is created, which is not fractal but a complex piecewise linear progression. British mathematician Mathew Watkins's mathematical analysis of the "theory" way back in 1994 clearly showed this.

It is not garbage , it is a theory that had a lot of bumps on the road and happened to be unfortunately linked to a 2012 hoax which has no real correlation with the structure of timewave. It was all part of the beliefs of Mckenna. This new reconsidered graph has no attachment to the 2012 phenomenon and is based on a more practical basis.

It is not a "theory" by scientific definition. It barely scrapes through as a hypothesis. It is not backed up by solid mathematics and even if you ignore that, its dates are either totally wrong, or chosen arbitrarily to fit the proposed "model". Novelty is not even quantifiable, let alone predictable.

Funny you say it was "unfortunately linked to a 2012 hoax which has no correlation with the structure of the timewave", when Terrance himself was the one who adopted the mayan calendar end date for the timewave..

I will concede that McKeena is an entertaining chap, and his ideas about mind-expanding natural substances playing a role in our evolution is somewhat interesting. However, "Timewave Zero" or "Novelty Theory" is in fact, 100%, unequivocally, complete and utter pseudo-scientific bollocks.

My hope is that this theory is not just seen as a past memory of an hoax but as a valuable theory.

My hope is that people educate themselves on what a theory actually is, how it is defined scientifically, and how it can be tested objectively, so they don't fall for pseudoscience masquerading as a legitimate, "valuable theory", and waste everybody's time with such nonsense.

"Speculating that when the laws of physics are obviated, the universe disappears, and what is left is the tightly bound plenum, the monad, able to express itself for itself, rather than only able to cast a shadow into physics as its reflection.. It will be the entry of our species into 'hyperspace', but it will appear to be the end of physical laws, accompanied by the release of the mind into the imagination." -Terrance McKenna

He certainly has released his mind into the imagination, I'll give him that. Mushrooms will do that, I guess.