BREAKING: Dashcam Video Just Released Shows Cop Murder Zachary Hammond

originally posted by: jhn7537
Not in a parking lot, which is where they were... But if he gets away out of the parking lot, I'm sure he'd be a MUCH bigger risk speeding away from police.

Thank you for clarifying that being in a parking lot prevents a car from becoming a projectile. I would have assumed that any parking lot with an exit could allow for any projectile to enter traffic.

a reply to: alienjuggalo

reply button on other peoples posts.

a reply to: jhn7537

Thats a JURYs freaking job!

The job of the cop is to bring him in! IE after he drove away to run his details then intercept him later!

Its not to start executing people on freaking ifs and maybes!

a reply to: crazyewok

Right...then why have the avatar of a 232-year-old war loser holding a long gun?

And the British monarchy has been basically defunct since the 18th C. as well, if not before that. It's over, but yet, you still have a Queen and a royal family. Talk about not letting go...

The thing is, I've let go of things from the past (of which I wasn't even a part of, especially). But let's not derail the thread...I was just pointing out an irony. Now I've pointed out two more.

originally posted by: FraggleRock

originally posted by: jhn7537
Not in a parking lot, which is where they were... But if he gets away out of the parking lot, I'm sure he'd be a MUCH bigger risk speeding away from police.

Thank you for clarifying that being in a parking lot prevents a car from becoming a projectile. I would have assumed that any parking lot with an exit could allow for any projectile to enter traffic.

Any time

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Tjoran
a reply to: Vasa Croe

imgur.com...

but its not doing it with any other threads on ats, Really weird.

Could be there is a ban on you posting in the Posse Comitatus forum? Have you been reprimanded for a post anywhere lately?

Not sure, Don't think i ever posted in this forum before. I just look at top and new. Never did anything to get banned though, and i dont start topics.

originally posted by: RickyD
Can anyone who thinks the shooting was justified explain how his reason for killing the kid makes sense... I mean if he was driving at him or trying to hit him it would be really hard for the entry wounds to be where they are...

I mean just because an officer draws his gun does not give him the right to use it unless he has good reason. Shooting a teen for trying to flee is not a good reason!

Exactly why this was not a justified killing, but rather it was Murder.

The Cop was in danger, but only of being disobeyed and having his command ignored...his ego seemed more important to him than the life of a young Human being.

It was Murder due to being pissed off.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: alienjuggalo

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: alienjuggalo

And it wasn't "he might be a threat", he WAS a threat, when you're in a car, made of steel, speeding away from a cop with a loaded gun, you are a threat...

I love hoe you guys keep saying speeding away lmao.. HE was going like 3 miles an hour , watch the video.. Speeding away???

Speeding away? really??

It doesn't take much "speed" to kill/hurt someone in a car. I'm sure you can figure that out... "speed" doesn't need to mean "going 140 mph", but you can tell the driver was "speeding" away... But, hey, keep making excuses for the kid, because all cops are evil....

Lets shoot dead all motorists! Yeeeeehaaaaaaaaa

Not all motorists are speeding away from cops who have their guns drawn and barking orders to stop....

You folks and your comparisons are hilarious....

And you Americans with you obsession with solving every problem with a bullet are hilarious....

Most Americans have never shot anyone, sooooo...... That just makes you look uninformed and overly emotional.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Who says he was from thewar of independence? Redcoats fought in many wars, wars we one, not everything is about the USA you know?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Perhaps that is true, but this IS a Human life we're talking about here, not some celebrity gossip.

A young Man, barely out of Childhood is now dead, purely and simply because he tried to flee a soft drugs arrest.

That kind of thing, with it's apparent increasing frequency in the US is what riles people and rubs them up the wrong way.

Police are supposed to be about Justice, not execution.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: alienjuggalo

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: alienjuggalo

And it wasn't "he might be a threat", he WAS a threat, when you're in a car, made of steel, speeding away from a cop with a loaded gun, you are a threat...

I love hoe you guys keep saying speeding away lmao.. HE was going like 3 miles an hour , watch the video.. Speeding away???

Speeding away? really??

It doesn't take much "speed" to kill/hurt someone in a car. I'm sure you can figure that out... "speed" doesn't need to mean "going 140 mph", but you can tell the driver was "speeding" away... But, hey, keep making excuses for the kid, because all cops are evil....

Lets shoot dead all motorists! Yeeeeehaaaaaaaaa

Not all motorists are speeding away from cops who have their guns drawn and barking orders to stop....

You folks and your comparisons are hilarious....

And you Americans with you obsession with solving every problem with a bullet are hilarious....

Most Americans have never shot anyone, sooooo...... That just makes you look uninformed and overly emotional.

If you noticed I was not referring to all Americans.

Just the ones who think summary execution for minor crimes is a good thing.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Actually, in some states you can shoot a suspect if they're running away--usually if they've committed a felony or you assume that they will be a danger to the public if they escape (you know, like a guy with a gun who just shot someone and takes off running toward a crowded mall with the gun still loaded).

It would be asinine if there are scenarios where LEOs are not legally capable of stopping a fleeing suspect with deadly force. But as I've asserted in previous comments, I'm sure that there is another way that this could have been handled by both individuals, but hindsight doesn't make it the best decision when the incident was occurring.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

It is not a cops job to jump in front of cars. Haha. I bet you won't find one officer who will claim that.

That girl actually ran over the officer in that story.

a reply to: Woodcarver

His foot...not exactly 'run over', which as i'm sure you'll agree paints a completely different picture altogether.

originally posted by: roadgravel
If this is going to be justified as saving the public from danger, I believe cops should shoot any driver appearing to be intoxicated and in moving car.

The department already made a statement on the officer's state of mind. He thought the driver was trying to run him over. That is clearly not the case from the video so he shouldn't be allowed to come up with a new reason.

a reply to: crazyewok

Who says he wasn't from the Revolutionary War?

And haven't you heard, Ptolemy had a model of the universe where everything revolved around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.

It wasn't until he realized the U.S. didn't exist yet that he changed it to include the whole world instead.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Woodcarver

Actually, in some states you can shoot a suspect if they're running away--usually if they've committed a felony or you assume that they will be a danger to the public if they escape (you know, like a guy with a gun who just shot someone and takes off running toward a crowded mall with the gun still loaded).

It would be asinine if there are scenarios where LEOs are not legally capable of stopping a fleeing suspect with deadly force. But as I've asserted in previous comments, I'm sure that there is another way that this could have been handled by both individuals, but hindsight doesn't make it the best decision when the incident was occurring.

Care to cite your sources? The only times an officer is allowed to shoot is if the suspect puts him or the public in danger.

That was not the case in this event. There was no point when the officer should have even pulled his weapon.

So he doesn't have any illegal drugs, has done nothing wrong, then why does he attempt to flee from a police officer?

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: Woodcarver

His foot...not exactly 'run over', which as i'm sure you'll agree paints a completely different picture altogether.

I personally wasn't happy with that officer shooting the girl, but the judge decided it was a clean shooting because the girl "ran over" his foot.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Right, but there is dashcam video, and it wasn't until the officer attempted to place himself between her car and the roadway/gravel road that she ran over his foot.

And just so you know, I have a few LEOs as friends, and I've spoken to them about the Boone-County incident, and they said that they would most likely have done the same thing (at least try to stop the car from leaving...not necessarily firing four rounds into a teenager-filled vehicle).

I'm curious--where do you get your assertion that I won't find one officer who would not say it's their duty to try and impede a vehicle from leaving an attempted traffic stop? Seems like a random, subjective comment to me to try and prove a point that you can't back up.