US navy to send destroyer within 24 hours to challenge China territorial claims.

a reply to: ressiv

A missile from Cuba would land in Florida in a minute. It wouldn't even go up into the orbital phase of flight. They could have hit the Eastern Seaboard causing major confusion in Washington that would have bought time for those missiles to hit DC. A missile from Turkey into Russia fewer major targets that would sow the same confusion, giving Moscow more reaction time.

a reply to: Willtell

Actually it's about world shipping routes and the fact that WE are the best ones travelling the world to KEEP them open.
I guess maritime law is a tad over your head, as well as others here.
NOT about US policies which YES we have broken laws all the time as this current SCUM in office has CLEARLY delineated.

a reply to: ressiv

China just sailed five warships through the US 12 mile limit off the Aleutian Islands and the US barely said a word.

a reply to: Zaphod58

A sea skimming missile that rises up in the last 30 seconds.........would it be picked by any radar.....AWACS probably that also looks down from the sky......anything else.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Tjoran

How?
If they tried it would be considered an attack on our economy, same game there.

Sure, But how would the US respond? If the US responded with violence.. whos the bad guy, at least, Who does the world think that bad guy is. Look, This is going to be a no win situation. Both sides are going to lose if it comes to any one of these scenarios other then china backing off.

a reply to: victor7

They weren't sea skimming missiles though, were they? And our AWACS at the time, as well as radar technology was nowhere near what it is now.

a reply to: Tjoran

You haven't thought it out. China is an exporter. Any nation that violated an American embargo would face direct retaliation, themselves.

If enough countries decided to ignore that embargo the U.S. blockades those exports routes, militarily. Suez canal, Panama canal, The Straits of Hormuz, etc.. China's insurance rates for shipping skyrocket out of economic viability....

China has a large sub force. It's not however, up to the level of U.S. units by a long shot.

Add in the U.S.'s manufacturing capability is dormant, not non-existent. The U.S. can tool up far faster than China can find buyers for their goods, means of shipping oil home to maintain that manufacturing capability... the long and short of it?

China would lose.

a reply to: Zaphod58

So China illegally claims thousands of square miles of sea and territory, and the US is an idiot for sailing through the area legally. Got it.

Well it is stupid if it leads to a war, dont you think?

a reply to: Tjoran

It would depend on the damage.
We don't NEED China's manufacturing alone ,we can order the same(Some would also say better) products from other countries.
China is in NO WAY a ligit threat.

i do,nt think china will do any militairy action they just hit the weakest spot of the US.....The Economy !!!! as keapers of an big hump of the US depts....they can play it out...... And chinese poepple are used to poverty...US not.....of a reply to: InnerPeace2012

a reply to: Zaphod58

My question was pertaining to present. If someone fires a sea skimming missile from say Cuba, then other than AWACS what else would catch it.

a reply to: spy66

Not if you want free international navigation.
AND we can handle China.

a reply to: victor7

The ship getting hit and an immediate submarine response comes to mind...

a reply to: victor7

Depends on what's overhead or in the area. There's not an SBIRS over that area, so any ships, many fighter radars will see it after launch.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: odzeandennz

Except that our destroyer won't be within their 12 mile limit. Artificial islands don't include sovereignty to the waters around them, and these are well outside Chinese territorial waters, or even their EEZ.

That's a load of hogwash, and you know it.

If the Chinese can build an artificial island, it means their landmass extends to that area. You can't build an artificial island in the deep ocean. At which time, it's in their perfect right. An example, Iceland has a 200 mile radius ... because the landbase extends even further than that.

originally posted by: ressiv
i do,nt think china will do any militairy action they just hit the weakest spot of the US.....The Economy !!!! as keapers of an big hump of the US depts....they can play it out...... And chinese poepple are used to poverty...US not.....of a reply to: InnerPeace2012

China might use their fleet to intersept and force the US to change cource. Or they will ram into eachother. This is a alternative way that have been use before.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: spy66

Not if you want free international navigation.
AND we can handle China.

You cant handle China. Stop the crap.

and from Turkey to sebastopol/ kiev ????? come on ..... both sides were very wrong that time ! ... they just played an good pokergame... chroetsjev saved the world by withdrawing the weapons...the US would have hit the buttons as they did before.... .... a reply to: Zaphod58

a reply to: bjarneorn

Under UN law, that China recognizes, man made islands do not extend a twelve mile limit, or territorial waters. Naturally formed islands are a different story.

7. Artificial islands, installations and structures and the safety zones around them may not be established where interference may be caused to the use of recognized sea lanes essential to international navigation.
8. Artificial islands, installations and structures do not possess the status of islands. They have no territorial sea of their own, and their presence does not affect the delimitation of the territorial sea, the exclusive economic zone or the continental shelf.

www.un.org...

You can build all the islands you want in your own EEZ, but whether they're built there or anywhere else they don't have the status of islands. These islands are outside the Chinese EEZ.

a reply to: Isurrender73

And how many times have you been told on here that they would NOT be breaking any laws? Why do you refuse to accept this or even try to comprehend this?