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Need help identifying a Japanese Art print

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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:34 AM
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(ok, trying again, WITH pictures)


First, I know this is a print of the original. My objective is to date and identify the print copy.
I picked this up at a thrift shop while checking out some frames. Bought it for $4.00 after it caught my eye.
I havent cleaned it or removed it from the frame. I want to find out what I have first.





Pine and Plum Trees
By Sanraku Kano
Colour-Press by T. Wada


The T. Wada is the who and when I wish to identify.
I hope to date this print and get a little history on it.


Note the images are currently crappy. I was in a hurry. Better ones soon.

Only the backing paper shows any damage.
The print has a high gloss gold and is highly detailed.
The backing paper has some moisture damage and is torn.

Mirror
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:38 AM
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Kanō Sanraku (1559 – September 30, 1635) was a Japanese painter also known as Kimura Heizō (his birth name), Shūri, Mitsuyori, and Sanraku. Sanraku's works combine the forceful quality of Momoyama work with the tranquil depiction of nature, and they have a more refined use of color typical of the Edo period.

en.wikipedia.org...


Kanō Sanraku, (born 1559, Japan—died Oct. 30, 1635, Kyōto), sixth-generation member of the famous Kanō family of painters to the Japanese shoguns.

He produced some of the greatest screen paintings of the Azuchi-Momoyama period (1574–1600). Sanraku was the disciple and adopted son of the leading painter of the day, Kanō Eitoku, and like him excelled in large-scale decorative designs executed in bold, sweeping lines and brilliant colours against gold-leaf backgrounds. He painted many folding screens and sliding panels, used to decorate the interiors of temples, castles, and palaces. Much of Sanraku’s work still remains: “Birds of Prey,” on the screens in the J. Nishimura collection, Kumamoto City; legendary Chinese figures on a pair of screens in the Tokyo National Museum; and “Trees, Flowers, and Tigers,” on the walls of the Tenkyū-in chapel, Kyōto (designated as a national treasure). Sanraku also introduced a subject that became popular with later Kanō artists, historical figures selected from the Chinese book Ti chien t’u shuo
www.britannica.com...
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:44 AM
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a reply to: smirkley

if u dont find out by morning ill ask my girlfriend she is currently writting a thesis on asian arts(specifically korean, but knows other cultures) and has taught intro to asian art, i took the class, but i failed.
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 01:54 AM
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Thanks. I have searched here and there for a month now, so any info would be great.

At least I THINK it is a print.

Quite honestly the detail and rich color is amazing. The background is very gold-like.

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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 02:04 AM
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Some extra info,...

The print? is on a panel. Not paper or canvas.
The matting looks to be of very high quality.

And again, it is very detailed. The reason I think it may not be a print, is the gold background seems to have texture, and the leaves and flowers are highly detailed and almost appearing raised.

It is behind glass, although the glass appears to be modern.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 02:07 AM
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she is sleeping now, she gets up early to work an at art gallery which specializes in prints, so she may be of help, and just maybe she will see that i dont spend my "valuble time" on "conspiracy sites"..... "researching things that cant be proven"....."and if the conspirecies are true it hurts my head too much to think about"

there is more to that conversation i am just paraphrasing her. But i do get it, who wants to think about conspiracies when one is writing a thesis

she will be happy to look it over though she does love asian art.
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 02:11 AM
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It is most likely painted over gold foil which was prevalent back in the day. That would explain the texture as well as the clarity of the detailed paint. No matter what, I would say keep it and save the historical artwork; If selling, get a few professional appraisals and sell it back to a Japanese that will keep it safe.



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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Did a bit more searching on the colour press name. It is surprisingly difficult to find anything on that name. Very few references out there.
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posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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I am really enjoying finding out more of the original artist.

wiki.samurai-archives.com...



posted on Oct, 24 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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Another link with some interesting commentary.
ichijoji.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 12:58 AM
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so i talked to my pretty lady and she says based on info available printing can create surface texture. if its a print reproduction of a painting its likley that it would be worth more than a poster, which indicates it is most likely to be worth more than the 4 dollars you paid. she doesnt know specific details on the color press artist, but it is worth looking farther into, and it is is worth removing the frame and backing as to discover further information. if there is a stamp or water mark it may lead to more info. and may need further translation.
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posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 01:03 AM
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You be sure to thank her for me.

I already have thought that I may open it up. I am curious as heck about it. Still trying real hard to find out about the Wada name. I know for sure it isnt a poster. It is going to drive me nuts about the colour-press name though.

Thank you too for your help and for asking your girlfriend to take a look.

Much appreciated.
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posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 01:19 AM
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any more info you can find post it here or pm me and ill pass it on to her but its seems your investment of 4 bucks will have a higher return or at the very least have a nice wall hanger that cost less than a hannah montana poster ha
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posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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I will.

No, I like this picture. This what caught my eye in the first place. The history is just bonus. It isnt going to be flipped.
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