Scientists at Large Haldron Collider Hope to Make Contact with Parallel Universe in Days

a reply to: Hyperia

Not everything is based on Reality. People only believe what they are told to believe. People only vomit what they're told to believe.

Conjour - To call upon or command (a devil or spirit) by invocation or spell to call or bring into existence by or as if by magic.

Anyways i can't believe even 1 man on this thread liked the movie upside down. Unbelievable!

Better have Superman or Green Lantern on the hotline...

a reply to: ErosA433 Thank you so much for you are the only one to post some sound information on this subject of what CERN is actually up to.
I think it was months back that I was reading here on ATS about what media keeps trying to plant in the unscientific mind and I fell prey to this doom porn bandwagon that so many like to jump on.
I get easily frazzled and feel so unsettled when so many people spread fear about something they can't themselves understand the reasons for. I see things like ''creating a parallel universe'' or ''creating a potential black whole that will destroy us all'' and in my fear, want nothing more than to slam the scientists.
Last night, I finally went to the source and visited the CERN website and didn't seem to find anything other than that they are trying to understand the workings and understandings of how and why the universe exists.
If, this understanding does help mankind's knowledge of things that's great.
Personally, my mind tends to think if we understood the workings of outer space better and know what to expect of it, then we can forward technology towards traveling the universe. Of course this thinking can easily lead me down a rabbit hole of fear just the same.
So once again thank you for the reply.

The many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics is a theory that explains quantum behavior. So investigating parallel universes leads directly to this area of science. Not to mention that CERN deals mainly in exploring the physics of small particles, which is basically quantum physics.

Wikipedia: Many-worlds interpretation
Wikipedia: Quantum Mechanics

I can't wait to see what they find.

I do think they will find evidence of these other universes eventually because I think the universe will expand ad infinitum. Gravity can never slow down or stop the expansion because of the positive cosmological constant.

So you just have a case of probability. There's finite configurations of matter so these configurations will occur again and again ad infinitum.

You can look at our universe like a deck of cards in poker. In a 5 card hand of poker, there's 2,598,960 configurations that can occur. So in a poker universe that's continues to expand, each poker hand will occur. So you will have more 2 of a kind universes vs. full house universes.

So the question is our we in a configuration that's like a full house in terms of the configurations of matter or are we in a more common universe like a 2 of a kind.

Another problem they're facing is the fine tuning of the universe. Did an intelligence put these laws in place in a way that favors a universe like ours. This would be like fixing a deck so you get more full houses dealt than 2 of a kind hands.

It looks that way because there's no way to naturally explain things like the cosmological constant and fine tuning. This is why they come up with theories like the string theory landscape. This says there's something like 10^500 false vacua that all have different cosmological constants.

I don't see any problem with the LHC creating these mini black holes unless black holes don't evaporate via Hawking Radiation. There's theories like Randall-Sundrum that say black holes don't evaporate but embed themselves in a higher dimensional brain.

So we can create all of these mini black holes and find out 5 years from now that they haven't evaporated.

a reply to: peppycat

No problem at all. Bleeding edge science is extremely interesting and attaining an understanding of the complexities can yield quite elegant and beautiful things.

It is natural to fear what we don't understand, and it is far easier for people to build an idea that fits into ones world view. Many people treat everything with suspicion and paranoia and come to the conclusion that these apparently untouchable, unreachable experiments are all secretive and nefarious.

The truth is far funnier, since the people who work on these things LOVE to tell everyone exactly what they are doing and would invite you to take a look at their lab if they had the time and opportunity.


A anecdote as told/paraphrased from this hears Nobel prize winner... (Can clarify the story as I work in the same department with him and with a lot of the people who where involved back then)

Great example is the Deepest underground clean physics laboratory in the world in a mine in Sudbury Ontario. When the first experiment was being built there local residence hear that it was something to do with nuclear... nuclear! They were scared, didn't want it to be built, wrote angry letters to everyone.

What they had heard was that the experiment planned to use Heavy Water, a key component in certain types of nuclear reactors. Heavy water however is not really radioactive, (most of it is D2O, it is T2O you need to be careful about in regard to radiation), you shouldn't drink it, but basically you can mix it with regular water and it causes absolutely zero issues.

After the locals still would not accept the explanation, the scientists acquired a bottle of heavy water and brought it along to a town meeting along with a bottle of whisky. After a long discussion that appeared to go nowhere, out came the two bottles. He proceeded to pour a measure of whisky to anyone who wanted it. He then took out the water and said "This is a sample of the heavy water which everyone is worried about. The only difference between this water and the water from your taps is the refinement. It is perfectly safe, If it was radioactive I would not be allowed to transport it, I certainly would not carry it in my jacket... now... if you will excuse me, i like a dash of water in my scotch" he put in a good dash of water and downed it.

This very very quickly resolved peoples fears. Truth is that heavy water does exhibit different chemical properties to water, but the effect is slight, and for a human, one would need to ingest probably 50-60% of your body weight of water to feel any ill effect.

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CERN and also the other particle accelerators around the world have a great wealth of knowledge to discover... they should get our support, not our scorn

Prob blow themselves all up...Blackhole thing is crazy if that happens.These scinetist get so gung ho happy over this stuff,they do not even care what happens....Same with the atomic bomb.

where I'm supreme ruler of course

We could never harness enough energy to create a blackhole of any threat or importance... If anything they would just end up creating another atomic explosion but even that wouldn't happen because there is no fuel...

To open a doorway to another universe, again we can't create enough energy to do that.

Everything the collider can do is on a micro scale, not a macro scale...

The only black hole the LHC is producing is in European science budgets. Its a void no tax dollar can escape.
What a boondoggle.

If this darn thing was so awesome why didnt private industry fund it?

Because its a lot of quantum dark phantom string quarky bosun BS thats why.

You want me to buy into the modern physics nonsense... use this thing to produce a mason jar full of dark matter. Then make that dark matter power my car for 10 years.....yeah thats what I thought.

a reply to: Brainiac

Since sub atomic particles are streaming in faster than the speed of light and forming atoms and being held together by the strong force, it seems clear to me the last thing we need to do is send energy waves backward through this projection system , just imagine how much energy those systems operate, then imagine accidentally sending a pressure wave in reverse to the source of all matter that is manifested . it could disrupt matter light years away , and even closer like right here on earth.But man is the inventor of defective machines and he thinks he is god ,so get ready for a wild ride.

a reply to: Dragoon01

Congratulations on writing one of the most profoundly ignorant and anti intellectual posts I've ever had the displeasure to read on here. I'm not even going to address the multitude of factual absurdities in your post, I'm simply going to say this:

Without CERN, we wouldn't have THE INTERNET.
Although, in light of your post, I'm wondering if it was really a step forwards...

Oh yeah, and the electron. What's that ever did for us, eh?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Ok, so we all know the two possible outcomes; either we destroy our universe, or make contact with another one.

Yes but if the alcoholic knows there is a bottle of whiskey in the cupboard...CAN he leave it alone???

I think it's time to collapse the universes into one, otherwise an alien parallel universe general might wanna do it the natural way...

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Yes but if the alcoholic knows there is a bottle of whiskey in the cupboard...CAN he leave it alone???

Ah, yes. The shiny, candy-like button theory.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I believe this story made headlines this past spring. After reading the OP, I did an internet search and it all the articles from mainstream news outlets were from March or April 2015. This is making the rounds this week on conspiracy or alternative news sites. So, my question is, did they do it in the Spring or did something go wrong and did they put it off until the fall??

So here we have more typical human behavior. Causing something that is not supposed to happen to happen anyway just because we're curious.

And people wonder why the church tried to hold science back.

If the ostensible premise of the article in question is that at 9+ or 11+ TeV we might create black holes, contact parallel dimensions, and/or destroy the world, it appears that threshold has already been considerably surpassed.

In June, the collider was operated at 13 TeV.

...the Large Hadron Collider, the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, began its second run of experiments in June, smashing together subatomic particles at 13 teraelectronvolts (TeV) — the highest energy ever achieved in a laboratory.

news.mit.edu...

I think it's safe to say we're all still here, and if any evidence of parallel universes was unearthed in these collisions, no reports of such have surfaced yet that I can find.

Whatever the case, it's evidently not true that the collider has not carried out collisions above the limits these supposed news articles specify.

Peace

Was not my intent to kill the topic or end discussion. :/

Peace.

a reply to: AceWombat04

Its fine, as we have pointed out lots of times, I even threw a plot at this thread... we are all quite safe

as to the whole religious comment there BrianFlanders... Nature does a better job at producing high energy particles... so... actually what we are doing is perfectly in tune with nature.

Evidently the church want ignorance... go read the words all over this website... Deny Ignorance.