Sweden Close to Collapse

originally posted by: CranialSponge
- IF the same amount of migrants keep coming over the next 10-15 years
- IF none of those migrants work and pay into the tax system but instead leech off of welfare
- IF Sweden just sits with their thumbs up their asses and does nothing over the next 10-15 years to remedy the situation

Indeed there is alot of ifs in there... the biggest one being IF people remain greedy as all #.

Not long ago there was news here in Sweden that in some places the cost for supplying a migrant with a home for a month was 80,000+ SEK. For reference, that's what your average worker earn in 4 months before taxes.The buisnesses running this racket see the cash and are foaming at the mouth to exploit it. What do the government do? Well they cant refuse. They need to give those poor immigrants shelter. So they are paying out of their arses to help them. Not so much as the migrant leeching of welfare, but rather the goverment bleeding money like an open wound due to their own stupidity.

Its simply not going to work in the long run. The coming year will be interesting, politically...

originally posted by: mikkelno
a reply to: infolurker
And the US is not having any immigration problems?

Although the USA may have some immigration problems, any immigrants that come here have to bust their backsides to make it.

a reply to: Realtruth

And yet you sit in deep #? How come

originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Our taxmoney can be used for better things than a company which loses money of all its years only once it showed green numbers.. As a Swede, it was cheaper to sell it to China.. Its was just a work camp..

Yes............. True. I remember the joke "You got a bargain there" when referring to the car purchase of a Saab, that it cost much more to build than what you gave the company for their product Still they were awesome, the quality of the steel was second to none, thicker than everyone else's and very high grade. Plus they looked in Turbo 16v form totally mint.

a reply to: xuenchen

I imagine that more & more Europeans will leave Europe if they can afford to (the middle & upper classes), leaving Europe to crumble to pieces thereafter. . . and most of the Muslims will probably leave too once it crumbles because it'll be just as crappy as their home-countries, if not worse. (likely a long-term depopulation scheme)

a reply to: CB328

No it's just facing reality that people want free stuff and It will destroy the economy of any country engaging in socialist enterprise.

originally posted by: CB328
So, this has nothing to do with socialism at all, but you are just using any excuse to attack countries that aren't extreme right-wing cutthroat capitalists?

Actually, it does.

From each according to his means to each according to his needs. Right?

The people of Sweden have means, and the immigrants have needs. Because they have needs and know the people of Sweden have means AND a system that provides for the taking from those with means and the giving to those with needs, the immigrants go to Sweden where the odds are that they will never become those with means themselves.

In such a system, if you have too many with needs and not enough with means, the system must inevitably fail.

a reply to: ketsuko

The world is not complicated, try to remember that..

Now please, stop thinking you know anything about my nation.

a reply to: xuenchen

Choices can have consequences. If this is the end result then people can look at the politicians and people who supported those politicians.

All I will say is if you leave Sweden and go become a citizen of another country because of it. Don't go vote for the same crap you previously did. If that got you to the point you have to leave, just do your new country a favor and don't vote.

a reply to: Hyperia

It applies to anyplace. It applies to my nation.

The system takes from those who have to give to that who don't. It only works if most people work hard to support it rather than taking it for granted with the idea that it is truly only an emergency net, not a way of life. As soon as too many start to take it for granted that the system will always be there and make it a way of life or too many who cannot rise above the level of needing the system come into the system, then the balance is upset rather than maintained.

It can happen anywhere. In this case, the danger is that it can happen to Sweden, but right now, there are many places that are worried it could happen to them because the leaders of those nations are inviting in many people who will likely never rise about needing to rely on the system to support them.

a reply to: ketsuko

We are a socialist Marxist nation, do not worry about us

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: xuenchen
...How it happened I do not know as the Swedes used to be the best educated in europe so they must have not really believed how bad it was going to be...

In most UN and government funded studies, "best educated" only means "best indoctrinated". They convinced a couple of generations that taking boat loads of wealth and allowing the government to redistribute it is a good idea. Countries that vote for that, get good grades from the NWO; countries that don't vote for such nonsense get bad grades. You know this because it's always someone's big government education department, or an alliance of big government education departments, footing the bill for the research studies.

The grades are a pat on the back that their indoctrination methods are working on the next generation.

How else did they think this would play out? That they would join around the campfire and sing songs together? They wanted it and they got it.

a reply to: CB328

YES IT DOES! I can't wrap my head around why people don't understand that the more diverse a population, either in ethnicity, race, or even geographically, the more stress it puts on a "socialist" type state.

Diversity is not the friend of socialism. That's why this is related to socialism.

And the Swedes themselves (the Aryan ones, that is), know what's happening, all too well. Just go to any uncensored discussion forum and witness the vitriol vent...

originally posted by: LABTECH767

Have any of you ever noticed how if you type the word Rothschild you usually get a port scan attack within a few moment's?.

Maybe I am just cynical. I hope that the elitist track everything I post, and every website I read.

I don't use virus protection on my laptop outside of whatever comes with Windows 8. And I have no idea how to protect my smartphone.

I have no fear of death or being a martyr. So it would stand that if they pay attention to everything I do and say they are more afraid of me then I could ever be afraid of them.

Is it just me being cynical or does anyone else think like this?

a reply to: Hyperia

I just wanted to say that I've been enjoying your comments, Swedish guy, thanks for chiming in. I'd like to hear more of your thoughts and more about your country. What do you think of the socialist programs that your country has in place? Do they work for everybody, or do people still get overlooked? How long have these types of programs been in place in Sweden? Do the tax revenues from your people fully pay for these programs, or do you have to borrow money to fund them? I'd assmue that you have a fiat currency central banking money system similar to our own. Is that the case, or is your currency system different?

a reply to: mikkelno

This is just how it seems to me to work in the US, but I don't think I am far off...

1.We let them long hours for slave labor wages.
2.Pay them under the table.
3.Ignore businesses who use said labor.
4.Try not to talk about it too much.
5.If they get out of line, imprison them (again slave labor, but this time it is in a controlled setting and funded by taxpayers)

What do they get in return?
1. They can send some money home to their family members back in SA.
2. They don't usually pay taxes since they are paid under the table.

Its not hard to stop the immigration, its getting the powers through that is hard..

To stop the mass migration make it that you get no benefits for 5yrs and you have had to put in to then get them, no housing given for 2 years MINIMUM.

Only take in suitable candidates

DO NOT take in those with no papers..

Put that in place and I reckon you would see an 89% reduction in people coming BUT a steady stream of people who DO meet the criteria..

Sadly we REFUSE to do this by being bullied by the EU And Obama sticking his nose in (him, NOT the US people)

And more sad, if we don't do this SOON we will ALL be in the same boat...

As I've said before, my in laws are Muslims but they are disgusted by the radicals and their Sharia ways, to quote my mother in law directly "it does not look like England any more, they should go home", they being these radicals.

Radical Islam is destroying anywhere it goes, Germany is being set alight and rapes haves sky rocketed, its the usual story and while these thugs think they are making headway in spreading Radical Islam they will destroy more and more, the crimes will become more hideous as they feel safe to act out the way they behave at home.

Call me a loon but it IS the truth and its heading YOUR way soon...

originally posted by: CB328
So, this has nothing to do with socialism at all, but you are just using any excuse to attack countries that aren't extreme right-wing cutthroat capitalists?

This has everything to do with socialism. Sweden is so highly taxed right now to support it's socialist country that people can't spit without paying a tax. 50% income tax for many and as much as 60%. And having so many new people flooding in is naturally going to be a financial crush. Whos going to pay? Those who are already paying too much? How? Nope, the government will collapse.