Isis destroys triumph arch at Palmyra

a reply to: EartOccupant

The religion of peace in the hands of extremist does it again, why of why people think that they can erase history in their way to dominion, it hurts my hart every time that an ancient site is taken away from future generations in the name of religion, and still people dare to question why I don't follow any organized religion.

a reply to: markosity1973

i don't think its stupid...its misguided.

if its not in the koran, it doesn't matter. meaning that the only history worth keeping is that recorded in the koran.

religious idealism. to compare, we had a movie when i was a kid called "Footloose" that kind of discussed a similar vein in America. Religious idealism is alive and well amongst our neighbors, too.

One of the main reasons I didn't accept an offer from Abilene Christian University was their modesty rules. Basically, i was disallowed from wearing shorts while on campus. Screw that.

a reply to: Astyanax
There is a big difference... I didn't wake up on day hating these religious lunatics,

My hate comes from their speakable actions, but their hate comes from a f@**ing book!!!!
Only someone like them would agree with their medieval ignorant superstitious lunacy that ends up to crimes against humanity!

Their god hates pagans and orders his followers to destroy them

Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices. You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces.
Exodus 23:24

“But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:”
Exodus 34:13

'I then will destroy your high places, and cut down your incense altars, and heap your remains on the remains of your idols, for My soul shall abhor you.''
Leviticus 26:30

''Thus says the Lord GOD to the mountains, the hills, the ravines and the valleys: "Behold, I Myself am going to bring a sword on you, and I will destroy your high places. "So your altars will become desolate and your incense altars will be smashed; and I will make your slain fall in front of your idols.''
Ezekiel 6:3-4

''then you shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images and demolish all their high places; ''
Numbers 33:52

''You shall utterly destroy all the places where the nations whom you shall dispossess serve their gods, on the high mountains and on the hills and under every green tree.
Deuteronomy'' 12:2

''Burn and "utterly detest" the religious symbols of other faiths. They are an abomination to God.
Deuteronomy 7:25-26


Again the other 2 Judaic religions have evolved now inside the modern world unlike these primitive fanatics.
We should save our ancient treasures at any cost and wipe out any modern dark-age crusaders who want to bring 2000 year old darkness, ignorance and suffering to the world.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

Hatred is hatred. Your hate is exactly the same as theirs, except that they have the anger and the courage to take their lives into their hands, to kill and be killed for their beliefs.

Are you Syrian? Do you live in the Middle East? If not, why are you even concerned with this?

Is your country involved in military adventures in the Middle East? Have you volunteered your services? Or are you considering joining one of the volunteer militias fighting IS in Iraq and Syria?

No?

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Dr1Akula

Hatred is hatred. Your hate is exactly the same as theirs, except that they have the anger and the courage to take their lives into their hands, to kill and be killed for their beliefs.
No?

Ok I understand that you admire them a lot... and obviously you agree with their crimes,
But I am not going to ask you the same things as you ask me, because I simply do not care, even if you are one of them.
But every action brings a reaction, they cannot continue like that without consequences.
They should keep their dark age ideas for themselves, none cares wtf mambo jumbo superstitious nonsense they believe, If they don't respect others and act like blood thirsty animals why should anyone respect them.
How can anyone not hate those that bring misery, suffering and threaten others for no other reason than a stupid belief?
How can I not hate someone who would stone me to death as a sinner if he had a chance, simply because I am different?

I am a free man and I can be concerned about anything that happens in the world, without having to explain anything to nobody! and especially to someone who admires isis and their superstitious lunacy.

Also what I do about this, and every other crisis, is my own business.
But just to clear things up, it is a huge global crisis because apart from their other serious barbaric crimes, these mindless terrorists that you like so much, are destroying and vandalizing monuments that belong to the world. Remains of the great Romeo - Greek period, disrespecting my ancestors and their civilization and sacred places, that still even as ruins, bother so much these paranoid barbarians.

Unlike what you think I am not hatred at all, but I know an enemy when I see one, the whole world is aware and these bastards will pay.
Our history is full of real Heroes who deserve respect for giving their lifes for justice, freedom, their family, country etc
People who give their pointless lives just because some others don't believe the same god as they do, are stupid a$$holes and deserve only hate and punishment for not being able to act like humans in a civilized society!

If you encourage the destruction of priceless historic evidence,( priceless ancient architect and art,monuments and protected UNESCO sites), in the name of an arrogant imaginary being in the sky that is somehow jealous of other gods....
then there is no point continuing the discussion since I don't respond to terrorists or religious talibans and their followers or fans, at least not with text.-

a reply to: EartOccupant

I think its pretty clear they were created and funded by US, Israel and Saudi Arabia to fight in Syria. AS soon as they have done their job the people funding them will turn on them and convince us all they are hero's protecting our freedom.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

the problem being that the soldiers believe they are doing the destruction for the right reasons or they have "no" belief in religion at all and couldnt care less what your or I think about it, we live in a sick society regarding religion

Why aren't these sites protected?

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Because the countries in questions are the ones that have been ravished by internal wars.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

Ok I understand that you admire them a lot... and obviously you agree with their crimes

Then you understand nothing.

But that was obvious from the very beginning.

Hatred is a powerful barrier to understanding.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Why aren't these sites protected?

By whom? By what right?

a reply to: Astyanax

Not sure I'd call it dream...

Nightmarish, really.

But, yes, your point remains fundamentally correct.

These are not mercs., or agents of some nefarious cabal, they are dedicated to their cause. As horrific as that cause is. To say otherwise is to underestimate them.

a reply to: Dr1Akula

Courage isn't good. It isn't evil, either. It just is.

One can be brave, and still be wrong. Evil, if you will.

Just because they're doing horrific deeds, doesn't mean they don't have the courage of conviction.

They're as dedicated, in their own nasty ways, as those fighting them, perhaps more so. To defeat them, will require equal dedication.

originally posted by: seagull To defeat them, will require equal dedication.

alternatively

a reply to: Marduk

Not sure what you're getting at.

...and is it wrong that I really like that song? It just sounds so cool. Even though my Russian is, well, limited.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Marduk

Not sure what you're getting at..

This should illuminate it quite well

www.express.co.uk...

...and is it wrong that I really like that song? It just sounds so cool. Even though my Russian is, well, limited.

Yeah, its been used in every War film that ever featured a Russian, what you are experiencing is nostalgia

originally posted by: EartOccupant
Now Isis has blown up the triumph arch in Palmyra...

I can't help thinking there is another agenda with the whole Isis thing.
This is not a religious monument, it's just history.

Can't help thinking they are instructed to do so. Someone is paying or convincing those idiots to do so.

First we get the golf wars where countless ancient treasures were stolen or destroyed.. now we get these "rebels" who blow up the remains of the ancient world.
Is there something that needs to be destroyed and out of sight?
Or are they just trying to piss everyone off, so we are more willing to bomb them ?

It doesn't make sense.

It's always the Westerners who are educated enough to appreciate the ancient culture over there and lament when it is destroyed by those savages. Apparently the ME/Muslims don't care enough and continue to let a few thousand extremists destroy thousands of years of their history.

Destruction of places and people.

You shall know them by the fruits of their labor.

And we wonder why we cant find anything from the macro-past, crazy zealots destroy everything and the cycle continues age after age.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: markosity1973

i don't think its stupid...its misguided.

if its not in the koran, it doesn't matter. meaning that the only history worth keeping is that recorded in the koran.

Incredibly misguided, infact they are practicing a scorched earth plan by including Islamic mausoleums in Palmyra
Source: All dead must die again?

What`s the big deal - the US tried to assassinate Castro with exploding cigars and napalmed Vietnam. This was a building not a human. At least the Moslems are`nt copying (at present). But they may start to copy their US counterparts.

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