MASS SHOOTING reported at Oregon college campus 15 dead atleast MANY MORE INJURED

a reply to: Noinden

Don't get sucked into the old and ongoing "denazification" programs.

Existing governments had to get the monkeys off their own backs, and still do.

a reply to: xuenchen

Try again. I was raised as a socialist (not in the US) and I've studied history. Nazi's were not socialists. They were (and are) a far right political movement. So don't try that tinfoil beanie stuff please.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Gods above and bellow. No they were not. It was (and is, ,becasue we still have them) a far right political movement. The Naiz's targeted socialists for their camps.

a reply to: Noinden

I realize your having been raised as a Socialist and studying Socialist history means you will never be able to see through post-war Socialist revisionist history.


However, the original Nazi Party was The National Socialist German Workers' Party...they were anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist...and represented the epitome of hardcore Socialism.
It's leader was a guy named Adolf, who became the Party's leader. You may have heard of him.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: queenofswords

www.dailymail.co.uk... strikes.html

She's a gun nut and seems to be in fear of the government taking her guns. Probably not what you were thinking?

All these neighbors that say "The guy seemed really lonely. He was alone most of the time. Quiet..."

Yet not a single one of them "Yeah i felt sorry for him and tried to be his friend."

Lonelyness is damaging to a person's brain and a person that is chronically lonely will have mental health issues because of it. Remember that the next time you meet someone who seems really alone, because someone reaching out to them to be their friend, might prevent a mass shooting.

a reply to: Evil_Santa

Remember that the next time you meet someone who seems really alone, because someone reaching out to them to be their friend, might prevent a mass shooting.

Careful your humanity is showing.

Others may get ideas...

The shooter did it because he couldn't find a girlfriend...and because everybody else, but him was crazy.

NOTE: Shooter's name edited out of article by poster.

OREGON SHOOTER RANTS IN WRITINGS ABOUT HAVING NO GIRLFRIEND

ROSEBURG, Ore. (AP) -- The gunman who executed nine people at an Oregon community college before killing himself ranted in writings he left behind about not having a girlfriend and thinking everyone else was crazy, a law enforcement official said Monday.

The official also said the mother of 26-year-old gunman ------------ ---------- ----------- has told investigators he was struggling with some mental health issues. The official is familiar with the investigation but wasn't authorized to speak publically because it is ongoing.

[The Shooter] complained in the writings about not having a girlfriend, and he seemed to feel like he was very rational while others around him were not, the official said.

He wrote something to the effect of: "Other people think I'm crazy, but I'm not. I'm the sane one," the official said. The writings recovered at the shooting scene were a couple of pages long.

hosted.ap.org...

More facts of interest:


I don't know if this is what they meant by a 'drill,' but here is more info on the goings-on a week before:

www.nrtoday.com...
In fact, the school held a brief meeting to cover emergency situations just a week prior, on Sept. 21, in the school’s Jacoby Auditorium. At about 3 p.m., officials from the school’s security conducted a verbal walk-through, building-by-building, of the safe places within the campus’s respective buildings.

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www.nrtoday.com...
... police were able to identify the vehicle of the shooter, which had a number of firearms located within, according to Hanlin.

This is the first I've heard that the shooter drove a car to the site. Why can't we get a picture of the car? Maybe because it didn't belong to him, is my guess.

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www.oregonlive.com...
Oct 5
Officials at Umpqua Community College... have sheathed Snyder Hall in thick black material to spare faculty and students from seeing the site of Thursday's bullet-riddled attack.
... the classroom building where a gunman killed.. is off limits. Thick black material prevents people from seeing inside, and the campus road is barricaded at least 100 yards from the building, Harris said.
Law enforcement officials remain on site at the building, he said.

This is starting to remind me of the way they guarded the building after the shooting at Sandy Hook. They can't just tape some newspaper over the windows or plywood over the broken windows? I guess not. Maybe what they are trying to hide is that there is absolutely nothing to see--no bullet marks, no blood, no broken glass. My hunch: they are going to hold a black mass in the bloody classrooms, celebrating their sacrifice to the dark lord. Plus, Obama is coming to town.

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"I've just been blasted center mass with a Nine, and I'm bleeding like a stuck pig-- I've GOT to tell my friends. They are gonna freak! This is SO cool!"

www.nrtoday.com...
“She laid down on the ground and played dead, and that saved her life,” her mother said.
Cheyeanne(Fitzgerald, 16) was shot in the back, a fact she texted and posted to Facebook during the incident. The bullet went through her lung and lodged in her kidney, and her kidney had to be removed at the hospital.

"Instead of taking a test, she took two to the chest"

a reply to: IAMTAT

Well I see reading comprehension is not your forte... Nazism was a German nationalistic alternative to socialism. It was anti communist. It was racialist. That is NOT socialist. Drop your dogma at the door neighbor.

Where is this manifesto....and why has it not been released?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It may just be them being cautious, and not wanting to build his infamy.

www.buzzfeed.com...

The day of the shooting, the bodies were whisked away for autopsy to Clackamas, OR, a suburb of Portland--175 miles away. The next day, the autopsies having been concluded, they were flown back to Roseburg aboard two Oregon National Guard helicopters.

www.oregonlive.com...-photo
Gov. Kate Brown intervened on behalf of the families last week to get victims' sped back to Roseburg from a Portland-area medical examiners office in military helicopters.

www.oregonlive.com...
.. the bodies of the victims were sent 175 miles north to the State Medical Examiners Office in Clackamas, which handles homicides from Douglas County. ...Grainger said the return was swift enough that the families may not have been aware that loved ones had been taken to Clackamas.

Except Douglas County has their own Medical Examiners facility--located right there in Roseburg, and it is they who handle local homicides, according to their website. And all the neighboring counties have their own MEs, so if Roseburg was overwhelmed they could just ask their neighbors to drive up the road and help out.

So why did they remove all the bodies to the State Medical Examiner's Office, so far away?

www.dcso.com...
The Douglas County Medical Examiner's Office is a state-of-the-art facility with complete autopsy and refrigeration capability. All medical examiner cases in Douglas County are processed through this facility.

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a reply to: starviego

So they could make sure the forensics line up with the story ,allegedly of course

originally posted by: tiredoflooking
So they could make sure the forensics line up with the story, allegedly of course

Yup. I am also suspecting some covert organ harvesting may have happened.

a reply to: starviego

What? are you just making stuff up or got any evidence for your claims?.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
What? are you just making stuff up or got any evidence for your claims?.

No direct evidence, just the fact that the bodies were taken 175 miles away for autopsy; that they were brought back the next day on military helicopters, and that no one seems to know how the bodies were transported from Roseburg to the Portland area, and when exactly this happened.

The best way to quash speculation is to release all the evidence, and, in this case, they are hiding plenty.

a reply to: starviego

Because they are sorting out the evidence first.
Imagine If they released what they thought true as it came in, you would be going potty when they have to correct themselves.
Maybe they are doing the right thing and investigating it all before they release the info.
Did you ever think that the faculties they have locally could;d not have copped with the amount of folk killed?. What If the coroner knew some who died?.
We just don't know but spouting that they may have taken their body parts without any evidence is just stupid.
You are making stuff up to fit your own agenda.