Politics and war....

Ok we all know the claims of war being about money. Even I claim it all the time.

Thought Id start good look myself.

Thought Id start with Raytheon who make a good proportion of the "freedom" the USA and west like to drop on the ME.

Here is a look at there stock prices.



And here are the politicians that own stock.

Cohen, Steve (D-TN)
Collins, Susan M (R-ME)
Hagan, Kay R (D-NC)
Hanna, Richard (R-NY)
sakson, Johnny (R-GA)
Kingston, Jack (R-GA)
Renacci, Jim (R-OH)
Upton, Fred (R-MI)

And here are a list of politicians that have received "donations" in 2014.
Reed, Jack (D-RI) Senate $26,000
Shelby, Richard C (R-AL) Senate $24,500
Cornyn, John (R-TX) Senate $24,000
Cochran, Thad (R-MS) Senate $20,750
Barber, Ron (D-AZ) House $17,880
Jolly, David (R-FL) House $15,500
Clark, Katherine (D-MA) House $15,000
Graham, Lindsey (R-SC) Senate $14,200
Langevin, Jim (D-RI) House $13,250
Reed, Tom (R-NY) House $13,100
Tisei, Richard (R-MA) House $13,000
Young, David (R-IA) House $13,000
Beyer, Don (D-VA) House $12,600
Byrne, Bradley (R-AL) House $12,500
Durbin, Dick (D-IL) Senate $11,750
Brown, Scott (R-NH) Senate $11,450
Cotton, Tom (R-AR) House $11,000
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) Senate $10,950
Daines, Steven (R-MT) House $10,250
Johnson, Sam (R-TX) House $10,213
Aderholt, Robert B (R-AL) House $10,000
Boehner, John (R-OH) House $10,000
Brady, Kevin (R-TX) House $10,000
Calvert, Ken (R-CA) House $10,000
Carson, Andre (D-IN) House $10,000
Clarke, Yvette D (D-NY) House $10,000
Cole, Tom (R-OK) House $10,000
Connolly, Gerry (D-VA) House $10,000
Courtney, Joe (D-CT) House $10,000
Crenshaw, Ander (R-FL) House $10,000
Crowley, Joseph (D-NY) House $10,000
Culberson, John (R-TX) House $10,000
Duncan, John J Jr (R-TN) House $10,000
Edwards, Donna (D-MD) House $10,000
Engel, Eliot L (D-NY) House $10,000
Fattah, Chaka (D-PA) House $10,000
Forbes, Randy (R-VA) House $10,000
Frelinghuysen, Rodney (R-NJ) House $10,000
Granger, Kay (R-TX) House $10,000
Graves, Sam (R-MO) House $10,000
Graves, Tom (R-GA) House $10,000
Guinta, Frank (R-NH) House $10,000
Guthrie, Brett (R-KY) House $10,000
Harper, Gregg (R-MS) House $10,000
Hoyer, Steny H (D-MD) House $10,000
Hunter, Duncan D (R-CA) House $10,000
Jenkins, Lynn (R-KS) House $10,000
Keating, Bill (D-MA) House $10,000
Kelly, Mike (R-PA) House $10,000
Kennedy, Joe III (D-MA) House $10,000
Kilmer, Derek (D-WA) House $10,000
Kingston, Jack (R-GA) House $10,000
Kinzinger, Adam (R-IL) House $10,000
Kline, John (R-MN) House $10,000
Lieu, Ted (D-CA) House $10,000
LoBiondo, Frank A (R-NJ) House $10,000
McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA) House $10,000
McCaul, Michael (R-TX) House $10,000
McGovern, James P (D-MA) House $10,000
Mica, John L (R-FL) House $10,000
Neal, Richard E (D-MA) House $10,000
Noem, Kristi (R-SD) House $10,000
Nunes, Devin (R-CA) House $10,000
Nunnelee, Alan (R-MS) House $10,000
Palazzo, Steven (R-MS) House $10,000
Perlmutter, Edwin G (D-CO) House $10,000
Peters, Scott (D-CA) House $10,000
Pompeo, Mike (R-KS) House $10,000
Price, David (D-NC) House $10,000
Price, Tom (R-GA) House $10,000
Richmond, Cedric (D-LA) House $10,000
Rogers, Hal (R-KY) House $10,000
Rogers, Mike D (R-AL) House $10,000
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana (R-FL) House $10,000
Roskam, Peter (R-IL) House $10,000
Royce, Ed (R-CA) House $10,000
Ruppersberger, Dutch (D-MD) House $10,000
Sanchez, Loretta (D-CA) House $10,000
Schiff, Adam (D-CA) House $10,000
Schock, Aaron (R-IL) House $10,000
Scott, Austin (R-GA) House $10,000
Sessions, Jeff (R-AL) Senate $10,000
Sessions, Pete (R-TX) House $10,000
Shuster, Bill (R-PA) House $10,000
Smith, Adam (D-WA) House $10,000
Smith, Adrian (R-NE) House $10,000
Smith, Lamar (R-TX) House $10,000
Stutzman, Marlin (R-IN) House $10,000
Thompson, Bennie G (D-MS) House $10,000
Thornberry, Mac (R-TX) House $10,000
Tiberi, Patrick J (R-OH) House $10,000
Valadao, David (R-CA) House $10,000
Visclosky, Pete (D-IN) House $10,000
Wagner, Ann L (R-MO) House $10,000
Walorski, Jackie (R-IN) House $10,000
Wittman, Rob (R-VA) House $10,000
Womack, Steve (R-AR) House $10,000
Cicilline, David (D-RI) House $9,500
Young, Todd (R-IN) House $9,500
Markey, Ed (D-MA)
Black, Diane (R-TN) House $9,000
Chabot, Steve (R-OH) House $9,000
Fleischmann, Chuck (R-TN) House $9,000
Lipinski, Daniel (D-IL) House $9,000
Thompson, Mike (D-CA) House $9,000
Boustany, Charles W Jr (R-LA) House $8,500
Larson, John B (D-CT) House $8,500
Salmon, Matt (R-AZ) House $8,500
Turner, Michael R (R-OH) House $8,500
Brooks, Mo (R-AL) House $8,000
Coffman, Mike (R-CO) House $8,000
Coons, Chris (D-DE) Senate $8,000
Hall, Ralph (R-TX) House $8,000
Levin, Sander (D-MI) House $8,000
Marchant, Kenny (R-TX) House $8,000
Pascrell, Bill Jr (D-NJ) House $8,000
Paulsen, Erik (R-MN) House $8,000
Pryor, Mark (D-AR) Senate $8,000
Reichert, Dave (R-WA) House $8,000
Ryan, Paul (R-WI) House $8,000
Toomey, Pat (R-PA) Senate $8,000
Burgess, Michael (R-TX) House $7,750
Bilirakis, Gus (R-FL) House $7,500
Bonamici, Suzanne (D-OR) House $7,500
Booker, Cory (D-NJ) Senate $7,500
Capuano, Michael E (D-MA) House $7,500
Clyburn, James E (D-SC) House $7,500
Cummings, Elijah E (D-MD) House $7,500
Franks, Trent (R-AZ) House $7,500
Hahn, Janice (D-CA) House $7,500
Johnson, Ron (R-WI) Senate $7,500
Kirkpatrick, Ann (D-AZ) House $7,500
Renacci, Jim (R-OH) House $7,500
Roby, Martha (R-AL) House $7,500
Lowenthal, Alan (D-CA) House $7,450
Castor, Kathy (D-FL) House $7,000
Castro, Joaquin (D-TX) House $7,000
Coats, Dan (R-IN) Senate $7,000
Conaway, Mike (R-TX) House $7,000
Cuellar, Henry (D-TX) House $7,000
Duckworth, Tammy (D-IL) House $7,000
Gabbard, Tulsi (D-HI) House $7,000
Gibson, Chris (R-NY) House $7,000
Johnson, Eddie Bernice (D-TX) House $7,000
Larsen, Rick (D-WA) House $7,000
McSally, Martha (R-AZ) House $7,000
Murray, Patty (D-WA) Senate $7,000
Rigell, Scott (R-VA) House $7,000
Risch, James E (R-ID) Senate $7,000
Roybal-Allard, Lucille (D-CA) House $7,000
Lujan, Ben R (D-NM) House $6,500
Maffei, Dan (D-NY) House $6,500
Meehan, Patrick (R-PA) House $6,500
Napolitano, Grace (D-CA) House $6,500
Roberts, Pat (R-KS) Senate $6,500
Tsongas, Niki (D-MA) House $6,500
Stefanik, Elise (R-NY) House $6,250
Stewart, Chris (R-UT) House $6,100
Alexander, Lamar (R-TN) Senate $6,000
Barton, Joe (R-TX) House $6,000
Bass, Karen (D-CA) House $6,000
Brooks, Susan (R-IN) House $6,000
King, Pete (R-NY) House $6,000
Olson, Pete (R-TX) House $6,000
Runyan, Jon (R-NJ) House $6,000
Van Hollen, Chris (D-MD) House $6,000
Whitfield, Ed (R-KY) House $6,000
Cantor, Eric (R-VA) House $5,750
Fischer, Deb (R-NE) Senate $5,500
Israel, Steve (D-NY) House $5,500
Vargas, Juan (D-CA) House $5,500
Comstock, Barbara (R-VA) House $5,250
Warren, Elizabeth (D-MA) Senate $5,250
Moulton, Seth (D-MA) House $5,200
Ayotte, Kelly (R-NH) Senate $5,000

Barrasso, John A (R-WY) Senate $5,000
Bishop, Rob (R-UT) House $5,000
Camp, Dave (R-MI) House $5,000
Cardin, Ben (D-MD) Senate $5,000
Carter, John (R-TX) House $5,000
Cook, Paul (R-CA) House $5,000
Cooper, Jim (D-TN) House $5,000
DeFazio, Peter (D-OR) House $5,000
DeSantis, Ron (R-FL) House $5,000
Deutch, Ted (D-FL) House $5,000
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL) House $5,000
Duncan, Jeff (R-SC) House $5,000
Hanabusa, Colleen (D-HI) House $5,000
Heck, Joe (R-NV) House $5,000
Holding, George (R-NC) House $5,000
Hudson, Richard (R-NC) House $5,000
Hultgren, Randy (R-IL) House $5,000
Issa, Darrell (R-CA) House $5,000
Kuster, Ann Mclane (D-NH) House $5,000
Latham, Tom (R-IA) House $5,000
Miller, Candice S (R-MI) House $5,000
Moran, Jim (D-VA) House $5,000
Petri, Tom (R-WI) House $5,000
Schatz, Brian (D-HI) Senate $5,000
Schweikert, David (R-AZ)
Scott, Tim (R-SC) Senate $5,000
Sherman, Brad (D-CA) House $5,000
Strickland, Tony (R-CA) House $5,000
Shaheen, Jeanne (D-NH) Senate $4,900
Bennet, Michael F (D-CO) Senate $4,500
Ellmers, Renee (R-NC) House $4,500
Inhofe, James M (R-OK) Senate $4,500
Messer, Luke (R-IN) House $4,500
Rokita, Todd (R-IN) House $4,500
Gomez, Gabriel (R-MA) Senate $4,100
Blunt, Roy (R-MO) Senate $4,000
Capps, Lois (D-CA) House $4,000
Dent, Charlie (R-PA) House $4,000
Donnelly, Joe (D-IN) Senate $4,000
Frankel, Lois J (D-FL) House $4,000
Gerlach, Jim (R-PA) House $4,000
Marino, Tom (R-PA) House $4,000
Perry, Scott (R-PA) House $4,000
Poe, Ted (R-TX) House $4,000
Portman, Rob (R-OH) Senate $4,000
Rahall, Nick (D-WV) House $4,000
Ryan, Tim (D-OH) House $4,000
Sanchez, Linda (D-CA) House $4,000
Simpson, Mike (R-ID) House $4,000
Wilson, Joe (R-SC) House $4,000
Begich, Mark (D-AK) Senate $3,500
Bridenstine, James (R-OK) House $3,500
Collins, Doug (R-GA) House $3,500
Enyart, William (D-IL) House $3,500
Enzi, Mike (R-WY) Senate $3,500
Lankford, James (R-OK) House $3,500
McMorris Rodgers, Cathy (R-WA) House $3,500
Meng, Grace (D-NY) House $3,500
Schneider, Brad (D-IL) House $3,500
Sires, Albio (D-NJ) House $3,500
Speier, Jackie (D-CA) House $3,500
Vitter, David (R-LA) Senate $3,500
Warner, Mark (D-VA) Senate $3,500
Weber, Randy (R-TX) House $3,500
Westmoreland, Lynn A (R-GA) House $3,500
Collins, Susan M (R-ME) Senate $3,450
Blackburn, Marsha (R-TN) House $3,000
Farenthold, Blake (R-TX) House $3,000
Fortenberry, Jeff (R-NE) House $3,000
Gallego, Pete (D-TX) House $3,000
Garamendi, John (D-CA) House $3,000
Griffin, Tim (R-AR) House $3,000
Johnson, Hank (D-GA) House $3,000
Kirk, Mark (R-IL) Senate $3,000
Loebsack, David (D-IA) House $3,000
McIntyre, Mike (D-NC) House $3,000
Rogers, Mike (R-MI) House $3,000
Sewell, Terri A (D-AL) House $3,000
Sinema, Kyrsten (D-AZ) House $3,000
Southerland, Steve (R-FL) House $3,000
Stockman, Steve (R-TX) House $3,000
Terry, Lee (R-NE) House $3,000
Bera, Ami (D-CA) House $2,500
Bucshon, Larry (R-IN) House $2,500
Carper, Tom (D-DE) Senate $2,500
Denham, Jeff (R-CA) House $2,500
Grayson, Alan (D-FL) House $2,500
Higgins, Brian M (D-NY) House $2,500
Love, Mia (R-UT) House $2,500
McKeon, Buck (R-CA) House $2,500
Meadows, Mark R (R-NC) House $2,500
Reid, Harry (D-NV) Senate $2,500
Roe, Phil (R-TN) House $2,500
Thompson, Glenn (R-PA) House $2,500
Wicker, Roger (R-MS) Senate $2,500
Wyden, Ron (D-OR) Senate $2,500
Yoder, Kevin (R-KS) House $2,500
Young, Don (R-AK) House $2,500
Udall, Mark (D-CO) Senate $2,300
Labrador, Raul (R-ID) House $2,250
Mooney, Alex (R-WV) House $2,250
Amodei, Mark (R-NV) House $2,000
Becerra, Xavier (D-CA) House $2,000
Duffy, Sean P (R-WI) House $2,000
Fleming, John (R-LA) House $2,000
Hensarling, Jeb (R-TX) House $2,000
Horsford, Steven (D-NV) House $2,000
Kaine, Tim (D-VA) Senate $2,000
Kaptur, Marcy (D-OH) House $2,000
Lamborn, Douglas L (R-CO) House $2,000
Lowey, Nita M (D-NY) House $2,000
Miller, Jeff (R-FL) House $2,000
Nolan, Rick (D-MN) House $2,000
Nugent, Richard (R-FL) House $2,000
Pastor, Ed (D-AZ) House $2,000
Payne, Donald M Jr (D-NJ) House $2,000
Posey, Bill (R-FL) House $2,000
Radel, Trey (R-FL) House $2,000
Rooney, Tom (R-FL) House $2,000
Rubio, Marco (R-FL) Senate $2,000
Tipton, Scott (R-CO) House $2,000
Udall, Tom (D-NM) Senate $2,000
Veasey, Marc (D-TX) House $2,000
Farr, Sam (D-CA) House $1,500
Heller, Dean (R-NV) Senate $1,500
Hill, French (R-AR) House $1,500
Isakson, Johnny (R-GA) Senate $1,500
Moran, Jerry (R-KS) Senate $1,500
Thune, John (R-SD) Senate $1,500
Tierney, John F (D-MA) House $1,500
Walden, Greg (R-OR) House $1,500
Ernst, Joni (R-IA) Senate $1,300
Gillespie, Ed (R-VA) Senate $1,250
Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA) Senate $1,250
Sullivan, Mike (R-MA) Senate $1,250
Takano, Mark (D-CA) House $1,250
Barr, Andy (R-KY) House $1,000
Bishop, Sanford (D-GA) House $1,000
Casey, Bob (D-PA) Senate $1,000
Chaffetz, Jason (R-UT) House $1,000
Collins, Chris (R-NY) House $1,000
Cruz, Ted (R-TX) Senate $1,000
DeLauro, Rosa L (D-CT) House $1,000
Dold, Bob (R-IL) House $1,000
Flake, Jeff (R-AZ) Senate $1,000
Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) Senate $1,000
Gosar, Paul (R-AZ) House $1,000
Hagan, Kay R (D-NC) Senate $1,000
Heitkamp, Heidi (D-ND) Senate $1,000
Herrera Beutler, Jaime (R-WA) House $1,000
Kind, Ron (D-WI) House $1,000
Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) Senate $1,000
Kwasman, Adam Charles (R-AZ) House $1,000
Leahy, Patrick (D-VT) Senate $1,000
Lee, Mike (R-UT) Senate $1,000
Long, Billy (R-MO) House $1,000
Massie, Thomas (R-KY) House $1,000
Matheson, Jim (D-UT) House $1,000
McCain, John (R-AZ) Senate $1,000
McHenry, Patrick (R-NC) House $1,000
Michaud, Mike (D-ME) House $1,000
Mikulski, Barbara A (D-MD) Senate $1,000
Miller, George (D-CA) House $1,000
Mulvaney, Mick (R-SC) House $1,000
Pearce, Steve (R-NM) House $1,000
Rangel, Charles B (D-NY) House $1,000
Sasse, Ben (R-NE) Senate $1,000
Scott, David (D-GA) House $1,000
Sestak, Joe (D-PA) Senate $1,000
Slaughter, Louise M (D-NY) House $1,000
Stivers, Steve (R-OH) House $1,000
Sullivan, Dan (R-AK) Senate $1,000
Swalwell, Eric (D-CA) House $1,000
Vela, Filemon (D-TX) House $1,000
Waxman, Henry (D-CA) House $1,000
Wenstrup, Brad (R-OH) House $1,000
Wolf, Frank (R-VA) House $1,000
Yoho, Ted (R-FL) House $1,000
Young, C W Bill (R-FL) House $1,000
Cassidy, Bill (R-LA) House $750
Hayworth, Nan (R-NY) House $750
Moll, Thomas (R-AR) House $750
Winslow, Dan (R-MA) Senate $750
Romney, Mitt (R) Pres $707
Grimes, Alison (D-KY) Senate $700
Chapman, John (R-MA) House $500
Gardner, Cory (R-CO) House $500
Grisham, Michelle Lujan (D-NM) House $500
Lonegan, Steve (R-NJ) House $500
Mercer, Gabriela Saucedo (R-AZ) House $500
Patrick, Suzanne (D-VA) House $500
Perdue, David (R-GA) Senate $500
Tillis, Thom (R-NC) Senate $500
Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI) Senate $500
Antenori, Frank (R-AZ) House $400
Babin, Brian (R-TX) House $250
Bell, Jeff (R-NJ) Senate $250
Bevin, Matt (R-KY) Senate $250
Braley, Bruce (D-IA) House $250
Cheney, Liz (R-WY) Senate $250
Gowdy, Trey (R-SC) House $250
Tobin, Andy (R-AZ) House $250
Weiland, Rick (D-SD) Senate $250
Whitaker, Matt (R-IA) Senate $250
Romanoff, Andrew (D-CO) House $200

[url=https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000175&cycle=2014]Source[

Lets have a good look at 2012....

Lets looks at top recipients....
2012
Romney, Mitt O dear how embarrassing for the republicans......O wait look whos is next.....Obama, Barack


Thinking of doing the same with the other defense contractors later this week.

a reply to: crazyewok

Seems like they've donated to pretty much the entire House!

But for the stock prices, it's not as simple as drawing a line with a war and equating that to stock increases - in fact, you can see quite some volatility in those prices at the same time as well as ignoring the wider macroeconomic situation.

Raytheon also do plenty of things which are not connected to blowing people up as well and have interests globally, not just in the US.

For example, in early 2011 they got some good gigs in Asia which helped their bottom line. I imagine that had far more to do with any stock increases than a few bombs being dropped on Libya - in fact, the US participation in Libya wasn't all that large, mostly limited to supporting UK/France efforts than actually taking the lead.

Also, when it comes to expending ordnance, it is from existing stock - they don't have Amazon Prime on their missile deliveries yet so they can't place an order one day and have the missile the next. Yes, they will have to replace that stock they used, but that can be done over time.

a reply to: stumason

I agree there is a lot of volatility especially after the recession there no way to account accurately. The lines are just there to show major US combat operations.

But there was a very marked spike just before the Afghanistan war and Iraq war.

Still its more the Politicians on there pay books that's the interesting thing.

a reply to: crazyewok

Not seeing any spikes at all for those times. The share price increased over several years after the Iraq war started, but that followed a period of decline prior to Iraq, even with Afghanistan in full swing.

I think you have more of a story with their payments to politicians rather than their stock price, the list is long!

originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: crazyewok

Not seeing any spikes at all for those times. The share price increased over several years after the Iraq war started, but that followed a period of decline prior to Iraq, even with Afghanistan in full swing.

I think you have more of a story with their payments to politicians rather than their stock price, the list is long!

You may be right.

Still I thought I would publish the raw Data.


And to be honest like you the names seem to tell the more important story.

a reply to: crazyewok

Congress passed a measure to restrict their own activities about a month after this book came out and then Obama quietly nullified it shortly thereafter.

Throw Them All Out: How Politicians and Their Friends Get Rich Off Insider Stock Tips, Land Deals, and Cronyism That Would Send the Rest of Us to Prison

Amazon Exclusive: A Q&A with Author Peter Schweizer

Q:When did you realize that so many insider trading and sweetheart land deals were going on?

A: When I first discovered that members of Congress are exempt from insider trading laws, I didn’t believe it. Then, when I started to look at their stock trades and compare them with what they were doing in office, I was stunned.

Q: What do you mean by the "Permanent Political Class"?

A: I think politics in Washington has become a business opportunity. Republicans and Democrats are not so different as you think. They work together to enrich themselves. They have designed the system to work so that they can make lots of money doing things that would get the rest of us sent to jail.

Q: What do you mean by "honest graft"?

A: When people think of politicians making money in Washington, they think of bribery and other illegal activities. That’s small potatoes. The real money is made by doing stuff that’s legal, including insider trading on the stock market and land deals.

Q: Politicians are exempt from insider trading laws? You’re kidding, right?

A: No. They write the rules, and guess what: the rules that apply to us don’t apply to them. By the way, they are also exempt from whistleblower laws. If you see your boss committing a financial crime, you can report them and you will be protected. You can’t be fired. But if your boss is a congressman? You’re toast. You are not protected.

Q: What’s wrong with politicians who trade stock? Don’t we want them involved in the economy?

A: Yes, but they are doing exactly what corporate insiders get sent to jail for doing. It’s a double standard and it’s unfair. If Martha Stewart had been in the U.S. Senate, she would have been protected.

I wonder why I couldn't find Bernie Sanders on your list???

D.P. sorry

S & F

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
I wonder why I couldn't find Bernie Sanders on your list???

That one feather in his cap I guess.

In fact his contributors:

Google Inc $14,652
Quilceda Creek Vintners $10,000
University of California $9,000
National Education Assn $6,392
University of Illinois $5,760
Federal Coal Co $5,500
Santa Monica Art Studios $5,400
Microsoft Corp $5,080
Dartmouth College $4,242
Pacific Gourmet $4,000
Coldwell Banker Real Estate $4,000
Merrill Lynch $3,700
Boeing Co $3,450
Amazon.com $3,317
Columbia University $3,293
United Parcel Service $3,202
US Postal Service $3,179
Promed Capital $3,000
Clinical Radiologists SC $3,000
Apple Inc

Seems pretty benign really.

a reply to: greencmp

Pretty sick isnt it?

A free market not a free market if politicians get to play by different rules and cheat the system?