The Cold War was a Fraud

“We do know this, however. A clique of American financiers not only helped establish Communism in Russia, but has striven mightily ever since to keep it alive. Ever since 1918 this clique has been engaged in transferring money and, probably more important, technical information, to the Soviet Union. This is made abundantly clear in the three volume history Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development by scholar Antony Sutton of Stanford University's Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace. Using, for the most part, official State Department documents, Sutton shows conclusively that virtually everything the Soviets possess has been acquired from the West. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that the U.S.S.R. was made in the U.S.A.”

- from NDCC, Gary Allen / Larry Abraham, 1971

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I bring your attention to a really interesting book, and some related articles. The book was written in 1971, (surprisingly) to the acclaim of some people in ‘high places’ -

“I wish that every citizen of every country in the free world and every slave behind the Iron Curtain might read this book.”

Ezra Taft Benson — Former Secretary of Agriculture

“NDCC is an admirable job of amassing information to prove that communism is socialism and socialism (a plot to enslave the world) is not a movement of the downtrodden but a scheme supported and directed by the wealthiest of people."

"If enough Americans read and act upon NDCC, they really can save the Republic from the conspirators — whose plans for the destruction of our country are galloping fast toward completion.”

Dan Smoot — Former Assistant to J. Edgar Hoover

“Now that NDCC is available, I no longer need to answer "no" to the question which is often put to me, namely: "Mr. Dodd, is there a book which I can read so I can know what you know?" No higher praise is possible for this book.”

- Norman Dodd — Chief Investigator Reece Committee to Investigate Foundations

“This book concerns the way in which our nation and other nations are actually governed. As Benjamin Disaeli said, this is not the way in which most people think nations are governed. The whole subject of the Insiders who so largely control our political and economic lives is a fascinating mystery. For the reader who is intelligent but uninitiated in the literature of superpolitics, I can think of no better introduction to the field than NDCC.”

- Dr. Medford Evans — Former Chief of Security for the Atom Bomb Project

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NDCC refers to the book - NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY, by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham, 1971 -Link to the entire book

Excerpt: "Indicative of this was a strange event which occurred in October of 1964. David Rockefeller, president of the Chase Manhattan Bank and chairman of the board of the Council on Foreign Relations, took a vacation in the Soviet Union. This is a peculiar place for the world's greatest "imperialist" to take his vacation since much of Communist propaganda deals with taking all of David's wealth away from him and distributing it to "the people." A few days after Rockefeller ended his "vacation" in the Kremlin, Nikita Khrushchev was recalled from a vacation at a Black Sea resort to learn that he had been fired. How strange! As far as the world knew, Khrushchev was the absolute dictator of the Soviet government and, more important, head of the Communist Party which runs the USSR. Who has the power to fire the man who was supposedly the absolute dictator? Did David Rockefeller journey to the Soviet Union to fire an employee? Obviously the position of premier in the Soviet Union is a figurehead with the true power residing elsewhere. Perhaps in New York.” - from NDCC

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I have not read the entire book yet.. please share your thoughts.

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Also found some related articles:

There is the case of Major George Jordan -

"George Racey Jordan (1898-1966) was an American military officer, .. He first gained nationwide attention in December 1949 when he testified to the United States Congress about wartime Lend-Lease deliveries to the Soviet Union, in the process implicating Harry Hopkins and other high officials in the transfer of nuclear and other secrets to the USSR."

"Jordan testified (along with General Leslie Groves, head of the Manhattan Project) to the House Un-American Activities Committee about the transfers."

en.wikipedia.org...


Jordan's supposed diaries: www.whale.to...

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"Today, we are burdened by a $5 trillion national debt. Coincidentally, that is the sum we have spent on "national defense" since 1945. The World Order billionaires launched a complex, long-term plan to demonize Soviet Russia. Overnight, they would undergo a sea change, from the darlings of the American political Establishment to a dangerous and possibly overwhelming enemy. ln my researches of more than fifty years, I finally located the smoking gun which exposed this conspiracy, a little known article in the August 1977 issue of American Heritage magazine, "Who Started the Cold War?" by historian Charles L. Mee Jr., editor of Horizon magazine, and author of one of the first cold war books, Meeting at Potsdam."

The $5 Trillion Cold War Hoax
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I was exposed to this from this website with more links.

Yep!

Just like the 'War on Terror'



where's the real 'Axis of Evil' now?

a reply to: nOraKat

Rockerfeller and rothschild control the money so you don't need to look much further when it comes to world politics and supposed cold wars.

However I hope not and don't think that Putin is their 'man' and he actually opposes their greed and disgusting policies.

I can't go along with the idea that the Russians are not scientists and everything comes from the USA with USSR stamped over the top though. There is a huge wealth of culture and science which includes incredibly clever Russian people working though out medicine, astronomy science etc etc.

I think its more about who is trying to manipulate the world under cover through their vast wealth and the receipt because they choose not to get themselves elected personally so they get away (until now) with things like the cold war which made people nervous but immensely helped their arms businesses.

Unfortunately for them they have bled countries dry by their corrupt banking systems so I hope the masses destroy their ambitions and wealth steadily.

a reply to: Shiloh7

There was supposedly the case of Major George Jordan -

"George Racey Jordan (1898-1966) was an American military officer, .. He first gained nationwide attention in December 1949 when he testified to the United States Congress about wartime Lend-Lease deliveries to the Soviet Union, in the process implicating Harry Hopkins and other high officials in the transfer of nuclear and other secrets to the USSR."

"Jordan testified (along with General Leslie Groves, head of the Manhattan Project) to the House Un-American Activities Committee about the transfers."

en.wikipedia.org...

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Jordan's supposed diaries: www.whale.to...

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Stalin was supposedly given a nuclear device in 1943.. yup sounds pretty crazy.

a reply to: nOraKat

Right, but surely that is simply 'spy world' level where secrets get stolen and sold between firms and countries etc.
I see a difference between that and the world of major financial manipulation whereby you can get a Russian President like Khrushchev removed overnight. Thee bankers back both sides during a war and leave countries after war in tremendous debt to them. Its their power that needs curbing right away because of the influence they can maintain.

Interesting, reminds me of the conspiracy theory that Germany sent Lenin as a spy to Russia to start the Bolshevik revolution. Agent of the west, maybe.

Remember how Carol Rosin said Wernher von Braun told her that the world would be controlled through phony conflicts, starting with the Russians and ending with fake aliens?

The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."..."Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons. The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.

And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

And to connect things further it was the Rockefellers who promoted belief in aliens, wouldn't you know it... methinks they are manipulating the good old "fabled enemy tactic" against the world...

a reply to: Shiloh7

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: nOraKat

Right, but surely that is simply 'spy world' level where secrets get stolen and sold between firms and countries etc.

But how can you say it was a case of spies stealing secrets, when the technology was sent to them by Harry Hopkins (en.wikipedia.org...)?

It was given to them by the US Gov't.

article: en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: nOraKat

Fantastic thread and resource OP. It's great that we're finding full text of books like this, available for free online. Years ago that seemed pretty rare.

Fascinating topic and it makes perfect sense - manipulate the public, propaganda + fear-driven campaigns that help the arms manufacturers and other organizations secure enormous government contracts to make weapons. Sounds about right...

a reply to: Ridhya

Lenin wasn't a German spy. He had to escape the country and then with the help of Germans, he returned to continue fight with his opponents. It was in German's best interest for Russia to stop fighting against them, so they could move their eastern troops to where it was necessary. Doubt he was a German agent.

I always believed that the cold war represented the fight over two different powers that are trying to beat each other and gain more control. But, I mean, it could be possibly that they wanted for us to think that there are actually two choices instead of just one that's pulling all the strings...

How does any of that make the cold war a hoax?

Do you think it mattered to the soldiers on either site?

What I mean is; think of the stand offs involving / relaying on common soldiers and their officers at ,say, the initial Cuba blockade in '62 or the stand off at Checkpoint Charlie in '61.


It does not matter if some shadowy elite was a'okay with the USSR if the man with the finger on the trigger is not in on it. The cold war was as much a state of mind for the populous of both sides as anything else, and that state of mind reached pretty far into all branches of the military.

The colds war was real, no doubt.


That, off course, does not make it any less likely that the cold war was deliberately engineered. We all know how 'they' like to have the people in a perpetual state of fear.

a reply to: DupontDeux

Uhm, it's called the cold war because there wasn't any actual physical fighting happening.

a reply to: nOraKat

This was the quote that really got me interested (also in your OP):

"...socialism (a plot to enslave the world) is not a movement of the downtrodden but a scheme supported and directed by the wealthiest of people." - Dan Smoot, former assistant to Edgar J. Hoover

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: DupontDeux

Uhm, it's called the cold war because there wasn't any actual physical fighting happening.

Could I persuade you give my post another shot? I accidentally hit the reply button before I was anywhere near ready to post. I have edited in the rest - I am not sure it will make you will agree, but at least it makes sense now, haha.

Cheers

originally posted by: DupontDeux
How does any of that make the cold war a hoax?

Do you think it mattered to the soldiers on either site?

What I mean is; think of the stand offs involving / relaying on common soldiers and their officers at ,say, the initial Cuba blockade in '62 or the stand off at Checkpoint Charlie in '61.


It does not matter if some shadowy elite was a'okay with the USSR if the man with the finger on the trigger is not in on it. The cold war was as much a state of mind for the populous of both sides as anything else, and that state of mind reached pretty far into all branches of the military.

The colds war was real, no doubt.

the desired effect was real perhaps.

originally posted by: sg1642

originally posted by: DupontDeux
How does any of that make the cold war a hoax?

Do you think it mattered to the soldiers on either site?

What I mean is; think of the stand offs involving / relaying on common soldiers and their officers at ,say, the initial Cuba blockade in '62 or the stand off at Checkpoint Charlie in '61.


It does not matter if some shadowy elite was a'okay with the USSR if the man with the finger on the trigger is not in on it. The cold war was as much a state of mind for the populous of both sides as anything else, and that state of mind reached pretty far into all branches of the military.

The colds war was real, no doubt.

the desired effect was real perhaps.

uhh! I JUST edited in a bit about that!

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: sg1642

originally posted by: DupontDeux
How does any of that make the cold war a hoax?

Do you think it mattered to the soldiers on either site?

What I mean is; think of the stand offs involving / relaying on common soldiers and their officers at ,say, the initial Cuba blockade in '62 or the stand off at Checkpoint Charlie in '61.


It does not matter if some shadowy elite was a'okay with the USSR if the man with the finger on the trigger is not in on it. The cold war was as much a state of mind for the populous of both sides as anything else, and that state of mind reached pretty far into all branches of the military.

The colds war was real, no doubt.

the desired effect was real perhaps.

uhh! I JUST edited in a bit about that!

I wasn't trying to not pick or even disagree ha ha.

a reply to: nOraKat

I live in the Northern hemisphere, when the news breaks here, Russia inside our borders, the people go like this, ok, then they say, we need NATO and the people says, why? Cause Russia is close, and people goes like, yeah? So they start with, immigrants inside our borders, AL QAIDA, ISIS everyone is here, and the people says, everyone is welcome, and the world goes, Those Swedes are f****** up, they pay half of everything they own in tax, they welcome third world immigrants, even when Hitler came into power they said, ok, but touch an animal or a tree and they will wipe out your whole nation.

a reply to: Shiloh7

Did you know that Putin is arguably the wealthiest man on the planet? Others have suggested this it isn't my claim but I hardly think he espouses the greed of any elitists.

a reply to: nOraKat

2 things I'd like to add into the discussion.

1. Jacob Schiff. He's one of the major wealthy Jewish bankers who funded the Bolsheviks "revolution" in Russia. He also funded Japan's short war against Russia, paying $10 million at the time (which is an outrageous sum when adjusted for inflation).

2. The Cold War was not a fraud or a sham. People in the West don't talk about what really happened in the Cold War, so I'll briefly summarize it.

Most of the Cold War involved the colonies of "Colored people" revolting against their Imperial masters. Black & brown people in Africa fought to push out their European occupiers & their allied administraitons. Brown people in Latin America fought to push out their European & American economic rulers. Yellow & brown throughout Asia fought to push out their occupiers & colonial masters.

The communists gave the colored people the weapons & doctrine to fight. The "Capitalists" were mostly the European & Japanese Empires from the Imperialism days. Just look at the major countries involved in each regional war & it makes perfect sense.

One example is Vietnam. France conquered & controlled all of Indochina after a series of wars. Then Japan conquered Indochina from France. After Japan was pushed out during WWII, the new Western powerhouse, the US, funded France's war to reclaim their former colonies in Indochina. The Vietnamese people defeated the French in the First Indochina War, even though they lost millions of soldiers & civilians. So the US & its allies jumped in & fought the 2nd Indochina War, which we call the "Vietnam War". The whole time, the Vietnamese were actually fighting for independence.

The Cold War was "won" by the former colonies since they finally gained their independence. But the Cold War was also won by the former Imperial rulers, since capitalism & their global central banking system was eventually adopted by those same newly "independent" colonies.

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: DupontDeux

Uhm, it's called the cold war because there wasn't any actual physical fighting happening.

LOL There was no direct fighting between the wealthiest countries, but there was plenty of physical fighting happening. Look at all of the wars & revolutions that happened during the Cold War. Virtually all of the African countries regained their independence, through negotiations and outright wars. And look into the Asian countries that had to fight to get their freedom during the Cold War, too.