The Bogus "Doing It for the Money" Argument

a reply to: ConnectDots

And it's been proven repeatedly in this thread that he takes things out of context, twists them and claims they mean something else, or just distorts them. If that's not lying, what is it?

Every one of the "whistleblowers" you believe has serious credibility issues, or aren't saying what people claim they're saying. But that doesn't matter does it, because then it just becomes they're being discredited by the shadow government, who instead of killing them, or removing what they're saying, has to discredit them because anything else would prove them right.

And then we're locked into a massive circular reasoning bit of "logic".

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: Zaphod58

I'm saying that Dane Wigington is not the liar and out for the money guy that he is alleged to be.

Why do you say alleged? Nothing alleged about it. He is a proven liar, in the thread about his chemtrail plane video claim, which very obviously is nothing of the sort, and in this very thread.

I'm saying that we have whistleblowers who have told us what's going on and I believe them.

But you are known to choose to believe lies. You are doing it here. You've done it in all your threads. They are not whistleblowers and the fact that you choose to believe them does add credibility to them, or you.

I'm saying that we have a shadow government running the show on planet Earth and the general public better wake up to it.

I'm saying you can't trust the mainstream media, academia, or the elected government.

I'm saying we live in a culture of lying.

Ah, so THAT's why you do it. You're just trying to fit in.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

But what about the rest of the article:

. . . the IPCC admits in AR5: “New and improved observational aerosol datasets have emerged since AR4. A number of field experiments have taken place.”

One of the programs listed, the Intercontinental Chemical Transport Experiment, covered the Northern Hemisphere, measuring aerosols originating in Asia and crossing the Pacific into North America, then continuing across the continent, across the Atlantic Ocean and into Europe. Headed by the International Global Atmospheric Chemistry Project, these flights ran in 2004 and 2006, and reportedly numbered less than four dozen.

Another “experiment,” the European Aerosol Cloud Climate and Air Quality Interactions project, started in January 2007 and ended in December 2010 – running for a full four years, and included Africa.

In addition to the joint regional projects, several nations also perform similar field trials within their own borders. India admits to running SRM programs for over ten years.

Covered here already - the implications that these aer anything to do with "chemtrails" is pure fantasy.

The "10 years of experiments" India has supposedly been doing is apparently sourced from this blog - which has a picture of instruments apparently on a ship to measure aerosols at sea level........so it looks very much like another case of someone not knowing what they are writing about.....or deliberately misrepresenting it.

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
The "10 years of experiments" India has supposedly been doing is apparently sourced from this blog . . .

The Global Research/Geoengineering Watch article was an earlier version – dated November 5, 2013; this one is dated November 10, 2013 and has some additional information.

In this version she has an additional link:

Planetary weapons developed by the US have a long history.

radyananda.wordpress.com...

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
The "10 years of experiments" India has supposedly been doing is apparently sourced from this blog . . .

The Global Research/Geoengineering Watch article was an earlier version – dated November 5, 2013; this one is dated November 10, 2013 and has some additional information.

In this version she has an additional link:

Planetary weapons developed by the US have a long history.

radyananda.wordpress.com...

Lets see, Cloud seeding? check
HAARP? check
Patents? Check
claim that contrails can't persist? check
Pictures of contrails? check
Large list of garbage sources to appear as of the article is well sourced? check

Sorry, your new addition appears to be standard operating procedure for a typical chemmie. Nothing new, and nothing true.

But you just keep throwing sweetie. Eventually, out of sheer luck, something may stick.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
In this version she has an additional link . . .

And the additional link shows a date of February 01, 2014, originally published by GR on Nov 3, 2013.

Rady Ananda is a citizen-journalist, just like Dane Wigington is a citizen-activist. They don't have slick professional disinformation artists backing them up.

Thank God we have them along with our whistleblowers.

These people are the movers and shakers who can think for themselves and don't rely on lying authority figures to perceive what's really going on.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: ConnectDots
In this version she has an additional link . . .

And the additional link shows a date of February 01, 2014, originally published by GR on Nov 3, 2013.

Rady Ananda is a citizen-journalist, just like Dane Wigington is a citizen-activist. They don't have slick professional disinformation artists backing them up.

Thank God we have them along with our whistleblowers.

These people are the movers and shakers who can think for themselves and don't rely on lying authority figures to perceive what's really going on.

I have to say it's fascinating how you cling on to your image of Saint Dane despite all the evidence to the contrary. I just wish I was a psychologist

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Saint Dane

Hmmm.

Clever wording.

Did you come up with that yourself?

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: ConnectDots
In this version she has an additional link . . .

And the additional link shows a date of February 01, 2014, originally published by GR on Nov 3, 2013.

Rady Ananda is a citizen-journalist, just like Dane Wigington is a citizen-activist. They don't have slick professional disinformation artists backing them up.

Thank God we have them along with our whistleblowers.

These people are the movers and shakers who can think for themselves and don't rely on lying authority figures to perceive what's really going on.

so that translates to "these people are the same in that they don't fact check anything and print garbage."
nice.

Hey, if you are interested in learning all about HAARP you can take some classes at the University of Fairbanks Alaska. They now own the facility.

a reply to: ConnectDots
It's better than calling him the Great Dane, because one might think he lies like a dog.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Saint Dane

Hmmm.

Clever wording.

Did you come up with that yourself?

Nothing clever about it. That appears to be the position you've put Dane in, "he who can do no wrong - Saint Dane of Wigington"

(we'll just forget about the lies, deceit and misinformation - they're not important)

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Saint Dane

Hmmm.

Clever wording.

Did you come up with that yourself?

Here are the facts as they exist now.
you have been shown multiple times that Dane Wiggington has outright lied on his site.
you are upset at anything "mainstream" as you feel like they are being dishonest.
You have no proof of any dishonesty of mainstream information, but you just "feel" as if it's incorrect.
You seem fixated on Dane Wiggington as the sole source for all your information. (meaning, if Dane vets it, then it's true)
You refuse to discuss any factual information brought to you in any thread, in favor of ANY whistle blowers testimony.

It seems as if you might not be thinking clearly. did Dane make you part of his cult? Has he promised you things? Do you stay on his compound? Do you wear black nike's? Do you like Kool aid?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
Rady Ananda is a citizen-journalist, just like Dane Wigington is a citizen-activist. They don't have slick professional disinformation artists backing them up.

no - they have very shoddy or dishonest "research" artists backing them up.

Thank God we have them along with our whistleblowers.

These people are the movers and shakers who can think for themselves and don't rely on lying authority figures to perceive what's really going on.

They have no idea what is going on around them - only what is going on in their imaginations.