Blood Moon-Curious correlations

This is really neat, there is a correlation between tonights rising position of the Blood Moon and the rising position of the Sun at Spring equinox, as can be seen below this is the position of tonights Moon seen just below Pisces;




And below is the rising position of the Sun at Spring Equinox this year, of course the constellation that is at Sunrise on the spring equinox will be mirrored at sunset on the Autumn equinox which has just passed.



So the Blood Moon will rise pretty much due East and be best seen as it descends into the South West. Of course mirroring also takes place over periods of time with regards to the precession of the equinox, 13,000 years ago the Sun would have rose in Pisces at the Autumn equinox rather than the Spring as per today, the opposite transition from Pisces into Aquarius is that of Virgo into Leo which then marked the Spring equinox.

So if i was to attach any meaning to tonights event it would be that it reflects this mirroring over the seasons and over the ages, the Sun in Pisces was probably also correspondent to the egg that fell from Heaven in the Atagartis mythos which was red in colour, so the Blood Moon has some correspondence.

One Greek story says that Derketo was a nymph who loved a shepherd-boy; when She became pregnant by him She either killed him or threw Herself in a pool in shame, where She was changed to a fish. Another story says that Derketo was hatched from an egg that fell from heaven; it landed in the Euphrates river, where some fish nudged it to shore. There it was found by a dove, who incubated it. Later, to show Her gratitude, Derketo persuaded Zeus to put an image of the fish in the stars, which He did, creating the constellation Pisces. The daughter Derketo bore was Semiramis, (who built the Hanging Gardens), the famous Assyrian Queen of Legend, and who was worshipped in Her own right as a Goddess in nearby Charchemish.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Ha! Well spotted!

The egg from the fish:



With the lamb (Aries) behind her, or if you prefer the other version, being incubated by the dove (Cygnus, sometimes a dove) above her.



That's a nice bit of myth cracking to mark a special sky-show later tonight.

a reply to: beansidhe

Yes it's funny isn't it, the fishes egg will turn red that's for sure, tonight then relates to the birth of Semiramis in one way or another , i only noticed because i was checking the mirroring from 13,000 years ago when Pisces was at the Autumn equinox and decided whilst i was at it to see where the blood moon takes place tonight, so i was pleasantly surprised when it was the same position.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

It does seem to be her night, and I'm pleased to say that earlier on I (unknowingly) paid homage to her - my gardening guru - by moving a camellia. Not quite a gardener on her scale I will admit, but I hope my humble attempts have pleased her.
I'm so impressed by your discovery - I hope she smiles upon you for revealing her story and brings you good luck for your future!

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Well, I hate to expose my ignorance, but I have to ask:

What does any of it have to do with Mary Magdalene?

a reply to: lostgirl

Mary Magdalene holds the red egg, the symbol of Atagartis, there was the Nymphaeum of Magdala as an aspect of her cult, the tradition of the Syrian Goddess probably traces back to the cult of Nanse in Sumeria and the cult of the fish people, the sign for which was Pisces at the Autumn equinox 13,000 years ago.

The sign of the Spring equinox was Virgo and that was also the beginning of harvesting wild grain and also of counting and measuring as that was the sign of Nisaba, see Virgo Neolithic Dawn, Nisaba held the tablet of the Heavens and so any tradition of counting the ages relates to her, of course as everything is now reversed the Autumn equinox is in Virgo.

a reply to: beansidhe

Yes i'll take any movement on the fish Goddess front as a good omen...

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Thank you for the info! I had somehow missed seeing your thread on the "Nymphaeum" - am going to have a read of it now...
...I expect to find it particularly enjoyable as my birthdate is in Pisces, and I've had an interest in Mary Magdalene for a long time (well before Dan Brown, even lol)

Did you know there is a theory that she was the 'true' author of the Gospel of John?

a reply to: lostgirl

There are lots of theories but that one seems unlikely,the exaltation of Venus is in Pisces at 27 degrees which corresponds to the suns position in the constellation at around the spring equinox as seen in the OP, it's kind of a pity she wasn't around for the blood moon at exaltation.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

This is really neat, there is a correlation between tonights rising position of the Blood Moon and the rising position of the Sun at Spring equinox

There is a simple scientific explanation for this.

We are only one week after the autumn equinox. Which means the sun is currently located at almost 180 degrees from the Spring equinox point, in Pisces.

The moon just became full. Which means it must by definition stand at the opposite of the Sun, as seen from Earth. At 180 degrees from the Sun. This is why the Moon is in Pisces. Right where the Sun would be during Spring.

Finally, lunar eclipses can only happen during full moons, which means lunar eclipses will always be located at 180 degrees from the Sun (otherwise, the eclipse is physically impossible). As you already know such eclipses are caused by the Moon's orbit intersecting Earth's shadow in space, these can be rare but have nothing mysterious to them. In fact we already know that the next total lunar eclipse will be January the 31th, 2018. Additionally, there will be four occurrences of the Moon swinging by the edge of Earth's shadow (without really fully entering it): Mars the 23th, 2016; September the 16th, 2016; February the 10th, 2017; and August the 7th, 2017.

a reply to: swanne

Sure i pointed out the celestial mechanics of this mirroring but that doesn't make it any less interesting...

originally posted by: Kantzveldt

Sure i pointed out the celestial mechanics of this mirroring but that doesn't make it any less interesting...

Perhaps. I guess it depends on one's favourite point of view.

If one loves to dwell in an ancient myth and relate celestial phenomenons to it, then I most certainly agree that this eclipse was most interesting indeed.

But if we are to discuss the mythological aspect of it all, then please allow me to rectify the actual legend of the Pisces, according to those same greek mythology you have mentioned.

In this Greek myth, the monster Typhon descends upon Mount Olympus, threatening all of the gods and goddesses, who flee from their home (with a couple key exceptions). As Typhon approaches, the goddess Aphrodite and her son Eros (a.k.a. Venus and Cupid in Roman mythology) find themselves in need of escape.

The legend goes on to say how Aphrodite and Eros changed themselves into fishes so to escape into the seas. The chain that links the two fishes prevents Aphrodite and Eros from losing each other.



Notice how there are two fishes in the constellation of Pisces (Aphrodite and Eros), whereas Derketo would show up as only one (chain-less) fish.

a reply to: swanne

Yes it was a take on the mythos from the Hellenistic period but from the Babylonian perspective that second fish of Pisces is a swallow or dove, which of course is the one that incubates the egg, and was the more common symbol of the Atagartis cult.

Derketo was hatched from an egg that fell from heaven; it landed in the Euphrates river, where some fish nudged it to shore. There it was found by a dove, who incubated it.

The oldest Sumerian version for this would be as i suggested the cult of Nanse of the Southern marshlands as she was Goddess of both fishes and birds.

The same theme of solar rebirth is expressed in a somewhat different form in the adjacent constellations known as Anunitum,the Swallow and the Field. These star figures together constitute a vivid depiction of the ‘myth of the Syrian goddess’, which can be thought of as the master-myth of this season.

The myth runs as follows – two fish found an enormous egg floating in the depths of the river Euphrates, the fish guided the egg up from the watery depths of the river and rolled it onto dry land, where a dove appeared and started to brood it. In due time, the Syrian goddess herself
was born from the egg. On account of this myth, fish and birds were held to be particularly sacred to the Syrian goddess.

The star-map indicates that the setting of this myth and its participants are not, in fact, of this earth, but are to be found in the heavens. What is of pivotal importance is the identity of the ‘river Euphrates’. Apart from the earthly river, the ‘Euphrates’ can also be found on the star-map where it is closely associated with the watery outflow joined to the Swallow.

This heavenly river actually runs parallel to the course of the ecliptic and now that this fact is established, the action of the fish can be better understood – they escort the sun (the mythical egg) from its lowest point at the solstice and guide it onto its ascending path that leads towards the spring and ‘dry land’, which is represented on the star-map by the constellation of the Field. .

Babylonian Pisces

In emerging from the waters at the end of the Euphrates that corresponds to the location of the city of Nanse at Nina were the marshlands meet the Persian gulf, she was understood to emerge from the waters in the same manner that Aphrodite later was.

Our lady Nanse, a great storm, a mighty flood,
Born on the shore of the sea,
Who laughs on the foam of the sea,
Who plays on the water of the flood.

Time is pressing, my fish! Just you come to me!
Time is pressing! Just you come to me!
Nanse, the queen of the fishermen,
will be delighted with you

originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: swanne

Yes it was a take on the mythos from the Hellenistic period but from the Babylonian perspective that second fish of Pisces is a swallow or dove, which of course is the one that incubates the egg, and was the more common symbol of the Atagartis cult.

Fair point. I found some source in favour of your statement:

In another story, told by Hyginus, an egg fell from the sky into the Euphrates, was rolled onto land by fish, doves settled on it and hatched it, and Venus, known as the Syrian goddess, came forth.

My point is not exactly invalid neither - According to this page on Atargatis, it is implied that Aphrodite (actual name of Venus, and she was born from the sea, begotten by Zeus who also once took the appearance of a bird) is a later chronological figure interpretation of this Atargatis. So our two views actually meet.

Additionally, the dove connection is most intriguing - especially in the light of the Christian Faith which came so much later into existence, and which symbolizes God as a dove.

a reply to: swanne

Yes there is very important Christian symbolism involved with regards to the Dove being the sign of the Holy Spirit and the basis of the myth relating the egg to the birth of the Love Goddess from the waters, perhaps we shall soon find ourselves in Paradise...

Enki placed his daughter Nanse in charge of the shrine Sirara because it sat over the wide extent of the marsh and she had influence over the high flood of subterranean waters. Nanse was known as 'she who sets sail', and 'she who induces sexual intercourse'. She was her father's daughter.

There was another angle to this and it relates to the Blood Moon egg being in the place of incubation, that can also relate to the process of Dream incubation.

Dream incubation is a practiced technique of learning to "plant a seed" in the mind, in order for a specific dream topic to occur, either for recreation or to attempt to solve a problem.

The Goddess Nanse instructed in dream incubation as well as dream interpretation, Nanse and Dream incubation

The committee of sleep

How to incubate a Dream