IPhone 6s Battery Anomalies

originally posted by: graysquirrel
Nobody is going to believe me. But, The IPhone 6 battery picture has been changed. It is not the same one I viewed this morning before I started this thread.

You know you are right!
I cannot believe you created this thread.

a reply to: Iamnotadoctor

Should I even ask why you ignored the rest of my post before making such a remark?

originally posted by: graysquirrel
Nobody is going to believe me. But, The IPhone 6 battery picture has been changed. It is not the same one I viewed this morning before I started this thread.

Lets look at the xray. since there are ATSers claiming to be Apple battery knowledgeable, can anyone explain the liter shade circle at the top and 1/3 from the right?

What I was trying to point in the 6s battery, is the flap of material bent up on the two sides looks awfully thick and stiff. And, it appears to run all along the bottom of the battery. Also, From the xray It appears that material under the battery is not homogeneous. A portion of it, the portion under the Li ion cells but not exactly lined up with the cells, blocks a significant amount of x-rays resulting in darker and liter regions where the Li ion cells are. It should be just one shade if the Li ion cells were the only thing there. One of the said liter regions is that circle.

Ok I got ya. The lighter shade circle is actually a sticker. Its a quality control acceptance decal.

The flap and darker/lighter regions around the outside of the battery are only an artifact of the protective wrapping for the battery. You see, lithium ion batteries are HIGHLY combustible if they meet with water so they are wrapped in a waterproof material that is also shielded so that the battery does not affect the ridiculously sensitive RF components.

No conspiracy here.

a reply to: bismarcksea

I claim BS, first of all this xray is a shadow . Which means that, an added sticker is added material which the x-rays would have to go through. The result would be a dark spot not a light spot. The Light spot means there is a hole in some material someplace in the stack of materials there.

Second, All batteries including this one are direct current. This means a frequency of 0 Hz. Which means that, there is no RF coming off this battery to affect anything. No need for any RF shielding.

Third, the bent up materials on the edges look way to thick and stiff to be the ends of soft protective wrap material.

Fourth, Just where did you get your information?

The circle is in the shielding above the battery. Here's a photo of an iPhone 6 on the left and iPhone 6s on the right. You can see the circle in the upper part of the 6s.

i.imgur.com...

There is no anomaly here, the new model does include extra things, mainly the pressure sensor they now have included. Apart from that, all looks good

a reply to: nataylor

Ok, I'l buy the circle explanation. I was under the impression that the xray view was of the lower half only.

But, I still don't have a believable explanation for the extra thick and stiff bent up material on the edges of the battery.

IPhone 6s battery: d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net...


Also, in the xray view, there is thin lighter shade strip running along the entire bottom of the Li ion cell. This looks like it could be caused by something hiding under the battery but not quite alined with the battery. And, since the story of RF shielding around the battery is false, we can't blame it on that.

IPhone 6s xray: d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net...

Just wait until we start talking about the battery controller circuit board.

originally posted by: graysquirrel

Also, in the xray view, there is thin lighter shade strip running along the entire bottom of the Li ion cell...

You're going to have to figure out how to use photoshop or something similar to point out the evil things before this is over, I can't figure out what you're talking about, and I'm sure that goes for most everyone else. The conversation's going to get real confusing before the end.

Remember you're looking through layers of stuff. The "thin lighter shade strip" is probably the wrapper around the battery polymer material.

Why not just come out and say what you think is evil and secret here, instead of analyzing every bit of possible chicanery shadow by shadow?

a reply to: Bedlam

The polymer material doesn't absorb much xray. So, it will cast a negligible shadow.

I never said Apple was up to anything evil. On the contrary what they are doing is very good. They just haven't told us yet.

Going through each detail one by one with out spilling the beans will force unbiased explanations for each detail.

originally posted by: graysquirrel
a reply to: Bedlam

The polymer material doesn't absorb much xray. So, it will cast a negligible shadow.

It's full of lithium. You're not x-raying a plastic bag.

originally posted by: graysquirrel

Going through each detail one by one with out spilling the beans will force unbiased explanations for each detail.

More like you think your supposition isn't defensible on its own.

a reply to: graysquirrel
The material on the side is just the wrap that goes on the outside of the battery. You're going to see that on just about any flat battery pack:



When they're produced, the battery cells are laid out flat, with a sheet of wrapping material on top and a sheet on the bottom. The two sheets are heat sealed together, then the individual batteries are cut apart. So you're left with some extra wrap on each side of the battery.

Without you pointing out exactly what you're referring to about the stripe at the bottom, I can't be sure, but I think you're just seeing the edge of the plastic cap that covers the controller and contacts at the bottom of the pack (you can see the cap in the image of the battery you posted).

a reply to: nataylor

As I keep saying, the bent up material on the ends are much thicker and stiffer than just plastic wrap.

a reply to: graysquirrel

The exterior wrap is a plastic-coated aluminum foil.

On a very related subject, I thought I should share the following thread with the ATSers following this thread.

www.reddit.com...

originally posted by: dreamfox1
one says Polymer and the other dosent ?

Bends on top left and bottom in a triangle shape?

One is of lesser capacity?

Batteries made in Japan and not in China ???????


also Apple south Asia Thailand stamp ?????/

New battery is built upside down inside jacket.

Beats me ?????????????????????????

Werd.

Induction coil system for wireless charging? Instead of putting those in the phone, perhaps they're integral to the battery pack. I wouldn't be surprised if their competitors on the Android side used something similar if not the same battery. 6S is supposed to feature wireless charging on a pad, so perhaps that's what it is.

a reply to: pauljs75

First, I want to thank you for being the first person to contribute to this thread in a productive manner.
(I gave you a star)

The battery anomalies pointed out in this thread are consistence with wireless charging. And, I admit that it would be impossible for me to prove that is not the case. However, Although it was rumored that the 6s was going to have wireless charging, If it did have it, I would expect Apple to be promoting that feature by now.

I'm sure everyone here on ATS has seen this article.

www.phonearena.com...

originally posted by: graysquirrel
a reply to: pauljs75

First, I want to thank you for being the first person to contribute to this thread in a productive manner.
(I gave you a star)

Perhaps if you had spelled out the anomalies in your opening post better, you might get better quality responses. If you come across as vague and playing games and people seem annoyed by that, hopefully you're not too surprised at that reaction.

originally posted by: graysquirrel
I'm sure everyone here on ATS has seen this article.

www.phonearena.com...

the iPhone 6s packs a slightly smaller cell — a 1,715 mAh unit — than its predecessor, we weren't sure what to think. The drop of 95 mAh in capacity isn't big

If the 6s battery is smaller and has a smaller rating, I'm far more inclined to suspect the improvement in battery life is a result of improvements to the phone circuits or software than anything about the battery. According to the battery rating it has less available energy than it's predecessor, but this isn't a contradiction with longer battery life if newer circuits or software in the phone can use the battery more efficiently.