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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
on the contrary the point of electives is to pad the revenue of the school. it may indeed broaden the mind. and they may make some high sounding rationalization to that effect but it is an offer you cannot refuse. "nice degree plan you got there...it'd be a shame if something happened to it." try to get a degree just taking the core courses.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: greencmp
One can indulge in any education one chooses. Just don't assume we should have to be burden with that cost.
Go to a private institution and pay for it yourself. Thus freedom of choice is maintained....
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: greencmp
One can indulge in any education one chooses. Just don't assume we should have to be burden with that cost.
Go to a private institution and pay for it yourself. Thus freedom of choice is maintained....
I am only addressing the dictatorial subject/syllabus issue.
I don't believe there should be any subsidy for any service or product at all. I don't believe there should be public education. In fact, I don't believe there ought to be "education ministers" at all in the first place.
originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: Metallicus
I support her right as well, but, why should I have to take courses in Romance Literature, Art Appreciation and Sociology to get a degree in Mechanical Engineering?
originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
My BA was in philosophy. While I was enrolled my school they were shutting down departments to take out tenured teachers and save money. My department was slated to be gone. We protested that our cost to the school was teachers. And we packed out every class offered. All we did was read and talk about it. We ended up saving our professors but lost the grad program, one of few hundred in the country. The truth is our education needs programs like this. Teach people to form their own ideas. Teach people to behave ethically. Have people check what behaving ethically means. Teach people how to think logically, with reason, and analyze in everyday life.
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: DantesPeak
Yes, I am not a statist, I wan't free and open markets for all goods and services including educational and tutoring services.
Centralized public education in this country is only 40 years old but, in that time, it has managed to severely damage the literacy and, frankly, the lives and well-beings of millions of children.
Why would you support such a destructive influence on society?
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: DantesPeak
Interestingly enough, my daughter home schools her two children, ages 7 and 12. She also works a 50-60 hour workweek!
Damned if she hasn't made it work! Two kids and one 'teacher' makes for quality intensive hours. On her days off, intensive studies, on workdays, assignments. They are far ahead of the equivalent kids in the local school. Very happy, loose scheduling with plenty of breaks, very well adjusted kids.
It certainly broke my stereo-typed view of education.
Of course it's not for everybody, but it can work given the right parents and circumstance.
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: greencmp
One can indulge in any education one chooses. Just don't assume we should have to be burden with that cost.
Go to a private institution and pay for it yourself. Thus freedom of choice is maintained....
I am only addressing the dictatorial subject/syllabus issue.
I don't believe there should be any subsidy for any service or product. I don't believe there should be "education ministers". In fact, I don't believe that there ought to be public education at all in the first place.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: DantesPeak
Interestingly enough, my daughter home schools her two children, ages 7 and 12. She also works a 50-60 hour workweek!
Damned if she hasn't made it work! Two kids and one 'teacher' makes for quality intensive hours. On her days off, intensive studies, on workdays, assignments. They are far ahead of the equivalent kids in the local school. Very happy, loose scheduling with plenty of breaks, very well adjusted kids.
It certainly broke my stereo-typed view of education.
Of course it's not for everybody, but it can work given the right parents and circumstance.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: DantesPeak
Agreed. As long as the freedom of choice is available to home school I'm fine with public education being the 'norm'.
I AM assuming there isn't a personal gain in all this such as public sector union or some such. Those ilk have more harmed than helped public education from my experience...