England Sleepwalking Into Homelessness Crisis

We will care for thousands of migrants in England but will fail our own vulnerable at the drop of a hat, yes a lot of homeless people have put themselves there be it through drugs, alcohol or other, but it comes a time when we leave our own on the streets while welcoming thousands from other countries to the five star treatment, i don't like the double standards i see these days, even from native English people, if we can help refugees, we can help our own, no excuse, id hope that if i were to ever find myself homeless my fellow brethren would support me to the best of their abilities, society needs an overhaul and fast.

By Mike McCarthy, North of England Correspondent

The number of people sleeping rough has doubled over the past five years and the UK is sleepwalking into a homelessness crisis, a charity has warned.

In a special investigation, Sky News spent the night in one town where homeless men and women were found sleeping under bridges, in car parks and even in rubbish bins.

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originally posted by: LeeAndrewCox


The number of people sleeping rough has doubled over the past five years and the UK is sleepwalking into a homelessness crisis, a charity has warned.

No not sleepwalking ... Eyes wide open

This situation has been happening for years, Councils need to get their finger

out and sort out the social housing situation. There also needs to be small

affordable units for single/lone people,

Jon Sparkes, chief executive of Crisis, said: "England is sleepwalking into a homelessness crisis, with a 55% rise in rough sleeping since 2010 and a 14% rise in the past year alone.

"More and more households are struggling to pay their rent in an increasingly insecure market, while cuts to housing benefit and homelessness services have left the safety net in tatters. For anyone finding themselves in financial difficulty, the prospects are bleak."

We need to take care of our own *refugees* before others from other

countries or else we will end up in a third world situation too

a reply to: LeeAndrewCox
Our local council has vowed to house 10 immigrant families and support them. What about its residents that have paid their way and then lost everything. Where can they go, who is coming to their aid. I firmly believe the refugee crisis is being engineered and managed. It should not be a refugee problem but should be turned into an evacuation. We can assist any country in the world by coming to their aid after a natural disaster. where are these organisations like the UN.
Where are the governments vowing to send as much aid as possible.

a reply to: eletheia
What really worries me is that the refugee crisis is being managed as if Syria is not going to exist in the future. We are emptying a whole country. Is it so we can make it safe for them all to return and rebuild.
what are the long term plans for Syria, NUKES?
why are safe zones not established and serviced so the refugees don't have to risk their lives and we could process them and send them to a willing country for the interim.
what are the long term plans for these countries with no able citizens left.

a reply to: chewi

Yes, the natives seem to be taking a backseat, helping our own doesn't fit with the plans of destabilization, flooding countries with refugees and migrants falls right into the plans of the establishment, i want people to understand i am in no way blind to the situation in Syria, and i understand there are real people in need of help, but i don't understand how our government can welcome thousands of refugees and migrants to the UK with the prospect of an house, job and stability while they neglect their own citizens while also cutting funding to organizations meant to help the vulnerable of this country, no way they can sleep well at night, a serial killer would show more compassion, just knowing that i could fall victim to homelessness to makes this more worrying, i am sure the vulnerable and forgotten of this country do indeed feel betrayed and rightfully so, it's mind bottleing to say the least, where are all the Andy Murray's, the Bod Geldofs, the Bono's for British people?

originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: eletheia
What really worries me is that the refugee crisis is being managed as if Syria is not going to exist in the future. We are emptying a whole country. Is it so we can make it safe for them all to return and rebuild.
what are the long term plans for Syria, NUKES?

Apparently there are places near by that are safe? albeit not of 5* quality.

I think? NATO or charity run. But hey! if you can get to the west or UK

you will be welcome with open arms, real house (bricks and mortar) and

money to spend.

I do have visions of whole empty eastern countries, and people hanging

on by the finger tips to an overcrowded sinking UK!


After living in UK with all the advantages I don't think the immigrant/

refugee will want to return and have to rebuild ... Too much like

hard work??

why are safe zones not established and serviced so the refugees don't have to risk their lives and we could process them and send them to a willing country for the interim.

There are .... Some of them have been living in Turkey for as long as three

years! but it is not as bountiful as UK, France, Germany etc.

a reply to: LeeAndrewCox
The main point we should be making is about our local councils abandoning their DUTY OF CARE to all its citizens. they have commited a massive crime of dereliction of duty. to us

Before this prticular Migrant crisis no-one could give a rats arse about the homeless and impoverished in this country. "Get a job, Get off the drink and drugs," was the mantra. Now all we hear is, "look after our own first"....

It's all fake BS... Just a round road way to justify our own racist xenophobic standpoint to make one feel better about oneself for a little while.

But hey, keep believing we actually give a # about the homelessness and poverty in our own backyard...pathetic.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

I cannot argue there, i fully agree, i have been on the reciving end of those conversations, when you are living quite comfortably you tend to forget about others, the more you have the less you care.

a reply to: Soloprotocol
You might be describing yourself but some of us have dealt with this before any crisis. we are and have been affected all our lives and are amazes it takes something as serious as this for us to highlight homelessness. Just keep paying your mortgage and drive up the price of houses. you could even buy another and charge the local councils extortionate rents, just like our housing charities do.
why are people just opening their eyes. homeless people where dying 30 yrs ago. that was put down to mental illness. places like the salvation army hostels made money from our councils back then. now private landlords are.

originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: LeeAndrewCox
The main point we should be making is about our local councils abandoning their DUTY OF CARE to all its citizens. they have commited a massive crime of dereliction of duty. to us

The government need to hold councils to account. Things have been getting

steadily worse over the years. I remember a time when the councillers were

paid little more than their expenses, and did a better job .... Now they are

paid more than the Prime Minister! ... and things have never been as bad.


Going back to their 'duty of care to all their citizens, I know someone who

works for the council and every one is in a queue for repairs etc. BUT they

have a system (similar to a red alert,) that when queries come from certain

areas (where immigrants are living) that is to take priority

originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: Soloprotocol
You might be describing yourself

No Chance. I hear the same crap, Look after our own first" from the same people who wouldn't look the road a homeless person was on. More chance they would spit on them as they walked on by.

We need to build 5 million new homes , anything else is just pants.

a reply to: Soloprotocol
I apologise, sorry. I also agree. these people are giving sympathy to the refugees at the moment. when it impacts them they will turn and treat them with exactly the same contempt we are subject to.
some of the most productive and enterprising people I have met have been home less , not addicts. they work tirelessley to stay alive. succeeding in a very difficult environment.
could they do it?

We are already in a homeless crisis, people just don't want to know about it, no sleep walking, just good old fashioned blinkers. So much of homelessness, also, is masked behind a facade of shame and pride because of the way in which this society judges those who "have not", you are nothing if you have nothing. Very few people arrive on the streets with alcohol and drug dependency but that soon becomes a way to pass the time, or just escape from it all. Heroin use in city centres across the country is endemic largely because it is easier to get away with than alcohol. Heroin, for appearances sake, is less anti-social than alcohol use, so it is prospering.

a reply to: LeeAndrewCox

…but i don't understand how our government can welcome thousands of refugees and migrants to the UK with the prospect of an house, job and stability…

Because they'll work for a lot less? Instant slave labor workforce, something I am sure is not lost on the corporations. They see the profits made from immigrants in the US Farming Industry and want there own migrant work force.

That awful story of the truck load of refugees that suffocated sent chills up my spine, but also revealed the smuggling operations going on.

(imo) They were secretly transporting these people to work somewhere…

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a reply to: Soloprotocol


None of the people insisting we "help our own people first" (& let foreigners drown) sound like they've ever spent a second helping anyone.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: Soloprotocol


None of the people insisting we "help our own people first" (& let foreigners drown) sound like they've ever spent a second helping anyone.

That's exactly what i'm getting at. They use the "help our own first," Mantra to try and claim some moral high ground when the reality is, they never gave a rats arse about our own in the past and never will....Ever.

Anyone using this statement as an excuse to turn away migrants needs to look at themselves and ask..well, what have i done to "help our own first"?..no doubt the answer will be.. # all.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Anyone using this statement as an excuse to turn away migrants

HMMM migrants now are they , interesting . Australia welcomes " migrants " well hopefully the proposal put forth to bring in Persecuted Christians / Yazidis /Druze as first choice " migrants comes into effect . Oh wait no Muslims the crowd roars , when they can learn to leave their religious baggage behind they can get in line . You bring something positive to my country you are welcome , if not , stay in a Muslim country .

a reply to: LeeAndrewCox

We are not so much sleep walking into it as being sent into it by deliberate right wing policy's.

The idea is to reinstate the Class system to provide cheap service level workers and in Tory lingo to KILL off or otherwise dispose of the EXCESS POPULATION, by that I mean those the Tory's see as not useful to there world and national ideological stance.

One of Mr's T's stated aims in the 80's was the reinstatement of the class system (upstairs masters and downstairs SERVANTS).

They are also intent on turning our nation into a rich mans paradise by removing as much Taxation as possible for the elite so that it become's for them a defacto tax haven.

Don't ever be blinded by there speel the truth is they would and indeed with the morons whom voted for them could kill every last one of us without a guilty conscience.

We have a choice, Osbourne is trying to complicate and sabotage the renationalisation of our power and infrastructure including RAIL Corbyn in the event that he should become prime minister or that his policys should be taken up by another new socialist leader by bringing in powerful Chinese interests, in doing so he is not only doing our people and company's out of Job's but also directly snubbing our American cousin's proving that the Tory's are nothing but financial Whores out for the highest bidder selling there nation like a pimp on the corner with a few broken girls to sell.